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#1 Sep 28 2004 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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This is in reference to the "Caucasian/Black/Hispanic/Native American/Other" Check box on various federal and state administrative applications and wahtnot.

Does anyone else think that they are completly fu[b][/b]king racist and promote segregation and biasness?

I mean waht's the point? people are always like "land of equality" blah blah blah... YET we have **** like this.



While I'm on it... I saw a magazine the other day called "Black Enterprise" about black people running buisnesses and wahtnot. I was slightly offended by this. If thre was a mag called 'White Enterprise' it would be entirely racist and the NAACP would have it shut down in a minute.

So waht's with the hypocracy? Is it because we owe other races somthing because of somthing my ancestors did?
The mere Presence of the NAACP points to accepted "reverse" rasicm.
If people insist on being treated equally, why are they keeping themselves segregated like this?
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#2 Sep 28 2004 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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The 'race' box is there in an attempt to help the government keep track of who's getting what aid, who's applying for what job, etc... it's a statistics game. The governmant has to abide by the whole 'affirmative action' scenario(another debate in itself) and the politicians have to show that they're doing well for their constituents at election time.

Is it racist? Yeah, a little.
#3 Sep 28 2004 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
Leave it blank, or write in something!
#4 Sep 28 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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This is in reference to blah blah blah hate black people, blah blah blah my dad said if I cut up any more sheets he'll let my sister marry outside the family, blah blah blah can't we do something about all these minorities around here??



I suggest that you have your complete family history wiped out, obtain the hatred of the majority of the economic ruling class of your locale for your appearance, and try to deal with the whole 'my grandaddy owned your grandaddy thing for a while and get back to us on the fairness of it all.


Who told you life was gonna be fair, anyway?

National Association for the Advancement of Colored Persons. Says nothing equality in the title. It's about racial advancement. This is a free country and it's allowed here, much like the KKK. However the NAACP is looked upon much more kindly than the KKK because they offer scholarships and try to right wrongs, rather than burning crosses and lynching people.


Sheesh. I'm a hick and I know that much.
#5 Sep 28 2004 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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While I'm on it... I saw a magazine the other day called "Black Enterprise" about black people running buisnesses and wahtnot. I was slightly offended by this. If thre was a mag called 'White Enterprise' it would be entirely racist and the NAACP would have it shut down in a minute.


shut up, black people are much more discriminated against than white people, a white person owning a business is not unusual, unlike a black person running a business, the white people don't need their own magazine
#6 Sep 28 2004 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
I find it funny that I have to check that "Caucasion" box all the damn time and I don't even have a clue as to what "Caucasion" means... but I guess that I am one.
#7 Sep 28 2004 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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The race/gender box acts as an indicator. The government can use it to tell if a certain area is biased to a certain race/gender. They can then investigate to determine if any sort of action needs to be taken. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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#8 Sep 28 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
I write in Celtic. So should you, Kelvy.
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    #10 Sep 28 2004 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
    I find it funny that I have to check that "Caucasion" box all the damn time and I don't even have a clue as to what "Caucasion" means... but I guess that I am one.
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    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Caucasian%20race
    #11 Sep 28 2004 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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    never said i didn't Know, just wanted others opinions on it.
    (TS.you're not sore about that Geosyncronous comment are you?)



    the issue is.. at waht point will people be happy enough with themselves NOT to voluntarly include themselves in a miniroty?

    It's like they are riding both sides of the fence. They say that are wnt to be equal, yet continue to single themselves out.

    I am not blind to the reality that most people ARE ethnically biased, whether conciously or not.. so "precautions" must be made by the ones discriminated against.. but it seems that while they get upset about being segregated, they Keep themselves segregated by accepting these "special" treaments and privledges.

    Just look at the "No Child Left Behind" Act.
    Does it not simply say that "NO African American child can be disciplined".

    It's all quite a double edged sword. In schools we ARE taught that it matters waht race you are. GRANTED that in reality it DOEs matter because of our nature, BUT shouldn't we shy away from these teaching is we want to get Beyond all of this and truly become integrated??
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    #12 Sep 28 2004 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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    I am black Dutch-American. I am my own special race.

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    #13 Sep 28 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
    DutchChocolate wrote:
    I am black Dutch-American. I am my own special race.


    Yeah, an Afri-kaan-Man.
    #14 Sep 28 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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    Why aren't you parading to get your Very own check box?

    get active!!! like all of my caucasus mountain dwelling ancestors did. ^~
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    #15 Sep 28 2004 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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    Kelvyquayo the Hand wrote:
    This is in reference to the "Caucasian/Black/Hispanic/Native American/Other" Check box on various federal and state administrative applications and wahtnot.

    Does anyone else think that they are completly fu[b][/b]king racist and promote segregation and biasness?

    I mean waht's the point? people are always like "land of equality" blah blah blah... YET we have **** like this.



    While I'm on it... I saw a magazine the other day called "Black Enterprise" about black people running buisnesses and wahtnot. I was slightly offended by this. If thre was a mag called 'White Enterprise' it would be entirely racist and the NAACP would have it shut down in a minute.

    So waht's with the hypocracy? Is it because we owe other races somthing because of somthing my ancestors did?
    The mere Presence of the NAACP points to accepted "reverse" rasicm.
    If people insist on being treated equally, why are they keeping themselves segregated like this?


    No offense meant Kelvy, but, you live in the land of hypocracy. Have you ever taken public transportation in MD? It is considered ok for those who are darker skinned than I to call me cracker and whitebread. But we all know what would happen if the white guy used a slur in return..... All you can is ignore it and do your best not to add to the problem.
    #16 Sep 28 2004 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
    (TS.you're not sore about that Geosyncronous comment are you?)


    I can't think of a single time I've been sore about something said in this place.


    You people gotta try harder.
    #17 Sep 28 2004 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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    The Big question is:

    Do white people have a right to use the word "Nig[b][/b]ger".

    and if No, waht are your reasoning behind black people having the privledge to use it?

    ..and the ancestor argument doesn't work. This is modern day.

    Were not Indians, Spanish, and all other poor people in days of yore called the same thing?? black people simply adopted it to themselves and it stuck... because they held onto it.

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    you live in the land of hypocracy

    all too true indeed.
    But remember, I'm an idealist..(wehn not an anarchist)
    ^^

    I feel like listening to some Rage.




    (BTW- this is all out of curiousity... I personally don't use the word out of repect for peoples ancestors.. but that's just me)
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    #18 Sep 28 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
    Kelvy,

    We've been through this.

    Celts aren't caucasian.
    #19 Sep 28 2004 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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    i know, that caucasous mountain dwelling bit was sarcasm.


    Reallly WE should be racist against Italians for waht the Romans did to us.
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    #20 Sep 28 2004 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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    Totem wrote:
    I am black Dutch-American. I am my own special race.

    Totem


    You Filthy Dutch man.


    Side note- A lot of the time on hiring forms for the government they want you to check the Race Box because of affirmative action. They are looking to hire minorities and such.

    I know if you are applying for Government of Canada they dont have a box but they ask in your cover letter to mention it if you are aboriginal or a minority because they want to have more in the system.
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    #21 Sep 28 2004 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
    Do white people have a right to use the word "******".

    Yup. Just like people have the right to be offended by usage of it. Say it all you like, but be prepared to defend your position, and sometimes your person.

    #22 Sep 28 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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    Reallly WE should be racist against Italians for waht the Romans did to us.


    Or against the Caucasians for what the Germans did to us.
    #23 Sep 28 2004 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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    come to think of it, I am.


    I'll say this much, I trust a Black man more than a White man.
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    #24 Sep 28 2004 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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    I'll say this much, I trust a Black man more than a White man.


    Yep.
    #25 Sep 28 2004 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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    Kelvyquayo the Hand wrote:
    come to think of it, I am.


    I'll say this much, I trust a Black man more than a White man.
    I'll take them both over a mexican.
    #26 Sep 28 2004 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
    You TRUST people?

    I don't really trust anyone. I've got a good clue what a nasty focker I am deep down inside. I don't dare to openly examine that seething pit of anger and lust in between my ears lest I never manage to get back out. I'm convinced that there are at least three demons who'd love to grab the steering wheel for a while. And I'm the nicest person I know. Considering that I don't trust myself, how could I trust anyone else?

    I go through the motions of trust all the time. I've got money in 401k. I keep my regular spending cash in the bank. I have my personal information availabe in an untold number of ways. But I don't really trust. It's just not my nature.

    I expect to get screwed over by everyone all the time. Life is full of pleasant surprises for me when I don't. I'm always hedging my bets and covering my *** in ways most people would laugh at. Hell, even all my work files are daily compressed and password protected. In this place, where people can't even remember their OWN password, much less get mine.

    I've got emails that are 4 years old (as long as I've had email in this place) and copies stashed on CD at home.


    It's immensely silly. I know it. But it doesn't change the truth of the matter.....

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