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#27 Oct 07 2004 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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#28 Oct 07 2004 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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#29 Oct 07 2004 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
Besides the fact that bin Laden is, y'know, alive (voice analysis of audio tapes talking about current events, which is something you'd know if you're weren't an idiot)... you're saying that bin Laden and Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11? You're fu[b][/b]cking joking, right?

Speaking of which, no one writes it (or says it) as 911. It's 9/11. Not the number you call when your sister comes to rape you up the ***.

So please, save her the trouble and leave the cops alone. Just GRY.
#30 Oct 07 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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What does this mean to you? Bin Laden wasn't responsible for 911 radical Islam was, there is a distinction.


What that means to me is that you're ignorant and naieve and are proposing that we ignore one of the most dangerous persons on the earth.
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#32 Oct 07 2004 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I stopped rating him once you mentioned the sub-awful thing last week Smiley: smile
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#33 Oct 07 2004 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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He wasn't a terrorist under the conventional labels of today's standards, he was a tyrannical dictator. Nothing more, nothing less. There are dozens of people running countries all around the world that are just as bad or worse than Saddam ever was. I'm not saying he was a boyscout but I am saying he was hardly in an exclusive club.

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#34 Oct 07 2004 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
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not defending him, really, but if you want to talk about terrorism, there wasnt alot done by him.


He terrorized his own country, does that count? By the way, according to the UN's own declarations not only they, but everyone else should have gone in and taken out Saddam earlier.
#35 Oct 07 2004 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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He terrorized his own country, does that count?

Which would be fine, except it wasn't the pretense under which we went to war.

I'm all for intervening when necessary (e.g. Milosevic's ethnic cleansing), but Bush's reason for the war was that Saddam's attack against us was imminent.



#36 Oct 07 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Do you know what the word martyr means? Bin Laden is of more value to our struggle against islamic terrorists alive than dead.


I think you are confusing Bin Laden with Jesus.
#37 Oct 07 2004 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Speaking of which, no one writes it (or says it) as 911. It's 9/11. Not the number you call when your sister comes to rape you up the ***.


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#38 Oct 07 2004 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
i will answer the question.

no.

ruthless dictator? yes.
ego maniac? yes.
murderer? yes.

terrorist? no.

Saddam Hussin has never traveled beyond his own borders to attack an enemy through an act of terrorism. as far as i know. he kept an iron grip on his country through intimidation and fear, but he was not the type of person to allow any other type of power base form within his own borders. and that includes allowing a terrorist regime, or foreign power to set up camp inside iraq.

infact, iraq was probably the ONLY country in the middle east that did not harbor terrorist. was. thank you george bush for fixing that little oversight.

did hussin need to go? yes, but not this year, or even this decade. iraq has NEVER been anykind of threat to the U.S. EVER.

are americans safer now than when he was in power? ask the americans in iraq.

is america safer now that he is in jail? hell no. no matter what our initial intentions, we have made a hate machine in iraq that is pumping out terrorist faster than we can kil them. we bomb a hide out and kill 15 terrorist? so what, we probably also killed 15 civilians, and their brothers, fathers, sisters, and freinds are all running down to register as a terrorist to kill americans. we probably generated 30 more terrorist with the same attack.

sheer stupidity.

put muslim troops on the ground, and pull all non-muslim troops out. take the religion out of this conflict. end the hate machine.
#39 Oct 07 2004 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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Iraqi soldiers allegedly torture, summarily execute hundreds of Kuwaitis and set Kuwaiti oil wells ablaze

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terrorist? no.

that's coming from the usatoday site, but there are similiar quotes everywhere.

what are you going to call that? police brutality? if that's not terrorism, then you're defining terrorism as an activity that cannot be conducted by a state, in which case of course he wasnt a terrorist.

here is the fbi's definition of terrorism:
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the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives

sure as he[b][/b]ll seems to fit to me.

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iraq has NEVER been anykind of threat to the U.S. EVER.

the holocaust didnt happen, there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll, and OJ was innocent.
#40 Oct 07 2004 at 9:27 PM Rating: Default
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here is the fbi's definition of terrorism:

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the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives
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sure as hell seems to fit to me.





1) The Terrorists activies are illegal and involve the use of force.

- Not only did we use force and invade Iraq we also broke numerous international laws.


2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce

The United states was sending a message to any nuclear county or any country that supported terrorism.


3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives

I think that liberating the iraqi people and making it a focus of ur campaign qualifies ans political and social objectives.



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#41 Oct 07 2004 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
you are worse at being a sockpuppet than varus is =(
#42 Oct 07 2004 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
that's coming from the usatoday site, but there are similiar quotes everywhere.

what are you going to call that? police brutality?
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WAR.

the practice of destroying everything behind you that might be of use to your enemy is as old as war itself. a man named brown did the same thing in this country during the civil war.

terrorism would have been going into kuwait and setting the wells on fire, but never invading.

torture has been used by every tyrant on the planet involved in war. including our country...unless you still believe the spinn coming out of the white house about the prisoner abuse scandle.
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the holocaust didnt happen, there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll, and OJ was innocent
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i noticed you dodged the question.

it is a question the entire world has been waiting for since bush first started on his war path to iraq.

what threat did iraq pose to US? and where is the evidence to support it?

if you can answer that one, the world is waiting to know. half of america too.

all bush would have had to do in his first debate to completly shut kerry out was stand up on national television and tell america exactly what kind of threat iraq posed to our country, and list the evidence to support it.

thats it. if he could do that, he would win the election by a landslide.

he cant. by by.
#43 Oct 07 2004 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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So when they bombed the hell out of that little hill Laden was known to have been is it possible that his body could have been destroyed beyond recognition. It's rather naive to assume he survived. The only reason you assume he's alive is because no one can find him, or has seen him, that aren't radical terrorists.


Yeah, that and the authenticated by the CIA videotape of him after the bombings.

How naive.
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#44 Oct 07 2004 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
Pieman, you are a digusting individual. According to you the entire US government is a group of terrorists. Please your hurting my eyes, for god's sake, don't type anymore.

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Saddam Hussin has never traveled beyond his own borders to attack an enemy through an act of terrorism.


He launched scud missiles at Israel. His actions were illegal, his desire to intimidate and kill the Iraqi people, and was clearly supporting the Palestinian cause, or the Anti Isreali, not entirely the same thing. Sounds like terrorism to me. At least according to the FBI
#45 Oct 07 2004 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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is iran a continuing threat to the U.S.:

hell yes, they are sworn against us openly.

is diplomacy likely to succeed in lessining this threat:

hasnt so far in over 30 years.

does iran have WMD, adn would they use them against us at some time in teh future?:

absolutly, right after they take out israel.

replace saddam hussein and/or iraq for every instance of iran, and you have a true statement.
#46 Oct 07 2004 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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He launched scud missiles at Israel. His actions were illegal, his desire to intimidate and kill the Iraqi people, and was clearly supporting the Palestinian cause, or the Anti Isreali, not entirely the same thing. Sounds like terrorism to me.


People who disagree with you are not terrorists.

Fool.

Anyi-semitesd are not terrorists.

Fool.

People who intimidate their own people (like Bush and Cheney) are not terrorists.

Fool.
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#47 Oct 07 2004 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
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People who disagree with you are not terrorists.

Fool.

Anyi-semitesd are not terrorists.

Fool.

People who intimidate their own people (like Bush and Cheney) are not terrorists.

Fool.

your post is either a random jab that has nothing to do with the post it quotes, or stupid as fu[u][/u]ck.

I'm going to assume its a random jab, because it appears to have nothing to do with the post it quotes.

just in case it isnt:
How can you argue that shooting missiles into civilian population centers in two countries you aren't at war in conflict in order to accomplish political aims with is not terroristic?

even you have to admit there is a bit of a difference between being anti-semitic, disagreeing with someone, or using overly sensational language is different than shooting motherfu[i][/i]cking scud missiles in to a civilian population center into a country/organization you aren't in conflict with.
#48 Oct 07 2004 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Pieman, you are a digusting individual.


You've never met me, how do you know what type of person I am.
#49 Oct 07 2004 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
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your post is either a random jab that has nothing to do with the post it quotes, or stupid as ****.


You're a fuc[/b]king idot then. Not surprising, but amaazing that you'd flaunt it so blatently.

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I'm going to assume its a random jab, because it appears to have nothing to do with the post it quotes.


No you're not. You're going to respond to foolishly, making an *** out of yourself and clarifying how stunningly ingorant you are.


just in case it isnt:


See?


How can you argue that shooting missiles into civilian population centers in two countries you aren't at war in conflict in order to accomplish political aims with is not terroristic?


Because shooting missles into civillian population centers is part of war. If it's terroristic then the US firing missles into a civillian population center prior in an attempt to assasinate Hussien was just as terroristic.

Of course, neither is the case.


even you have to admit there is a bit of a difference between being anti-semitic, disagreeing with someone, or using overly sensational language is different than shooting ************* scud missiles in to a civilian population center into a country/organization you aren't in conflict with.


Iraq wasn't in conflict with Isreal? Not much for history are you?

Go read up on the first war with Iraq before you embarass yourself further and then come back and apologise you ignorant motherfuc[b][/b]ker.
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#50 Oct 07 2004 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
Holy ****, we tried to assassinate Saddam? Damn, I need to reed up on my recent history.
#51 Oct 07 2004 at 10:59 PM Rating: Good
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Iraq wasn't in conflict with Isreal? Not much for history are you?

Go read up on the first war with Iraq before you embarass yourself further and then come back and apologise you ignorant ************.

of course, you are forgetting that iraq shot scuds in to saudi arabia and israel before the ground campaign started. of course, iraq had been portraying themselves as the only arab state with the balls to stand up to israel, but I'd still say shooting scuds in to civilian targets in a country whom you have not had combat-relations or whatever the **** you want to call it, a pretty unambiguos first blood.
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Because shooting missles into civillian population centers is part of war. If it's terroristic then the US firing missles into a civillian population center prior in an attempt to assasinate Hussien was just as terroristic.

how is shooting missiles in to civilian population centers in two countries who have not taken any aggressive action against you part of war?
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Because shooting missles into civillian population centers is part of war. If it's terroristic then the US firing missles into a civillian population center prior in an attempt to assasinate Hussien was just as terroristic

do you not get why this analogy sucks ***?
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