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#1 Sep 01 2004 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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This should be a separate thread. Pop one up and I'll toss out my 2 cent's worth.


so here goes:

you clearly have something devastatingly intellegent to say on the subject yanari, why do you think politicians should be allowed to campaign?

go!
#2 Sep 01 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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You'll never hear me claim to have anything devistatingly intelligent to say regarding politics. I leave that to the under 21 crowd.

I simply wonder how, in the current system of elections, would a candidate go about getting votes without campaigning.

What is the alternative system for gaining recognition and communicating their ideology to the voters?
#3 Sep 01 2004 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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Poorly dittoed pamphlets containing their manifesto and handed out at used CD stores and coffeehouses.

Like Dracoid's party!
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#4 Sep 01 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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What is the alternative system for gaining recognition and communicating their ideology to the voters?


Fear!

It's the communist way. Why waste all of that time trying to convince fickle people of the right way to do things. Just kill whoever doesn't openly support you!
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#5 Sep 01 2004 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Would it be all right if we tried the coffeehouse pamphlet thing before the "kill everyone" thing?
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#6 Sep 01 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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What is the alternative system for gaining recognition and communicating their ideology to the voters?


there isn't one, campaigning is the only decent way to get ideology across, but its missused with "john kerry is a coward, look how pretty my daughter is" bullsh[/i]it, i'm not saying there should be another way to get votes, i'm saying that there should be no votes and no democracy because in the system we use now, the richer the candidate the more advertising exacutives they can get to "communicate their ideology to the voters".

in conclusion:

advertising campaigning= best way to inform voters of their democratic candidates, but still a corrupt way

democracy= fuc[i]
ked up because this sh[/i]itty advertising putting-the-bourgoisie-first style campaigning is fuc[i]ked up, yet still the best way to run a democracy, which you said yourself
#7 Sep 01 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Would it be all right if we tried the coffeehouse pamphlet thing before the "kill everyone" thing?


pffttt you would make a crappy a[/b]ss dictator
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#8 Sep 01 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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It's the communist way.


bullshi[/i]t

have you read the communist manifesto? where does it say the proletariat should be controlled by fear, just because trotsky did it, and castro does it, dosen't mean communism does it, trotsky scared people, and he was a communist, does this mean he scared people BECAUSE he was a communist and because ALL communists strike fear into people? if you think the answer is yes you need to shut the fu[i]
ck up and try to understand what the f[i][/i]uck your'e talking about before you start making accusations like the unfounded one you just did
#9 Sep 01 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Dracoid's party


i'm not a member of any party, this goes back to what i said to xythex, just because A communist party does it, does not mean ALL communists do it, i didn't ever see the clause in any of Marx/enegels' works saying anyhting about coffe houses or leaflets
#10 Sep 01 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Good
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You don't think I care, do you?
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#11 Sep 01 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't think I care, do you?


well get off the thread then, you muppet
#12 Sep 01 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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Don't get me wrong, communism is a great idea. It just doesn't work when you add the human element. Humans are driven by one thing in life, Greed.

Don't get your panties all in a bunch Dracoid. Just because I don't think communism can work doesn't mean we can't still be friends. You've filled my cold capitalist heart with sadness :(
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#13 Sep 01 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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well get off the thread then, you muppet


Someone's begging for a hi-jack!!!
#14 Sep 01 2004 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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#15 Sep 01 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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It just doesn't work when you add the human element. Humans are driven by one thing in life, Greed.


i agree they are driven by greed, but not only greed, what about devotion to christ, Mr.Holy? Greed can be overcome by other things, patriotism, morals, and if greed comes before any of these things and people want to grab whatever they can from a communist state, then i'm all for blindfolds a firing squads, this is a totally different thing from fear

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please don't, at least not untill yanari has replied, thats if she hasn't done her famous leaving thing yet
#16 Sep 01 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Make me!


ok then its a deal, we'll all talk about politics, you can talk sh[i][/i]it about how your'e above this petty sort of thing, xythex can repeat the "i'm your friend" line over and over, and pickle provides the comic relief
#17 Sep 01 2004 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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i agree they are driven by greed, but not only greed, what about devotion to christ, Mr.Holy? Greed can be overcome by other things, patriotism, morals, and if greed comes before any of these things and people want to grab whatever they can from a communist state, then i'm all for blindfolds a firing squads, this is a totally different thing from fear


Did you just call me Mr. Holy? Anyway, individuals can see beyond greed. The vast majority can control their impulses enough. Thats how society has gotten where it is today. However, it only takes a few power hungry intelligent people to sway the masses and bastardize the system. As evidenced in all communist nations to date.

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#18 Sep 01 2004 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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xythex can repeat the "i'm your friend" line over and over,


Thats it, friendships off. Im officially searching for a new friend. Varrus, you still all butt hurt about that whole racist,retarded,schizophrenic, biggot thing?
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#19 Sep 01 2004 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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The vast majority can control their impulses enough. Thats how society has gotten where it is today. However, it only takes a few power hungry intelligent people to sway the masses and bastardize the system. As evidenced in all communist nations to date.


well this is where you deploy the blindfolds and the firing squads

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As evidenced in all communist nations to date.


china? cuba? people seem to forget these when listing all the things wrong with the USSR, yugoslavia, north korea, vietnam and so on
#20 Sep 01 2004 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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well this is where you deploy the blindfolds and the firing squads


You can't possibly kill all of the greedy people. So isn't this just killing a few to control the rest by fear?
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#21 Sep 01 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
I say we start a grass roots forum initiative to get Dark to give Dracoid a custome title. How about Commie Tool?
#22 Sep 01 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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You can't possibly kill all of the greedy people. So isn't this just killing a few to control the rest by fear?


i'm not saying kill all the greedy people, i'm saying kill the people who's greed overpowers their desire for a proletariat-run state, you said yourself it's only a few people who do the basta[i][/i]rdizing

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I say we start a grass roots forum initiative to get Dark to give Dracoid a custome title. How about Commie Tool?


i'm all for that
#23 Sep 01 2004 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
oh and yanari, come back, i haven't finsihed with you
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#25 Sep 01 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
oh so thats how ya do it, i was wondering how everyone got 'em
#26 Sep 01 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
Hey Drac if Cuba is such a blissfully successful communist state, pack your **** and get on one of the rafts that the Cubans are taking from there to here. I am sure they dont want them to go back.
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