If only he can take a stand on anything for more than a week, he would be president. He still gets my vote, but only because I know who Bush is and what he did to my community.
Gadin
Edited, Tue Sep 7 17:55:04 2004 by Gadin
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Things Kerry could do to win my support:
1. Propose flat tax system to alleviate the IRS and make the government have a vested interest a=in expanding the economy.
2. Propose a phasing out of our dependence on foreign feuls by introducing incentives to energy companies to switch over to cleaner alternatives (Such as hydrogen powered vehicles)
3. Promise to stay the course in Iraq and get the job done (then get the hell out)
4. Do what the DIA has proposed for years to pull our forces out of western Europe and strengthen our alliances with NATO countries as opposed to the UN. (Oil for food still leaves my back bleeding from the stab wound)
5. Tort Reform (Take a look at his VP though....)
6. Take a stance on gay marriage
7. Encourage re- education of workers in the plummeting manufacturing sector (Lets face it these people are getting paid 20 dollars an hour to tack bumpers to trucks and have little inclination to do anything else)
8. Quit sucking up to France.
1. Propose flat tax system to alleviate the IRS and make the government have a vested interest a=in expanding the economy.
2. Propose a phasing out of our dependence on foreign feuls by introducing incentives to energy companies to switch over to cleaner alternatives (Such as hydrogen powered vehicles)
3. Promise to stay the course in Iraq and get the job done (then get the hell out)
4. Do what the DIA has proposed for years to pull our forces out of western Europe and strengthen our alliances with NATO countries as opposed to the UN. (Oil for food still leaves my back bleeding from the stab wound)
5. Tort Reform (Take a look at his VP though....)
6. Take a stance on gay marriage
7. Encourage re- education of workers in the plummeting manufacturing sector (Lets face it these people are getting paid 20 dollars an hour to tack bumpers to trucks and have little inclination to do anything else)
8. Quit sucking up to France.
Very good points LeFein thank you.
This has been Bush's main selling point, if not a major one. And one reason why I can see him re-elected. Kerry has come out saying all the reasons why we shouldn't be there, but it's a little late for that, so he should be talking about exit strategy if anything.
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Promise to stay the course in Iraq and get the job done (then get the hell out)
This has been Bush's main selling point, if not a major one. And one reason why I can see him re-elected. Kerry has come out saying all the reasons why we shouldn't be there, but it's a little late for that, so he should be talking about exit strategy if anything.
Well I heard somehwere (I cant quote a direct sourse so I could be right or wrong on this) that Kerry said if he were President he would pull troops out in six months. I think that would send a horrible message to all the insurgents and Saddam Jrs there that if they can hold on for six months they can turn Iraq into a post WW1 Germany of their own... F' that!
I simply can't vote to put a man in a position of such power as "Leader of the Free World" simply on the basis of what he won't do. You have to give me more than that. I hope he sees this now and starts giving us something to chew on. You can onyl talk so much about how someone isn't Bush until you realize that everyone isnt Bush except Bush. Very little to stand on come Nov2.
This thread is full of crap. Kerry will stay the course in Iraq when he wins in November. Any President would have to at this point - the political repercussions at home and abroad for failing our mission would be worse than having to leave troops there. Not to mention that, as McCain recently said, we will most likely have troops in Iraq for at least 10-20 more years, and that is a low estimate (of course it won't be 140k but still).
I see a lot of dumbing down and generalizing, which is usually the case when people are criticizing Kerry. He never said he would simply remove a bunch of troops 6 mo. from now. What he is going to do, is drop our countries arrogant "Do it with or without you stance" and revive foreign relations.
There is still the potential for more countries to lend their troops to the cause. Why would they do this now? One reason is that we will be openly discussing strategies for the new-and-improved Iraq, rather than dictating them. And more importantly, we will grant our allies lucrative contracts for business in the new Iraq, giving them more incentive to help. Why haven't we done this already? Greed. Our government wants all of the contracts. Are we willing to sacrifice lives for this? Of course.
This is how Kerry plans to withdraw troops. By negating Bush's alienation of other countries and the U.N. Once there are other countries troops in Iraq as well, we will (possibly as soon as 6 mo. from now) start to bring home a sizable portion of our troops.
I see a lot of dumbing down and generalizing, which is usually the case when people are criticizing Kerry. He never said he would simply remove a bunch of troops 6 mo. from now. What he is going to do, is drop our countries arrogant "Do it with or without you stance" and revive foreign relations.
There is still the potential for more countries to lend their troops to the cause. Why would they do this now? One reason is that we will be openly discussing strategies for the new-and-improved Iraq, rather than dictating them. And more importantly, we will grant our allies lucrative contracts for business in the new Iraq, giving them more incentive to help. Why haven't we done this already? Greed. Our government wants all of the contracts. Are we willing to sacrifice lives for this? Of course.
This is how Kerry plans to withdraw troops. By negating Bush's alienation of other countries and the U.N. Once there are other countries troops in Iraq as well, we will (possibly as soon as 6 mo. from now) start to bring home a sizable portion of our troops.
I would LOVE to see Kerry tell us that there will be French and German troops in Iraq... Bwuhahaha! Yeah, give them contracts.. Bwuhahahaha! Yeah, hey mister UN, now that Americans have spilt their blood liberating a country how about you reap some profit!
/points at all the French fighter jets from Saddam's Air Force
/runs and grabs a big blanket to cover them with
/shakes hands with all out "friends" in the UN
Now THAT'S how you treat your "real" friends! You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. The very idea that you would say that we have the kind of brokering power in Iraq that you do shows me how twisted your view of political reality is. Once we're outta there, w're out. If Iraqis want to pump out the oil to another company then they will. That's all there is to it. Besides that fact though, you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
/points at all the French fighter jets from Saddam's Air Force
/runs and grabs a big blanket to cover them with
/shakes hands with all out "friends" in the UN
Now THAT'S how you treat your "real" friends! You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. The very idea that you would say that we have the kind of brokering power in Iraq that you do shows me how twisted your view of political reality is. Once we're outta there, w're out. If Iraqis want to pump out the oil to another company then they will. That's all there is to it. Besides that fact though, you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
Aren't sticks, by definition, "dead"?
That's a lot of commas. Judges?
That's a lot of commas. Judges?
Flea don't try to bring logic into this, you'll just confuse the Liberals more.
Princess Atomicflea wrote:
Aren't sticks, by definition, "dead"?
That's a lot of commas. Judges?
That's a lot of commas. Judges?
Most sticks would be dead, by definition. The irony of it all is that a dead and dried out piece of wood would demonstrate rigidity as opposed to flacidity, which is contrary to what the post was trying to say.
Whee, triple postage.
Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:25:59 2004 by Smasharoo
Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:25:59 2004 by Smasharoo
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Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:31:27 2004 by Smasharoo
Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:31:27 2004 by Smasharoo
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Well I heard somehwere (I cant quote a direct sourse so I could be right or wrong on this) that Kerry said if he were President he would pull troops out in six months. I think that would send a horrible message to all the insurgents and Saddam Jrs there that if they can hold on for six months they can turn Iraq into a post WW1 Germany of their own... F' that!
I heard Kerry eats babies and ***** on old people. Also he puts kittens in a blender and drinks them!
(I don't actually have a source for that or anything, but I'll let it decide who I vote for because I'm a lazy idiot).
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
Nice trips.
Jesus, laggy tonight.
Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:32:08 2004 by Lubriderm
Edited, Wed Sep 8 01:32:08 2004 by Lubriderm
Things Kerry could do to win my support.
1) not be Bush
2) see number 1
1) not be Bush
2) see number 1
Warlord Lefein wrote:
now that Americans have spilt their blood liberating a country how about you reap some profit!
...
You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. Once we're outta there, w're out.
...
you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
...
You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. Once we're outta there, w're out.
...
you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
So you're saying that you too would be willing to have more troops die rather than enlist the help of foreign countries. Money > Life? Just because Bush is so inept at it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
People who refuse to support our cause? Once again, an ignorant dumbing down of the facts. They refused to support our cause based on the reasons we used at that time. You remember...the reasons that turned out to be lies? Come to think of it, the majority of the world was against that. Hmmm. Looks like you are the minority pal. If that makes me a "commie" or "unpatriotic" than I am proud to be that.
Once we're outta there, we're out? Well if you mean what it sounds like you mean, I'd say you're wrong.
'When asked this week on CNN how long the U.S. military is likely to remain in Iraq, Senator John McCain replied "probably" 10 or 20 years. "That's not so bad," he said, adding, "We've been in Korea for 50 years. We've been in West Germany for 50 years."'
You have no f*ckin clue what you are talking about.
Hey mindspirals you're back! Better not let Totem see you. By the way how's the *** after the reaming he gave you last time.
We had full scale wars with Korea and Germany, we are in Iraq for a different purpose, I can see troops stationed in Iraq for maybe 3 - 5 years, but the Middle East is just to volatile for an occupation as long as Germany.
Other countries will make the call for our troops to be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
Gadin
Other countries will make the call for our troops to be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
Gadin
That's a lot of commas. Judges?
Commas are used to denote pauses in a sentence where one would normally pause when speaking. From that standpoint, using too many commas is impossible.
Quite succinctly, you have separated your appositive from the rest of the sentence, thus your comma usage is permissible and you shall not be killed. More broadly, you have used a comma to offset a parenthetical element.
However, I'm not sure we can argue the meaning of your words. A good case can be made that a stick is both alive and dead, and possibly both at the same time. Humanistic v Plath v quantum mechanics.
Commas are used to denote pauses in a sentence where one would normally pause when speaking. From that standpoint, using too many commas is impossible.
Quite succinctly, you have separated your appositive from the rest of the sentence, thus your comma usage is permissible and you shall not be killed. More broadly, you have used a comma to offset a parenthetical element.
However, I'm not sure we can argue the meaning of your words. A good case can be made that a stick is both alive and dead, and possibly both at the same time. Humanistic v Plath v quantum mechanics.
spawned wrote:
Hey mindspirals you're back! Better not let Totem see you. By the way how's the *** after the reaming he gave you last time.
"Well that is just like, your opinion man."
I was back last week actually - guess you haven't seen any of my posts. Oh...and I was gone from Thur. night through Monday too, had to go to Kansas for a family reunion.
Gadin wrote:
We had full scale wars with Korea and Germany, we are in Iraq for a different purpose, I can see troops stationed in Iraq for maybe 3 - 5 years, but the Middle East is just to volatile for an occupation as long as Germany.
Other countries will make the call for our troops to be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
Gadin
Other countries will make the call for our troops to be withdrawn sooner rather than later.
Gadin
Oh ok, I understand now. I was inclined to believe John McCain til I realized that you had a different opinion.
Mindspirals wrote:
Warlord Lefein wrote:
now that Americans have spilt their blood liberating a country how about you reap some profit!
...
You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. Once we're outta there, w're out.
...
you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
...
You make my country a ***** for people who refuse to support our cause. Once we're outta there, w're out.
...
you would have us bend over for the very people that have stabbed us in the back.
So you're saying that you too would be willing to have more troops die rather than enlist the help of foreign countries. Money > Life? Just because Bush is so inept at it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
People who refuse to support our cause? Once again, an ignorant dumbing down of the facts. They refused to support our cause based on the reasons we used at that time. You remember...the reasons that turned out to be lies? Come to think of it, the majority of the world was against that. Hmmm. Looks like you are the minority pal. If that makes me a "commie" or "unpatriotic" than I am proud to be that.
Once we're outta there, we're out? Well if you mean what it sounds like you mean, I'd say you're wrong.
'When asked this week on CNN how long the U.S. military is likely to remain in Iraq, Senator John McCain replied "probably" 10 or 20 years. "That's not so bad," he said, adding, "We've been in Korea for 50 years. We've been in West Germany for 50 years."'
You have no f*ckin clue what you are talking about.
Yeah ***** it, let the euros have their oil, we have bigger fish to fry.
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