PieMan wrote:
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You have *zero* rights to freedom of speech once you come on my property.
Thats the thing. Were NOT on your property, were on our own time on public property. What RIGHTS do you have that says you can dictate to us what we do on our own time.
Huh!? At what point did a parking lot, presumably owned/leased/whatever by the owner of the company (aka: "the boss") become public property? While the details are a bit sketchy, I would assume that if her car had been parked on a public street a block away, the boss would have never noticed the sticker or had reason to be upset about it. The whole point was that she was that by parking her car with that bumper sticker on his property, she was in essence putting up a sign on his property. He has every right to ask that she remove it if he doesn't like it. When she refused, he then has every right to fire her if that's the only way he can get the offensive thing off his property.
Can I put signs up on your front yard saying "I'm a member of the KKK"? Or do you have a right not to have opinions you don't believe in expressed on your property? I just find it amusing that you make such a huge distinction between your rights and the rights of someone else.
And Joph:
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So making a pass at your employee and firing her if she refuses you is okay because sexual harassment is just you being a jackass and no one should be able to take that away from you?
Totally different situations. In the same way that the boss has a right to his own property, so do his employees. In this case, the property is the employees body/privacy. The boss has no right to infringe on that. So making an unwanted pass and then using that to fire someone is completely backwards. In exactly the same way that if the boss had insisted that all employees *must* put pro-Bush stickers on their cars or get fired would also be wrong.
She has a right not to have him impose himself on her property (or self), and he has a right not to have her impose herself on his. In this case, by putting a sticker on her car on his property, he was imposing herself on him in a way that he didn't like.
Think about it, if she just wanted her opinion for herself, she could have stuck that sticker on the inside of the car where only people inside the car could see it, right? Somewhat by definition, a bumpersticker is meant as a message for people in the area *outside* the car. Her property is only the car itself and inside it. The message is specifically aimed at those outside the car (on his property). Thus, she's putting her speech into his property and he has a right to ask her to remove it.
Edited, Mon Sep 20 18:43:38 2004 by gbaji