The picture in the middle made my heart drop...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131710,00.html
How do you wage a smarter more sensitive war against these savages? I'm left without words... The whole thing is so perverse.
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How do you wage a smarter more sensitive war against these savages?
Some people have suggested foreign relations (get our allies behind us, and all work together ^_^).
Taking a stand agains Isreal's human rights policies might help things out a bit too.
I'm sick of Israel too.. But there is nothing that comes close to substantiating building bombs around 5 year old children... I don't care anymore. Yes, we should cut our ties with bad friends. Sirael, Germany..... Who knows, maybe Russia has seen the light now though. God, those poor families. It's just sick.
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How do you wage a smarter more sensitive war against these savages?
Stop being such a tool that you'd use the deaths of children as a chance to spout propaganda from the Bush campaign.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel... You've struck a real nerve. This has nothing to do with the political elections I dont give a damn right now. I'm not even quoting anyone on that I'm speaking in general. Seriously, take your venom elsewhere. I'm focused on protecting children. I speak to ANYONE who can think of a reason why we should tolerate this kind of behaviour. Bravery has NOTHING to do with this at all. As I recall, the American Revolution never entailed patriots blowing up schoolchildren. These peopel are animals, and you want to bicker about politics. Perhaps I didnt make myself clear...
HOW DOES ONE COME UP WITH AN EXCUSE FOR NOT USING MAXIMUM FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE THIS. (capitalized to show my n00bness)
If I were Putin I'd be real clear that I would love to find the nearest Muddrasa and welcome them to the wonderful world of Tac-nuke.
Edited, Tue Sep 7 21:05:47 2004 by Lefein
HOW DOES ONE COME UP WITH AN EXCUSE FOR NOT USING MAXIMUM FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE THIS. (capitalized to show my n00bness)
If I were Putin I'd be real clear that I would love to find the nearest Muddrasa and welcome them to the wonderful world of Tac-nuke.
Edited, Tue Sep 7 21:05:47 2004 by Lefein
[quote]If I were Putin I'd be real clear that I would love to find the nearest Muddrasa and welcome them to the wonderful world of Tac-nuke.[quote]
We can't allow Russia to use nukes. Freinds or not it will set a bad precidence about the use of nuclear weapons. North Korea could potentially launch nuclear strikes on us. The last thing we need is to send them a signal that its ok to use WMD's. Same thing for the terrorists we can't send the same message that WMD's are ok to them too.
We can't allow Russia to use nukes. Freinds or not it will set a bad precidence about the use of nuclear weapons. North Korea could potentially launch nuclear strikes on us. The last thing we need is to send them a signal that its ok to use WMD's. Same thing for the terrorists we can't send the same message that WMD's are ok to them too.
Not true, we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the Japanese adherance to Shinto led us to believe that they would literally fight to the very last man woman or child. So we threw horror in their face and they were subdued. I think these animals forgot who really holds power in this world. They think they can get their way by causing in-fighting in governments. (To adegree that has been the case, thank you Spain and Phillippines)
As far as North Korea is concerned, we should all get a good kick out of seeing them fire all five of their weapons off and then become a glowing crater for the next 3,000 years by the world reaction to it.
Tac-nukes are small. Matter of fact there are conventional weapons that have more devastating effects. I think the "shock and awe" of nuclear retaliation would be far mroe significant in symbolism rather than in any actuality.
As far as North Korea is concerned, we should all get a good kick out of seeing them fire all five of their weapons off and then become a glowing crater for the next 3,000 years by the world reaction to it.
Tac-nukes are small. Matter of fact there are conventional weapons that have more devastating effects. I think the "shock and awe" of nuclear retaliation would be far mroe significant in symbolism rather than in any actuality.
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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How do you wage a smarter more sensitive war against these savages?
Well first you dont ignore them when they ask to be a sovereign state like they were before the formation of the USSR especially when they spend 5 years trying to go through all the political processes, secondly you dont do your damndest to get rid of the moderate politicians that are trying to negotiate peace, thirdly you dont bring your military in and supress the region it only gets people that didnt give a rats *** before to join the "savages".
Im not defending the atrocity that occurred in the school but just because the Chechyns were wrong doesnt make the Putin government right.
Being hardline will only make a desperate people moreso. If they feel that they can get no where through political channels or have their voice heard you will have a small group of crazies do something like this.
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Lets get it out in the open by foreign relations you're talking about france, germany, and spain....I would have said Russia but I have a feeling they are going to get a little more vigilant against terrorists. France and Germany are in a epic scandal involving the food for oil program so they have a vested interest in seeing that any information regarding those scams and their connection to terrorists don't come out. So in essence you're saying the u.s. needs the support of these corrupted governments that have contributed as much to support the spread of terrorism as the saudi family.
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Some people have suggested foreign relations (get our allies behind us, and all work together ^_^).
Lets get it out in the open by foreign relations you're talking about france, germany, and spain....I would have said Russia but I have a feeling they are going to get a little more vigilant against terrorists. France and Germany are in a epic scandal involving the food for oil program so they have a vested interest in seeing that any information regarding those scams and their connection to terrorists don't come out. So in essence you're saying the u.s. needs the support of these corrupted governments that have contributed as much to support the spread of terrorism as the saudi family.
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foreign relations you're talking about france, germany, and spain
Muslim states who could help curb the spread of fundamentalist Islamists like they did back in '91 when a decent republican (Can't recall his name but his son has been such a disappointment to him) used world diplomacy instead of just waving his dic[i][/i]ck in the air.
When the Lord put teeth in your mouth, he ruined a perfectly good *****
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Muslim states who could help curb the spread of fundamentalist Islamists like they did back in '91
Obviously that policy was effective.
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Well first you dont ignore them when they ask to be a sovereign state like they were before the formation of the USSR especially when they spend 5 years trying to go through all the political processes, secondly you dont do your damndest to get rid of the moderate politicians that are trying to negotiate peace, thirdly you dont bring your military in and supress the region it only gets people that didnt give a rats *** before to join the "savages".
Damn, that seemed to work pretty good in the 1860s.
Oh yeah, there weren't any nukes or really nasty biological weapons back then. Guess they should get some newer textbooks for their schools....
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Obviously that policy was effective.
Since then, there was the little matter of US support for Israel building subsidised houses in areas the international community (including Uncle Sam) had agreed were Palestinian.
Now you're even too stupid to come back with the retort "Ahh but the Palestinians sent suicide bombers into Israel" but let's assume you did have a shining moment my dear village idiot. (That has a ring to it, I have found your new name!)
The Israelis and the Palestinians have spent so long playing 'Revenge' that no-one can remember who started it, but neither has the brains to realise that every action ahs an opposite reaction
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Confusing the actions and goals of the Palestinians and those of Islamic extremists in general is a really bad mistake to make. The two literally have nothing more then a vague geographical and religious similarity between them. It's like saying that the we could have stopped the Heaven's Gate people from "drinking the punch" if only the BATF hadn't screwd up in Waco with the Branch Davidians.
Totally different issues. Arabic Islamic fundamentalists use the Isreali treatmemt of Palestinians as an excuse. They don't like the Palestinians any more then the Israelis do. In fact one of the reasons the Palestinians want franchisement in Isreal instead (or in addition to depending on the faction) of just stretches of land in the desert is that they know the second they aren't living in Isreal, they'll be annexed into 2nd class citizenship in a Arab state instead. They'd rather be oppressed by the Isrealis. That says something...
Totally different issues. Arabic Islamic fundamentalists use the Isreali treatmemt of Palestinians as an excuse. They don't like the Palestinians any more then the Israelis do. In fact one of the reasons the Palestinians want franchisement in Isreal instead (or in addition to depending on the faction) of just stretches of land in the desert is that they know the second they aren't living in Isreal, they'll be annexed into 2nd class citizenship in a Arab state instead. They'd rather be oppressed by the Isrealis. That says something...
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How do you wage a smarter more sensitive war against these savages?
Well first you dont ignore them when they ask to be a sovereign state like they were before the formation of the USSR especially when they spend 5 years trying to go through all the political processes, secondly you dont do your damndest to get rid of the moderate politicians that are trying to negotiate peace, thirdly you dont bring your military in and supress the region it only gets people that didnt give a rats *** before to join the "savages".
Im not defending the atrocity that occurred in the school but just because the Chechyns were wrong doesnt make the Putin government right.
Being hardline will only make a desperate people moreso. If they feel that they can get no where through political channels or have their voice heard you will have a small group of crazies do something like this.
As I remember they had a referendum and they voted to stay a part of russia... The separitists dont even make up a majority.
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Totally different issues. Arabic Islamic fundamentalists use the Isreali treatmemt of Palestinians as an excuse. They don't like the Palestinians any more then the Israelis do. In fact one of the reasons the Palestinians want franchisement in Isreal instead (or in addition to depending on the faction) of just stretches of land in the desert is that they know the second they aren't living in Isreal, they'll be annexed into 2nd class citizenship in a Arab state instead. They'd rather be oppressed by the Isrealis. That says something...
Bull-sh[i][/i]it, nonetheless.
Israel was dropped into Palestine at Churchill's drunken suggestion, both countries have behaved reprehensively for 50 years and both deserve condemnation.
Israel
If it wants to build Israeli homes in Gaza/West Bank, then why did it agree to their cessation?
Palestine
Damned by half the Muslim world and most of the West, it harbours Hezb'ullah and is a wart on the middle-east's *****
Both have rights of self-determination.
One receives the backing of the US regardless of the barbarity of its actions (Shabra and Al-Shatila were atrocities on a par with Auschwitz, Rwanda, Kosovo and Pol-Pot's games in Cambodia). That has mobilised some ************* nutters to use it as an excuse to try to land planes on desktops.
Go figure, Sparky
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
you guys are missing the real kicker in this mess.
the United States, us, supports their independance from russia, and have since this little spat began. knocking down the wall wasnt enough, we want to see russia carved into little pieces so our pariniod asses never have to worrie about them again.
just like we supported the "freedom fighters" in afganistan.
why do you think some stupid *** from the white house suggested they negotiate with the "rebels"?
any animal that would intentionally target small children to make a political statement should be killed. any group of people who would support the cause of these animals should be NUKED.
i am all for geanocide in this situation. turn the whole place into a crater. if you are going to justify killing innocents to acchive an objective, lets not be chicken sheit about it. launch the nukes.
the United States, us, supports their independance from russia, and have since this little spat began. knocking down the wall wasnt enough, we want to see russia carved into little pieces so our pariniod asses never have to worrie about them again.
just like we supported the "freedom fighters" in afganistan.
why do you think some stupid *** from the white house suggested they negotiate with the "rebels"?
any animal that would intentionally target small children to make a political statement should be killed. any group of people who would support the cause of these animals should be NUKED.
i am all for geanocide in this situation. turn the whole place into a crater. if you are going to justify killing innocents to acchive an objective, lets not be chicken sheit about it. launch the nukes.
This looks great for mister "We do not negotiate with terrorists" Yeah go on givin us THAT line Dubya!
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The separitists dont even make up a majority.
Most terrorist cells* are happy to claim that they are acting on behalf of a country/faith/regime/viewpoint, despite being a teensy-weensy minority.
*E.g. IRA, McVeigh & Co., Hezb'ullah, Chechen bombers, ETA, Al-Qaeda, Britney Spears, Brigatti Rosso, Black September etc.
(OK, I may have been heavy-handed about Britney)
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
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So am I to conclude that based on dental hygeine-- or rather the lack thereof --Englishmen have some pretty good looking a$$es?
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So am I to conclude that based on dental hygeine-- or rather the lack thereof --Englishmen have some pretty good looking a$$es?
Totem
"When the Lord put teeth in your mouth, he ruined a perfectly good *********** --Nobby
So am I to conclude that based on dental hygeine-- or rather the lack thereof --Englishmen have some pretty good looking a$$es?
Totem
So am I to conclude that based on dental hygeine-- or rather the lack thereof --Englishmen have some pretty good looking a$$es?
Totem
This looks great for mister "We do not negotiate with terrorists" Yeah go on givin us THAT line Dubya!
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So am I to conclude that based on dental hygeine-- or rather the lack thereof --Englishmen have some pretty good looking a$$es?
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Who's that? John Major's wife?
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Who's that? John Major's wife?
No!!!111oneone Who's on 2nd. What's on 1st.
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