If preemptive strikes are justified....Follow

Dropping the Atom Bombs on Japan was the means to end a war that cost too many lives around the globe. Where dropping the bombs justified? Looking at all the variables involved we where not just showing the Japanese that we had the weapons to wipe two cities of the face of the earth, but we showed the Soviet Union that we had the weapons as well. Don't you think Truman and his advisors where looking at not only the immediate end to WWII but also a way to show the Soviets that we where now the most powerful nation and thus establishing the containment of the Soviets. Again, what are all the variables that played into the use of the A-bombs.

My question to you supposed subject matter experts is this: Do you believe that the American people had the resolve to take the war to mainland Japan? Smash says that there was no planned invasion of Japan to take Tokyo. If no planned assault how where we going to end the war Smash?

Fair enough Stok, I even accept the fact the American government couldn't let Saddam control a country with that much wealth/oil.

I just hate when some of you Bush-boys don't tell the truth, call a spade a spade, we can't let those savages control that amount of power/money/oil.

Look at what is happening in Turkey right now, they are trying to get into the EU so they are trying to become a tolerant government, but islam just won't let them. Poor bastards.

Islam is peaceful my ***.

They are the most intolerant bunch of bastards on the planet bar none.

Yea Canadians, you are a bit fu[b][/b]cking thick aren't you Proof.

There is only one thing we canadians can't tolerate, and that is intolerant people. It is crucial in a multi-cultural society such as ours.



I read everything, what is your point?

So explain to me how Bush Senior had Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese support for Gulf 1, and (Muslim) ground forces from those countries actively participating in the war against Iraq.

That's why they avoided having radicals from Jordan and Palestine beheading westerners in Baghdad in 91 like they are now. Like I said, Bush got 'em on board (with advice from peeps like Brent Scowcroft) so when the war was won, the defeated armies stayed defeated.

As for why Saddam wasn't taken out then, well ask Colin Powell.

The fundamentalists didn't have any defense back then because they'd be betraying the muslim mid-east axis so they had to butt out.

Now, it's a whole different ball-game.

You really don't have a f[i][/i]ucking clue do you?

/nominate Nobby's for "Best Avatar" in the end-of-the-year Asylum Awards.

No middle eastern country had the ability to defend itself from Iraq at the time of the Kuwait invasion except Iran. Many of the weaker countries feared being the next Kuwait and so they sided with the U.S. led coallition.

Choose one and bang away with an answer.

Response to point 1: At what point do you stop calling up innocent Americans to put on a uniform and go kill the enemy?

I belive it is a reasonable assumption that the Atomic weapons saved many innocent soon to be soldiers lives.

Do we keep dropping bombs? No, sooner or later we would have hit the capital, killed the current leadership and a less hard headed person would have seen the error of Japans way of not giving up.

Response to point 2:
I belive out tests in the Nevada desert pretty much alerted anyone with the capability to detect radiation and radio waves that we had a deadly weapon on a massive scale.

Response to point 3: Our conventional weapons had not caused Germany to give up, and it was isolated and under attack from 3 directions and not a island which is harder to invade.

Response to point 4: Show me stats where a credible source claims there would have been less than 2.5 million total casualties.

Response to point 5: The day that innocent persons government took it upon themselves to not only intiate an attack on another soveriegn state, but that persons government did horrible things to civilians and prisoners all over the conqored terrortories. If the Japanese people had risen up and said they were against the policies of the Japanese government they would not have had to worry about U.S. repercussions for the war.

Didn't I tell you to stop saying idiotic things?

All nations have the right to defend themselves, even Americans.