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#1 Sep 22 2004 at 8:31 PM Rating: Good
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Dont get me wrong in this thread please. I am not trying to discriminate anyone here. I would just like to ask a question.

Is "Jewish" a Race or a Religion?

I know many people (Including Jews) that say that its a race, and many that say that its a religion. So I cannot decide for myself. I would like to hear what you guyses opinions are on this matter. I have nothing wrong with Jews, and know some people that are Jewish.

But I can't have my statement on this matter without having a correct conclusion. That is why I need your help. What do you think it is? Race, or Religion?

May I add, Please try not to flame me or anyone one who decides to post their opinions about this. I am not trying to start any flames, I just wanto know.
#2 Sep 22 2004 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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If I were you, I'd delete this thread while you still can. The Five Jew Bankers will smite you!

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#3 Sep 22 2004 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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Both.


#4 Sep 22 2004 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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Whats wrong with this thread? Really? Its just a simple question. If you guys dont make a big deal outta it and answer the godamn question than its not a problem.

But I might end up deleting if it gets too outta hand.
#5 Sep 22 2004 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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Judaism is strictly a religion. It is not a race.

There are Jews of many different races. It it were a race, all Jews would be of the same race.

#6 Sep 22 2004 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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While not Jewish myself, I can tell you that Jewish is indeed both an ethnicity and a religion.

By Talmudic Law, if your mother was a Jew, you're an ethnic Jew.

If you follow Judaism, you're Jewish by religion. Unless you're uncircumsised. Then you're a godless gentile.

Then I suppose there's the issue of whether or not you consider yourself Jewish.

If any scholars out there could answer this question, I'd be grateful.
If you are already 'cut' aand decide to conert to Judaism, what do they do to your ****? I can't afford to lose much more.
#7 Sep 22 2004 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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Thank you for being first to answer. And I see what you are saying, makes alot of sence actually. Good way to prove people that say its a race wrong.
#8 Sep 22 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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Be careful how you word your question.

The terms "Ethnic Group" and "Race" have different meanings.

I think most people agree that there is NO Jewish race, but there IS a Jewish ethnicity.

Do some googling, there are smarter people about this subject than anyone on this message board.




Edited, Wed Sep 22 21:51:55 2004 by trickybeck
#9 Sep 22 2004 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Whats wrong with this thread? Really? Its just a simple question. If you guys dont make a big deal outta it and answer the godamn question than its not a problem.
I think I'll start including harmless smileys or [sarcasm] tags in my posts. Maybe that will help you realize that I'm just fu[/i]cking kidding!

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[i]Edited, Wed Sep 22 22:01:37 2004 by TwiztidSamurai
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#10 Sep 22 2004 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
Jewishniss ( please forgive me I can't think of the politically correct term right now) is a religion. You may think of yourself as a race but that is a religious view on it so it would be religion.
#11 Sep 23 2004 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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You may think of yourself as a race but that is a religious view on it so it would be religion
It's already been established that "race" would be better expressed as "ethnicity".

A quality assigned to a specific group of people historically connected by a common national origin or language. Ethnic classification is used for identification rather than differentiation

Of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background <ethnic minorities> <ethnic enclaves>

Most Jews are "genetic" Jews (for lack of a better term) in that they didn't convert from some Gentile faith, they have a bloodline tracing back to the Biblical nation of Israel and it's all Hebrew. Likewise, there is a shared language between them and shared culture, beyond going to Temple and not eating pork. It's no more improper for them to use Jewish as an ethnic term than it is for me to call myself Polish despite the generations that have passed since my folks came off the boat.

Edited, Thu Sep 23 01:10:39 2004 by Jophiel
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#12 Sep 27 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Default
jew is a race that pretends it is a faith
hide behind god when they worship the devil and calfs and cows like they did when mosus saved them they keep stealing out the store i work at and i am sick of it they come in with babies and steal things then go and return them for money to buy more things and my boss is going to fire me cause if it i told him but he is a jew and says im the one doing it every where i turn they our the bosses they are evil and they control the us i dont hate them but they need to just live and stop trying to take over the world

Edited, Mon Sep 27 11:29:46 2004 by magiddjinn
#14REDACTED, Posted: Sep 27 2004 at 10:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dont wtf you know its true the jews are evil
#15 Sep 27 2004 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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There is only One Race.


Everything else is culture.... including Religion.
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#16REDACTED, Posted: Sep 27 2004 at 10:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok yeah you right about that but the jews are still evil
#17 Sep 27 2004 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Race is a tricky and outdated term. To say someone is of a certain "race" would be fine if you were in the 19th to mid 20th century. There is not technically enough clear cut variation in the species to have "races" of humans.

However if you are looking at race as a population of people that recognized by common history, culture, lineage etc then they still wouldnt be a "race" mainly because once again you have a problem that would be like saying all Christians are the same "race".

With Christians you have Catholics, Protestants, blacks, asians, whites, hell even Inuit (eskimo for you backward muthas). They are all Christians but have different ideas what it is, different lineages, different cultures and various different locations around the world.

Same thing with practioners of Judaism, you have white, black, arabic, orthodox, etc.

Both are religions.

Edited, Mon Sep 27 11:43:22 2004 by bhodisattva
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#18 Sep 27 2004 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess the "real" Judaic people would be of the Hebrew or Semetic "Race".


I think that It may be proper at this point to define people racially by their Language and it's origins.


Such as "Celtic" people are Really defined by the Languages they speak or spoke...... not hair or skin color.. or Religions....
Do we call all Catholics "Romans"?

It's all a matter of perspective.
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#19REDACTED, Posted: Sep 27 2004 at 10:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) we are pass that we are on how evil the jews are
#22REDACTED, Posted: Sep 27 2004 at 10:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) at what
#23 Sep 27 2004 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Kelvy wrote:
Do we call all Catholics "Romans"?


Well you have the Roman and Greek Catholic Church. They split around 1054 CE or some such date.

Any catholic that goes by the Pope is a Roman Catholic, while Greek Orthodox~y includes Ukranian, Russian etc.

The Pope and his crew have hung out in Rome for awhile now which is why there portion of the faith is called Roman Catholic or RC for short.
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#24 Sep 27 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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In the sake that you are seriously as Retarded as you sound Magi,

What is the difference? All men are inherently Evil. In which case you could call those Biblical Jews reflective of the entire Race of Mankind.

"whether jew or gentile I rentile percentile.."

"so my eyes stay red as I chase crazy bald heads, Word Up"
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#25 Sep 27 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
Let the good times TROLL!!!!

Wooo-hoooooo!!!!!


Let's nickname Magi - Jewcifer.

#26 Sep 27 2004 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
Jewish pretains to the jewish race
Judahism pretains to the jewish religion

And you stupid F* jews can be some very nice people and certinaly not evil maybe crazy neo ***** like you should be locked up in a mental institution. Because thats not what the good lord wants us to be doin (being a christian) i feel i need to clarify some things to you not in a religious manor

1.) there are some sick people out there
2.) in my opinion the jews ive met have a strong faimly bond and are nice people
3.)most americans about 85% dont want to kill you they just want to live there own lives and die happy ok

Good day to you magiddjinn
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