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Again. It's a lot more complex then that. Isreal was carved out in land that Palestinians were living in. Heck. The whole region was carved up into nation states, leaving the traditional nomadic tribes somewhat out in the cold (so to speak). The Palestinians were just one such group of people who didn't get a chair when the music stopped.

This was exacerbated when an expatriation exchange was worked out between Isreal and their three nearest Arab neighbors soon after formation (that's Egypt, Syria, and Jordan). The deal was that the Jews living in those three countries would give up their lands and homes and move to Isreal and the Palestinian Muslims living in Isreal would move to those respective countries. The problem was that the Jews moved into Isreal, but when the Palestinians started moving into the other nations, they found that the property given up by the Jews had been taken by the state and they had nowhere to live. News of this rapidly trickled back to Isreal, and the Palestinians that hadn't moved yet decided to stay rather then have nothing when they got to their new countries. This caused a bit of a problem for all the Jews who'd just left everything they owned behind on the assumption that they would recieve the lands that the Palestinians were now refusing to leave.


Isreal was stuck. It had promised lands to the Jews moving in, but that land was now occupied by Palestinians who refused to move. Which has legal claim is a matter of debate. It's a fact that the Palestinians got screwed in the deal, but who screwed them? They made the best of it until the same three Arab states invaded Isreal. Isreal responded and ended the war with lands taken from all three nations (West Bank, Gazi Strip, and Golan Heights). Thinking this was a great place to move the Palestinians, they began forced relocations. Of course, the Palestinians didn't like that since the lands in Isreal proper had been developed over the intervening time, but now they were expected to live in relatively "crappy" lands. That issue is still raging. Even today, it's another one of the stumbling blocks in granting true lands to the Palestinian State. There are some factions within Palestine that insist on being allowed to reclaim the original lands they had in Isreal proper, and they feel that accepting that lands in the three captured territories amounts to giving up that claim.

Isreal, meanwhile also isn't too keen on a Palestinian State to begin with. Both they and many Palestinian leaders feel that once Palestine is a fully separate state, the bordering Arab nations will simply annex them, claiming it's legal since those were lands taken from them by Isreal in war. Thus, creating a Palestinian state, totally separate from Isreal is a lot more complicated then just drawing some lines on a map and sewing together a flag.


But you're right. We can just simplify it all to "Isreal is a big meanie and that's why everyone doesn't like them". Culpability for the problems there have less to do with the formation of the Isreali state then with the formation of states in the region in general. The only difference is that we hear about oppression of the Palestinians by the Isrealis. You actually have to look to find information about the atrocities commited by Arab states against disenfranchised formerly nomadic people's within their borders. The Kurds spring right to mind. Odds are, until the Iraq war in 91, you never heard of them. Why do you suppose that is?...

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