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#1 Sep 01 2004 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
posted September 01, 2004 02:37 PM
I received this today from my best friend currently in Iraq. I know it's a bit long, but it is so worth reading. I wish the entire country read these words. Regardless of political views, race, rich or poor, we are all Americans.

“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” –George Orwell

The Marine Corps is tired. I guess I should not say that, as I have no authority or responsibility to speak for the Marine Corps as a whole. I will rephrase: this Marine is tired. I write this piece from the sands of Iraq, near Fallujah, at three a.m., but I am not tired of the sand. I am neither tired of long days, nor of flying and fighting. I am not tired of the food, though it does not taste quite right. I am not tired of the heat; I am not tried of the mortars that occasionally fall on my base. I am not tired of the missions or the people; I have only been here a month, after all. I am not tired of Marines dying, though all Marines, past and present, mourn the loss of every brother and sister that is killed; death is a part of combat and every warrior knows that going into battle. I am, however, tired of the hypocrisy and short-sightedness that seems to have gripped so many of my countrymen and the media. I am tired of political rhetoric that misses the point, and mostly I am tired of people “not getting it.”

Three years ago I was sitting in a classroom at Quantico, Virginia, while attending the Marine Corps Basic Officer Course, learning about the finer points of land navigation. Our commanding officer interrupted the class to inform us that some planes had crashed in New York and Washington D.C., and that he would return when he knew more. Tears welled in the eyes of the Lieutenant on my right while class continued, albeit with an audience that was not very focused; his sister lived in New York and worked at the World Trade Center. We broke for lunch and instead of going to the chow hall proceeded to a small pizza and sub joint which had a television. Slices of pizza sat cold in front of us as we watched the same vivid images that you watched on September 11, 2001. I look back on that moment now and realize that even then I grasped, at some level, that the events of that day would alter both my military career and my country forever. Though I did not know that three years later, to the day, I would be flying combat missions in Iraq as a Super Cobra pilot, I did understand that a war had just begun, on television for the world to see, and that my classmates and I would fight that war. After lunch we were told to go to our rooms, clean our weapons and pack our gear for possible deployment to the Pentagon to augment perimeter security. The parting words of the order were to make sure we packed gloves, in case we had to handle bodies.

The first Marine killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom was in my company at The Basic School, and was sitting in that land navigation class on September 11. He fought bravely, led from the front, and was killed seizing an oil refinery on the opening day of the war. His heroism made my emergency procedure memorization seem quite insignificant. This feeling of frustration was shared by all of the student pilots, but we continued to press. As one instructor pointed out to us, “You will fight this war, not me. Make sure that you are prepared when you get there.” He was right; my classmates from Pensacola are here beside me, flying every day in support of the Marines on the ground. That instructor has since retired, but I believe he has retired knowing that he made a contribution to the greatest country in the history of the world, the United States of America.

Many of you will read that statement and balk at its presumptuous and arrogant nature, and perhaps be tempted to stop reading right here. I would ask that you keep going, for I did not say that Americans are better than anyone else, for I do not believe that to be the case. I did not say that our country, its leaders, military or intelligence services are perfect or have never made mistakes, because throughout history they have, and will continue to do so, despite their best efforts. The Nation is more than the some of its citizens and leaders, more than its history, present, or future; a nation has contemporary values which change as its leaders change, but it also has timeless character, ideals forged with the blood and courage of patriots. To quote the Pledge of Allegiance, our nation was founded under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. As Americans, we have more freedom than we can handle sometimes.

If you are an atheist you might have a problem with that whole “under God part;” if you are against liberating the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Asia, all of Europe (twice), and the former Soviet bloc, then perhaps the “liberty and justice for all” section might leave you fuming. Disagreement is a wonderful thing. To disagree with your neighbors and your government is at the very heart of freedom. Citizens have disagreed about every important and controversial decision made by the leaders throughout history. Truman had the courage to drop two nuclear weapons in order to end the largest war in history, and then, by his actions, prevented the Soviets from extinguishing the light of democracy in Eastern Europe, Berlin. Lincoln preserved our country through civil war; Reagan that knew in his heart that Freedom is a more powerful weapon than oppression. Leaders are paid to make difficult, sometimes controversial decisions. History will judge the success of their actions and the purity of their intent in a way that is impossible to do at the present moment. In your disagreement about the current conflict, be very careful that you do not jeopardize your nation or those who serve.

Cherish your civil rights; I know that after having been in Iraq for only one month I have a new appreciation for mine. You have the right to say that you “support the troops” but oppose the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. You have the right to vote for Senator John Kerry because you believe that he has an exit strategy for Iraq, or because you just cannot stand President Bush. You have the right to vote for President George Bush if you believe that he has done a good job over the last four years. You might even decide that you do not want to vote at all and would rather avoid the issues as much as possible. That is certainly your option, and doing nothing is the only option for many people in this world.

It is not my place, nor am I allowed by the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, to tell you how to vote. But I can explain to you the truth about what is going on around you. We know, and have known from the beginning, that the ultimate success or failure of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the future of those countries, rests solely on the shoulders of the Iraqi and Afghani people. If someone complains that we should not have gone to war with Saddam Hussein, that our intelligence was bad, that President Bush’s motives were impure, then take the appropriate action. Exercise your right to vote for Senator Kerry, but please stop whining. The decision to deploy our military in Iraq and Afghanistan is in the past, and while I believe that it is important to the democratic process for our nation to analyze the decisions of our leadership in order to avoid repeating mistakes, it is far more important to focus on the future. You should not vote for Kerry if you believe that he will get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan sooner. YOU SHOULD NOT WANT US OUT OF IRAQ SOONER. There is only one coherent exit strategy that will make our time here worthwhile and validate the sacrifice of so many of our countrymen. There is only one strategy that has a chance of promoting peace and stabilizing the Middle East. It is the exit strategy of both candidates, though voiced with varying volumes and differing degrees of clarity.

The American military must continue to help train and support the Iraqi police, National Guard, and Armed Forces. We must continue to give them both responsibility and the authority with which to carry out those responsibilities, so that they eventually can kill or capture the former regime elements and foreign terrorists that are trying to create a radical, oppressive state. We must continue to repair the infrastructure that we damaged during the conflict, and improve on the infrastructure that was insufficient when Saddam was in power. We must respect the citizens of Iraq and help them to understand the meaning of basic human rights, for those are something the average Iraqi has never experienced. We must help them develop national pride, and most importantly, we must leave this country better than we found it, at the right time, with a chance of success so that its people will have an opportunity to forge their own destiny. We must do all of these things as quickly and efficiently as possible so that we are not seen as occupiers, but rather liberators and helpers. We must communicate this to the world as clearly and frequently as possible.

If we leave before these things are done, then the country will fall into anarchy and possibly plunge the Middle East into another war. The ability of the United States to implement foreign policy will be severely, and perhaps permanently, degraded. Terrorism will increase, both in America and around the world, as America will have demonstrated that we are not interested in building and helping, only destroying. If we run or exit early, we prove to them that terror is more powerful and potent than freedom. Many nations, like Spain, have already affirmed this in the minds of the terrorists. Our failure and its consequences will be squarely on our shoulders as a nation. It will be our fault. If we stay the course and Iraq falls into civil war on its own, then our hands are clean. As a citizen of the United States and a U.S. Marine, I will be able to sleep at night with nothing on my conscience, for I know that I, and my country, have done as much as we could for these people. If we leave early, I will not be able to live with myself, and neither should you. The blood will be on our hands, the failure on our watch.

The bottom line is this: Republican or Democrat, approve or disapprove of the decision to go to war, you need to support our efforts here. You cannot both support the troops and protest their mission. Every time the parent of a fallen Marine gets on CNN with a photo, accusing President Bush of murdering his son, the enemy wins a strategic victory. I cannot begin to comprehend the grief he feels at the death of his son, but he dishonors the memory of my brave brother who paid the ultimate price. That Marine volunteered to serve, just like the rest of us. No one here was drafted. I am proud of my service and that of my peers. I am ashamed of that parent’s actions, and I pray to God that if I am killed my parents will stand with pride before the cameras and reaffirm their belief that my life and sacrifice mattered; they loved me dearly and they firmly support the military and its mission in Iraq and Afghanistan. With that statement, they communicate very clearly to our enemies around the world that America is united, that we cannot be intimidated by decapitations and torture, and that we care enough about the Iraqi people to give them a chance at democracy and basic human rights. Do not support those that seek failure for us, or seek to trivialize the sacrifices made here. Do not make the deaths of your countrymen be in vain. Communicate to your media and elected officials that you are behind us and our mission. Send letters and encouragement to those who are deployed. When you meet a person that serves you, whether in the armed forces, police, or fire department, give them respect. Thank the spouses around you every day, raising children alone, whose loved ones are deployed. Remember those that have paid the ultimate price for your freedom. At the very least, follow your mother’s advice. “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.” Do not give the enemy a foothold our nation’s public opinion. He rejoices at Fahrenheit 9/11 and rejoices every time someone slams our efforts. The military can succeed here so long as American citizens support us wholeheartedly.

Sleep well on this third anniversary of 9/11, America. Rough men are standing ready to do violence on your behalf. Many of your sons and daughters volunteered to stand watch for you. Not just rough men- the infantry, the Marine grunts, the Special Operations Forces- but lots of eighteen and nineteen year old kids, teenagers, who are far away from home, serving as drivers, supply clerks, analysts, and mechanics. They all have stories, families, and dreams. They miss you, love you, and are willing to die for you. Do not make their time here, their sacrifice, a waste. Support them, and their mission.

#2 Sep 01 2004 at 11:42 PM Rating: Default
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Why do you persist in posting this *********
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#3 Sep 02 2004 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
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And we thought those guards in Abu Ghraib were sadistic bastards!
#4 Sep 02 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Default
I felt the need!
#5 Sep 02 2004 at 12:12 AM Rating: Good
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Why do you persist in posting this bullsh*t?


Perhaps she wants someone to explain what it means.

By the way "Get in My Belly!!" What the hell is that supposed to mean.

Maybe "Get out of my belly!!", or "Ohhhhhh, Enchaladas".

Please explain yourself.
#6 Sep 02 2004 at 12:16 AM Rating: Default
Its a pic of Tares Belly!
#7 Sep 02 2004 at 1:00 AM Rating: Good
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Katie forwards more e-mail glurge onto the forums than your typical grandma who just learned to use the internet.

Hey Katie... when you get the one about Bill Gates offering $100 to forward his e-mail and test Microsoft's new tracking program? It's a fake.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#8 Sep 02 2004 at 1:06 AM Rating: Good
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I just go this e-mail:

Nickolas Geisler <PierreVentura@lvrealhive.com> wrote:

Subject: CIGS-DISCOUNTED


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And I don't even smoke...
#9 Sep 02 2004 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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Exercise your right to vote for Senator Kerry, but please stop whining.


Someone should tell this guy we have a right to speech too.
#10 Sep 02 2004 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry, but if I was a woman, had not been a lesbian as I had envisioned, and got pregnant only to find somone took a pic of me my belly while carrying and have it used as an avatar. I think I'd seriously be creeped the **** out...



Edited, Thu Sep 2 02:23:45 2004 by Lilf
#11 Sep 02 2004 at 1:32 AM Rating: Good
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I got an e-mail I thought I should share with you all:
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what's up there cutie. ;)
I've been depressed lately and felt very lonely, plus I didn't get a reply from you in a while, makes me feel bad :/ what you been up to ? I'm not that good with computers, been trying to figure out what's wrong with my Outlook and it's really getting on my nurves, I asked Nikki but she doesn't know anything about computers either. Anyways I been going to the gym lately to releave my stress and it's working alittle, I still don't know why i feel this way ;X Yesterday was my birthday, had some girlfriends over, drank alittle and had fun, but even after that I feel lonely ;/ Got some pics together at http://address.deleted.com if you didn't see them, why don't you finally connect to my webcam so you can see me ? The webcam is on my web page, let's have some fun..
Pam obviously though it was important because she sent it to me six times using different e-mail addresses. Anything she felt that strongly about must be shared!
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#12 Sep 02 2004 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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tsk, Joph you sent email to someone who sold it. Stay away from the **** sites and don't believe it when they tell you, you can get 3 weeks of **** for free, just enter your email adresss here.
#13 Sep 02 2004 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
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And we thought those guards in Abu Ghraib were sadistic bastards!


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Ich war nur folgende Auftr
#14 Sep 02 2004 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Stay away from the **** sites and don't believe it when they tell you, you can get 3 weeks of **** for free, just enter your email adresss here.


When you meet a stripper, though, let her spend the night and set up a second date.

Just sayin.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.

#15 Sep 02 2004 at 4:50 AM Rating: Good
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Man you are green with envy, you almost look like a frog.

*** you let me live it up, it's not like I was in the same realationship since I was 19 or anything.
#16 Sep 02 2004 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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tsk, Joph you sent email to someone who sold it. Stay away from the **** sites and don't believe it when they tell you, you can get 3 weeks of **** for free, just enter your email adresss here.
Heh, I haven't, but I've had the same public e-mail address for six or seven years years now through listservs, USENet, forums like this and all other internet related activities. There's not an agency on the planet who doesn't have my e-mail address in their big spammer's book. My ISP's spam blocker does a good job of filtering most of it and any e-mails sent to me with attachments are dumped automatically.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#17 Sep 02 2004 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
You guys can't be that evil...

This sh*t is priceless:

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If you are an atheist you might have a problem with that whole “under God part;” if you are against liberating the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Asia, all of Europe (twice), and the former Soviet bloc, then perhaps the “liberty and justice for all” section might leave you fuming


It just amazes how people can willfully be that evil. Damn the 60's really screwed you guys up good.

Varus
#18 Sep 02 2004 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
Heh, I'm not evil. I'm also not trying to press my belief structure on anyone else.

Wait, guess I AM evil after all.
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You guys can't be that evil...

This sh*t is priceless:

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If you are an atheist you might have a problem with that whole “under God part;” if you are against liberating the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Asia, all of Europe (twice), and the former Soviet bloc, then perhaps the “liberty and justice for all” section might leave you fuming


It just amazes how people can willfully be that evil. Damn the 60's really screwed you guys up good.

Varus
But a MARINE wrote that quoted part!

Varrus, why do you hate our Marines? Smiley: frown

You better show this thread to your ex-Green Beret friends so they can beat ya up!
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#20 Sep 02 2004 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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In his own words
Are they referring to the staff writer at Reader's Digest?
#21 Sep 02 2004 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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A nameless American Warrior wrote:
I pray to God that if I am killed my parents will stand with pride before the cameras and reaffirm their belief that my life and sacrifice mattered
Shortly afterwards the soldier, know to his friends as 'the hog-f[i][/i]ucker, was killed whilst ***-raping 15 lady-boys and waering a rubber Nurse's Uniform.

His parents refused to comment.
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#22 Sep 02 2004 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
Katie wrote:
Its a pic of Tares Belly!


I know that, that was not my question, so I will ask again.

What the hell does "Get in my belly!!!" mean?

That strikes me as a very odd thing to say, presummably there is already somebody in her belly, so why are you saying "Get in my belly!!!!"

You're not all there, are you?
#23 Sep 02 2004 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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What the hell does "Get in my belly!!!" mean?
It goes with "I ate a Baby". Get the reference.
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#24 Sep 02 2004 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.wernersplace.com/wavs/FatBastard_gitnmybelly.mp3

#25 Sep 02 2004 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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It goes with "I ate a Baby". Get the reference.


I don't get out much.
#26 Sep 02 2004 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
I pulled this off of a military website actually. It was a GF of mine who said it was her brother who wrote it. I believed her, if its not one in the same, it wont be the first time Ive been that naive.
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