Go to work Tuesday and find out that my position has been downsized do to budget issues. It seems that I was generating enough income in my department to cover my salary and benefits, but not enough to carry my adjusted share of the losses from other departments. So since I have 7 years senority I get to bump someone else, I have until next Friday to decide what I am going to do. The catch, You will need to inform them of their situation.
WTF...cover losses from other departments? Inform a peer that I am taking their job? That's ********* so I accept a job offer at another hospital on Friday . Turn in my resignation, and give them 2 weeks notice. Today I hear that they have offered my old position to someone else, but at half my salary. Now they want me to orient her, to a position that they tolds me was eliminated. The catch she can't start until I am gone.
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days, and that extra week just happens to cover the new girls starting period.
How damm convenient...I wanted to use the big FTFY, but refrained.
God how I hate health care politics, and their view of economics.
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I think the last time someone posted about getting fired, the recommended course of action was to go in and shoot up the place.
I too work in health care. The hospital I work at is tied by contract to one that is closing, so there is going to be a lot of bumping and layoffs.
While I don't think I am in any danger due to seniority being an over riding priority because of the contratct, I am on the negation team about who, what, when, where, how, and why people will have to lose their jobs.
700 people are being affected, and I feel responsible for each and every one of them. I feel your pain, just not as personal. Good luck and make the best of a bad situation.
While I don't think I am in any danger due to seniority being an over riding priority because of the contratct, I am on the negation team about who, what, when, where, how, and why people will have to lose their jobs.
700 people are being affected, and I feel responsible for each and every one of them. I feel your pain, just not as personal. Good luck and make the best of a bad situation.
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Go to work Tuesday and find out that my position has been downsized do to budget issues. It seems that I was generating enough income in my department to cover my salary and benefits, but not enough to carry my adjusted share of the losses from other departments. So since I have 7 years senority I get to bump someone else, I have until next Friday to decide what I am going to do. The catch, You will need to inform them of their situation.
WTF...cover losses from other departments? Inform a peer that I am taking their job? That's Bullsh*t, so I accept a job offer at another hospital on Friday . Turn in my resignation, and give them 2 weeks notice. Today I hear that they have offered my old position to someone else, but at half my salary. Now they want me to orient her, to a position that they tolds me was eliminated. The catch she can't start until I am gone.
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days, and that extra week just happens to cover the new girls starting period.
How damm convenient...I wanted to use the big FTFY, but refrained.
God how I hate health care politics, and their view of economics.
WTF...cover losses from other departments? Inform a peer that I am taking their job? That's Bullsh*t, so I accept a job offer at another hospital on Friday . Turn in my resignation, and give them 2 weeks notice. Today I hear that they have offered my old position to someone else, but at half my salary. Now they want me to orient her, to a position that they tolds me was eliminated. The catch she can't start until I am gone.
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days, and that extra week just happens to cover the new girls starting period.
How damm convenient...I wanted to use the big FTFY, but refrained.
God how I hate health care politics, and their view of economics.
Honestly, I say give them the finger, tell them you've already paid a legal retainer and that if they try to stiff you, it will be not only in court, but also all over the news.
From the conflicting info they've handed you concerning the position, any lawyer worth his salt could definitely nail their asses. While they *could* very well make you pay back the days, you *could* drill them deep over the bit about the position being eliminated until you resigned, after which you were asked to train someone to do the position. My guess is that they're walking on you because 90% of the time they get away with it.
I know I should fight them, but the problem with health care is that the community is so small, especially in my area that everyone iknows your business before you do. If I where to fight this battle, an obvious attempt to reduce overhead. I would be labeled as a troublemaker, and not be able to get work again in town. So the rational part of me is going to suck it up, but the Core of me says ***** em.
Orientation will be very interesting indeed.
Orientation will be very interesting indeed.
Rocking the boat is never easy. Whatever you do, just make sure you can live with it. I've had more regrets about NOT doing things in life than over things I have done.
Redyne wrote:
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days...
Originally, I was going state they can't legally do this, but upon re-reading your post, I find that they allowed you to take vacation that you had not yet accrued? All the places I've ever worked do not allow employees to take vacation until they've actually accrued the hours they would be taking off.
So essentially (if this is the case) you "borrowed" time from your employer and owe it back.
Sucks...
Ya, It was my fault. We get all our vacation at the beginning of the year, and then we actually earn it as time progresses. We have to pick vacation for a year at a time in October, so I had used mine early in the year this time round.
Varies from state to state, and situationally.
If they regularly allow people to take vacation ahead of time, they may not be able to get that back. Even if it clearly says in their handbook that they don't let people take vacation ahead.
Good example at my place of work:
We're on direct deposit. Have been for a coupla years now. If you don't have a bank account, they have a deal with some electronic pay card ripoff service. So, everyone gets electronically paid. Well, our payroll accounts have traditionally been through the same bank that I keep both my pennies in. Payday is Friday. That's clearly stated in our Employee handbooks, updated annually. But the money actually hit our accounts at 12:01AM Thursday. I thought it was just mine for a while, but recently found out it was everyone, same bank or not.
One of our senior execs moved the payroll account to a different bank without asking/informing anyone involved with payroll. His reason was valid and did not involve midnight trips out of the country or anything of that nature. But the payroll actually hit accounts at 8:00AM Friday morning, effective that week.
Well, the poo hit the fan. It would seem that I am not the only working poor in the company. A LOT of people paid their monthly bills with the assumpotion that they had a paycheck landing in the bank at the usual time. And they bounced checks.
A couple of quick phone calls by the HR manager, who also oversees payroll, revealed that the company would lose a fight over the fees if any of the employees pursued the matter. Despite what was printed in the handbook, the past behavior of the company is what would be the determining factor in whether or not the paychecks were 'late.' By paying ahead of schedule on a regular basis, the company actually made itself liable for failing to pay on the accelerated schedule.
If they regularly allow people to take vacation ahead of time, they may not be able to get that back. Even if it clearly says in their handbook that they don't let people take vacation ahead.
Good example at my place of work:
We're on direct deposit. Have been for a coupla years now. If you don't have a bank account, they have a deal with some electronic pay card ripoff service. So, everyone gets electronically paid. Well, our payroll accounts have traditionally been through the same bank that I keep both my pennies in. Payday is Friday. That's clearly stated in our Employee handbooks, updated annually. But the money actually hit our accounts at 12:01AM Thursday. I thought it was just mine for a while, but recently found out it was everyone, same bank or not.
One of our senior execs moved the payroll account to a different bank without asking/informing anyone involved with payroll. His reason was valid and did not involve midnight trips out of the country or anything of that nature. But the payroll actually hit accounts at 8:00AM Friday morning, effective that week.
Well, the poo hit the fan. It would seem that I am not the only working poor in the company. A LOT of people paid their monthly bills with the assumpotion that they had a paycheck landing in the bank at the usual time. And they bounced checks.
A couple of quick phone calls by the HR manager, who also oversees payroll, revealed that the company would lose a fight over the fees if any of the employees pursued the matter. Despite what was printed in the handbook, the past behavior of the company is what would be the determining factor in whether or not the paychecks were 'late.' By paying ahead of schedule on a regular basis, the company actually made itself liable for failing to pay on the accelerated schedule.
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Ya, It was my fault. We get all our vacation at the beginning of the year, and then we actually earn it as time progresses. We have to pick vacation for a year at a time in October, so I had used mine early in the year this time round.
This is exactly the sort of behavior that can invalidate their claim against those days.
They can not, truthfully, expect you to know that far ahead of time that you will be able to continue employment for the entire year. If you died, would they try to reclaim the money from your estate?
By forcing you to pick vacation that far ahead of time, before it's 'earned', it can be argued that they endorse and even require the taking of vacation before it is 'earned.' I'd fight that part tooth and nail.
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I've had more regrets about NOT doing things in life than over things I have done.
Isn't that the goddam truth.
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You mmay lose the green but you still get in between...........You poor,but lucky *******.
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You mmay lose the green but you still get in between...........You poor,but lucky *******.
Redyne wrote:
Go to work Tuesday and find out that my position has been downsized do to budget issues. It seems that I was generating enough income in my department to cover my salary and benefits, but not enough to carry my adjusted share of the losses from other departments. So since I have 7 years senority I get to bump someone else, I have until next Friday to decide what I am going to do. The catch, You will need to inform them of their situation.
WTF...cover losses from other departments? Inform a peer that I am taking their job? That's ********* so I accept a job offer at another hospital on Friday . Turn in my resignation, and give them 2 weeks notice. Today I hear that they have offered my old position to someone else, but at half my salary. Now they want me to orient her, to a position that they tolds me was eliminated. The catch she can't start until I am gone.
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days, and that extra week just happens to cover the new girls starting period.
How damm convenient...I wanted to use the big FTFY, but refrained.
God how I hate health care politics, and their view of economics.
WTF...cover losses from other departments? Inform a peer that I am taking their job? That's ********* so I accept a job offer at another hospital on Friday . Turn in my resignation, and give them 2 weeks notice. Today I hear that they have offered my old position to someone else, but at half my salary. Now they want me to orient her, to a position that they tolds me was eliminated. The catch she can't start until I am gone.
Then they send me a note stating that since I was leaving before the end of the year that I need to pay back 5 vacation days, and that extra week just happens to cover the new girls starting period.
How damm convenient...I wanted to use the big FTFY, but refrained.
God how I hate health care politics, and their view of economics.
Well, I have become that evil ***** that everyone talks about when you are gone. I have an old port from my Chemo that needs to come out, guess when? I still have sick days owed to me, so they get no orientation and I get my surgery on their time.
Why is it that I now have my petty revenge, but feel guiloty as hell. Oh well, anesthesia will take care of those feelings.
Thanks for the support. It helped a lot!
Why is it that I now have my petty revenge, but feel guiloty as hell. Oh well, anesthesia will take care of those feelings.
Thanks for the support. It helped a lot!
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[olive]Thank god for government.
[b][/b]You are going to find that as you move higher and higher up in the realm that you are in that the world is run by monsters. [gold]Ones that speak but don't listen, act and then wait for a pain that they don't expect to feel. [silver]When you wonder how they can really expect you to respect them after the way they treated you--with help from others--you will realize they never wanted your respect, and do not have respect for you. [white]For them, kindness is expected of others, and not of them.
[olive]Thank god for government.
I also wanted to state that I feel for you, and you are doing the absolute right thing in leaving a company that has a policy of "eating their own young." Do yourself and your new employer a favor and take some unpaid vacation time before starting your new job. This may be a slight financial hardship, but it is one well worth the sacrifice. You need to mentally switch gears and leave all the of negative baggage that your former employer gave you behind. The 1-2 weeks lag time between employers will give you a little time to enjoy the tail-end of summer and allow you to go into a new situation with a completely fresh start.
As for as getting back at your former employer I wouldn't do anything that may be comprimising; however, as an employee you are not obligated in any manner to train the other employees. This is managent's job! By the sounds of it you have an employer that is extremely out of touch with reality, to a point where employees have to cover up for management's incompetance.
All you are required to do is show up and give them the 5 days. OK...they may have you there in physical body, but you owe the employer (or your replacement) nothing in productivity. Who's going to monitor this training session? The reality is probably no one, so why should you spend any mental effort into the endeavor? Be curtious the the new employee, but let him/her know about the situation. Point this employee to where the documentation is stored, some internal procedures, who to contact on what major issues, and give a long and in depth tour of the building (a great time waster). Go out for a 1-2 hour lunches and encourage long coffee breaks. Show this new employee around the building and strike up lengthy conversations with everyone you meet. I'm sure the week will just fly by.
As for as getting back at your former employer I wouldn't do anything that may be comprimising; however, as an employee you are not obligated in any manner to train the other employees. This is managent's job! By the sounds of it you have an employer that is extremely out of touch with reality, to a point where employees have to cover up for management's incompetance.
All you are required to do is show up and give them the 5 days. OK...they may have you there in physical body, but you owe the employer (or your replacement) nothing in productivity. Who's going to monitor this training session? The reality is probably no one, so why should you spend any mental effort into the endeavor? Be curtious the the new employee, but let him/her know about the situation. Point this employee to where the documentation is stored, some internal procedures, who to contact on what major issues, and give a long and in depth tour of the building (a great time waster). Go out for a 1-2 hour lunches and encourage long coffee breaks. Show this new employee around the building and strike up lengthy conversations with everyone you meet. I'm sure the week will just fly by.
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Well, I have become that evil ***** that everyone talks about when you are gone. I have an old port from my Chemo that needs to come out, guess when? I still have sick days owed to me, so they get no orientation and I get my surgery on their time.
Why is it that I now have my petty revenge, but feel guiloty as hell. Oh well, anesthesia will take care of those feelings.
Thanks for the support. It helped a lot!
Why is it that I now have my petty revenge, but feel guiloty as hell. Oh well, anesthesia will take care of those feelings.
Thanks for the support. It helped a lot!
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