Sooo Yeah ***** all the D icks on this board. I just had some shizznit on my mind and I knew all you **** retentive suns of ******* crabbing about fubar would probably like to flame me for saying anything other than goodbye.
Anyways. Music is a perpetual ******** nowadays. Much like this election is becoming a joke. So I guess I will get the point of my post out of the way and then set into laying down my utterly pointless points and then duck out while nobody is looking.
Either way for some reason, (I guess it is this whole ROCK THE VOTE crap) MTV decides to get the Kerry girls live in person and the Bush girls live VIA satellite. So John kerrys daughters pop out and their is resounding boooooos from all over the joint, no doubt simply because the Kerry girls are just not bling bling enough to cheer for.
So Vanessa and Alexandra start talking about the importance of voting and some our dad is better than your dad shtick then some assanine ******** about all the young americans that are going to make this election happen. (We know good and well Medallion that spin around and look all shiny are what win elections in this moral toilet generation.
Then the Bush girls pop up on the monitors and the crowd goes crazy. Same stuff. Paid public announcement by the office of their father to try and not look like the Boozing, Partying with P. Diddles tramps they really are.
Either way you look at the two of them and you see two things.
Kerrys daughters are prominent social figures (Showing boobies on camera aside) are both seemingly well kept and one is even in harvard medical school.
Bushs daughters... Well I saw them on the front page of the St. Louis post when they got busted in some bar at 19 or something like that.
Ok soo I guess what I am getting at is this braindead country pushing for teenagers and young adults to vote when they most likely have no idea what in the world they are voting for.
I am not voting. Simply because I don't have enough information to cast a vote and have not really seen any heartfelt motivation by either canidate that they want to make a better america for all of us. All I see is the democrats want to be in office so they can laugh at republicans and vice-versa.
Basically what I am asking is, is there anyone else that sees an end to this generation of moral depraivity and endless hordes of no talent musicians??? Or are the rest of most of us with some sort of intelligence doomed to extinction??
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:34:18 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
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Yes, I suspect what with your low sperm count and all, you're doomed to extinction. Sorry 'bout that.
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Quit it with the short wit. I mean I was just talking bout some stuff. Is that all you got. And no I don't need you to come out with a blatant homosexual rant. I just want some of you to not be so miserably predictable.
Give me something else you tard.
Maybe at least flame me on topic.
Edited, Tue Aug 31 22:58:14 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
Give me something else you tard.
Maybe at least flame me on topic.
Edited, Tue Aug 31 22:58:14 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
You know, you're not supposed to get this grumpy until you are well into your seventies. And you are all of what, 16 maybe? The next thing you'll be doing is yelling for them damn kids to get off your lawn. Lighten up, Styles. It's just a message board.
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I am 24, I capitalize whenever I feel like it, and no I did not watch the MTV music awards. I watched like the first hours hoping to see the yeah yeah yeahs and ended up seeing all this other crap.
And no sometimes things don't come out exactly the way I want and for that I apologize. The state of what is deemed relevant by todays standards bothers me a great deal sometimes and I don't know how to cope with it.
Dumbasses are anywhere and everywhere. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore and I feel more and more alone everyday. Don't get me wrong I live a happy life. It just seems like this week and the ever growing threat of world crisis just gets me bent out of shape because there is little to nothing I can do about it. Lord knows I can't really depend of everything being alright.
I just don't want to get cut short because we don't have great quantities of reasonable loving individuals in this world much less in the places that matter.
I don't know forget about what I said. I guess it fell on deaf ears.
I don't know what else I can say.
Oh and I guess I need to respond to the angsty coder.
Look say whatever you like. Interpret what I wrote as whatever you like. Pat yourself on the back whenever you like. I am not trying to be the most organized intelligent poster. I just kind of let that whole post ramble onto the screen, much like I always do. You thinking I have a complex about my ***** makes me think you have an even bigger complex about yours, as I said nothing in my post about d icks other than in the beginning calling someone like you a d ick. That is exactly why I wrote that. Because I knew that someone mightier than though *** reaming ****** would mosey on in here and have to spout on about my intellectual inferiority and proceed to boost his already dwindling self-esteem by trying to stick it to others.
So either way you can waddle away little man because your opinions are of no concern to me. I would hope that maybe one or two of you could possibly decipher my post and maybe give me some insight.
Yes I don't make it a point to read up on current events (as I am more drawn to history) but either way voting really is of no significance to me. Why bother. The right or wrong man is going to get elected by people far more unintelligent than me. Simply because mediums like MTV tell them to.
So who cares right. Might as well follow the leader right???
I thought this was the place for this kind of thing. So infact this is not just a message board but as far as I have seen the only place where far reaching opinions are welcome other than less than desirable places.
Yet it seems the only feedback I can get is from poo poo and pee pee morons that have nothing better to do than to be complete and utter ********.
Anybody care to maybe have a Not so Intelligent rant based discussion on the world today and the current events at hand.....anybody??
Edited, Tue Aug 31 23:31:11 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
And no sometimes things don't come out exactly the way I want and for that I apologize. The state of what is deemed relevant by todays standards bothers me a great deal sometimes and I don't know how to cope with it.
Dumbasses are anywhere and everywhere. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore and I feel more and more alone everyday. Don't get me wrong I live a happy life. It just seems like this week and the ever growing threat of world crisis just gets me bent out of shape because there is little to nothing I can do about it. Lord knows I can't really depend of everything being alright.
I just don't want to get cut short because we don't have great quantities of reasonable loving individuals in this world much less in the places that matter.
I don't know forget about what I said. I guess it fell on deaf ears.
I don't know what else I can say.
Oh and I guess I need to respond to the angsty coder.
Look say whatever you like. Interpret what I wrote as whatever you like. Pat yourself on the back whenever you like. I am not trying to be the most organized intelligent poster. I just kind of let that whole post ramble onto the screen, much like I always do. You thinking I have a complex about my ***** makes me think you have an even bigger complex about yours, as I said nothing in my post about d icks other than in the beginning calling someone like you a d ick. That is exactly why I wrote that. Because I knew that someone mightier than though *** reaming ****** would mosey on in here and have to spout on about my intellectual inferiority and proceed to boost his already dwindling self-esteem by trying to stick it to others.
So either way you can waddle away little man because your opinions are of no concern to me. I would hope that maybe one or two of you could possibly decipher my post and maybe give me some insight.
Yes I don't make it a point to read up on current events (as I am more drawn to history) but either way voting really is of no significance to me. Why bother. The right or wrong man is going to get elected by people far more unintelligent than me. Simply because mediums like MTV tell them to.
So who cares right. Might as well follow the leader right???
I thought this was the place for this kind of thing. So infact this is not just a message board but as far as I have seen the only place where far reaching opinions are welcome other than less than desirable places.
Yet it seems the only feedback I can get is from poo poo and pee pee morons that have nothing better to do than to be complete and utter ********.
Anybody care to maybe have a Not so Intelligent rant based discussion on the world today and the current events at hand.....anybody??
Edited, Tue Aug 31 23:31:11 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
No talent musicians?
Go grab a guitar and show me how well you can do any of the **** they do you f'ucking moron.
Yes, I'll even let you play your Yeah yeah yeah's power chord infested guitar parts.
Go grab a guitar and show me how well you can do any of the **** they do you f'ucking moron.
Yes, I'll even let you play your Yeah yeah yeah's power chord infested guitar parts.
I'm willing to bet "no talent" refers to Britney Spears, Hillary Duff, Good Charlotte, Jessica Simpson, Lil' John, et.al....all of whom were nominated.
My faith in humanity was restored somewhat when Outkast (4 wins), No Doubt (2), and Alicia Keys won over the aforementioned.
Ok I have to agree with those "artists" being non talented. He attacked the whole of music today...so I had to disagree.
I don't know what you are complaining about, I have found that a good latin woman and a bunch of money, will make just about anybody happy.
The rest of what you said has been going on since the dawn of time, this is nothing new, it all comes down to the information generation.
Because of mass media, we now know what is happening all over the place, some can handle it, some can't. Where do you fit in?
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:04:06 2004 by Reinman
The rest of what you said has been going on since the dawn of time, this is nothing new, it all comes down to the information generation.
Because of mass media, we now know what is happening all over the place, some can handle it, some can't. Where do you fit in?
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:04:06 2004 by Reinman
For one thing I am not a dime a dozen guitar player. I am a bassist. And I can lay down some tracks that would make you weep. So don't even think about insulting me in the musical department. That by far is the only thing left in my life that I would call pure.
Lets not even talk about outkast. I have always kind of been a big fan of outkast. I even checked out their show when they were in St. Louis. What did kinda turn me off is when Andre 3000 decides he is some big time musician and actually jumps on top of fender deluxe reverb and plays a ******** of off key notes with his shirt off. Hillary duff is a musician. Paris Hilton is a musician. Lindsey Lohan is a musician. <---Gimmie a break. Punk is for the most part the same spun out **** it was a decade ago.
Neo metal hardcore litters the musical wasteland. And hip hop has become a pestilance.
Trust me I listen to enough music and have been part of some of the greatest musical events of my time. I think I might know a thing or two about where the industry is.
Kids and Adults alike buy this crap up like you would not believe. Talent is no longer a prerequisite to a record deal and you can say the same thing the last guy did and nobody cares.
Let me guess you got pictures of 50 cent up on your wall right.
Lets talk about 50 for a minute. Here is a guy that spent 6 months in prison for god knows what. (I would research it but what is the point. I don't need to know why is was incarcerated to make one) So instead of getting out of prison and maybe repaying debts to society by using this medium that is music to make a positive impact on society he decides it is more prevalent to rap about big pimpin and bottles full of bubb.
Is this the crap you want to be remembered for in the centuries to come. I mean where is our renaissance. Why are we not allowed to be proud. Is our legacy going to be the million and one starbucks on the other corner.
And if you are going to insult me at least give me something suspenseful.
Yeah you know what skip the political ********* No point in even talking about that.
Lets talk about the sorry state of music. Why don't we try to convince eachother that we are surrounded by lyrical geniuses and legitimate composers.
NOPE. It's dollar signs that are what means anything.
Music is in the Pro tools generation. Pop stars don't have to sing anymore. Just wear some see thru clothes and Sync to a back up track. Shake your *** around and take off your shirt.
THATS ENTERTAINMENT.
Ashlee simpson can go straight to a record deal without even having a product. Because her name got her there.
Fat Joe can rap about Leaning back. Sure lets buy that one too. It does not matter that the White Stripes lack all musical talent known to man. Hey Its only a drummer and a Guitar player. Lets sign em. So what if their music sux. It sounds so horrible we can call it revolutionary.
I mean how long is string bikinis and drop top caddies going to be expected to sell the videos and records??
What artistic vision am I supposed to glean from Usher staring at himself in a mirror before he throws a mic stand though it.
Was this supposed to move someone.
Look hip-hop, rock, rap, pop, **** polka. All music is great. Where is the pride anymore?? Oh yeah it is in some garage in a benign neighborhood where it will never get discovered because it is not LA or New York. Get whats hot. Who needs to take chances. Big deal. I would rather own a label and have groups of all kinds I at least respected, and groups sang or rapped or whatevered about whatever that at least hit me in some kind of way other that. "Jesus christ not again." followed by a disgusted 10 point remote control toss across the living room.
Oh hey listen quit calling me names too. It pisses me off. Not because I am sensetive but because you have no idea who you are insulting. Why don't you try to hang in this debate. Or lack thereof. Lets talk about why music is great. Then we can talk about why it actually sucks.
[EDIT]By the way somebody give me some ideas about hosting audio links and I will put up some work I have done in the past.
[EDIT]No I am not trying to flaunt ****. I just don't want you smaller folk having some kind of strange impression that my idea of music is tabbing as many metallica songs as my brain allows.
BTW tab is the devils' handiwork.
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:33:51 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:35:00 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
Lets not even talk about outkast. I have always kind of been a big fan of outkast. I even checked out their show when they were in St. Louis. What did kinda turn me off is when Andre 3000 decides he is some big time musician and actually jumps on top of fender deluxe reverb and plays a ******** of off key notes with his shirt off. Hillary duff is a musician. Paris Hilton is a musician. Lindsey Lohan is a musician. <---Gimmie a break. Punk is for the most part the same spun out **** it was a decade ago.
Neo metal hardcore litters the musical wasteland. And hip hop has become a pestilance.
Trust me I listen to enough music and have been part of some of the greatest musical events of my time. I think I might know a thing or two about where the industry is.
Kids and Adults alike buy this crap up like you would not believe. Talent is no longer a prerequisite to a record deal and you can say the same thing the last guy did and nobody cares.
Let me guess you got pictures of 50 cent up on your wall right.
Lets talk about 50 for a minute. Here is a guy that spent 6 months in prison for god knows what. (I would research it but what is the point. I don't need to know why is was incarcerated to make one) So instead of getting out of prison and maybe repaying debts to society by using this medium that is music to make a positive impact on society he decides it is more prevalent to rap about big pimpin and bottles full of bubb.
Is this the crap you want to be remembered for in the centuries to come. I mean where is our renaissance. Why are we not allowed to be proud. Is our legacy going to be the million and one starbucks on the other corner.
And if you are going to insult me at least give me something suspenseful.
Yeah you know what skip the political ********* No point in even talking about that.
Lets talk about the sorry state of music. Why don't we try to convince eachother that we are surrounded by lyrical geniuses and legitimate composers.
NOPE. It's dollar signs that are what means anything.
Music is in the Pro tools generation. Pop stars don't have to sing anymore. Just wear some see thru clothes and Sync to a back up track. Shake your *** around and take off your shirt.
THATS ENTERTAINMENT.
Ashlee simpson can go straight to a record deal without even having a product. Because her name got her there.
Fat Joe can rap about Leaning back. Sure lets buy that one too. It does not matter that the White Stripes lack all musical talent known to man. Hey Its only a drummer and a Guitar player. Lets sign em. So what if their music sux. It sounds so horrible we can call it revolutionary.
I mean how long is string bikinis and drop top caddies going to be expected to sell the videos and records??
What artistic vision am I supposed to glean from Usher staring at himself in a mirror before he throws a mic stand though it.
Was this supposed to move someone.
Look hip-hop, rock, rap, pop, **** polka. All music is great. Where is the pride anymore?? Oh yeah it is in some garage in a benign neighborhood where it will never get discovered because it is not LA or New York. Get whats hot. Who needs to take chances. Big deal. I would rather own a label and have groups of all kinds I at least respected, and groups sang or rapped or whatevered about whatever that at least hit me in some kind of way other that. "Jesus christ not again." followed by a disgusted 10 point remote control toss across the living room.
Oh hey listen quit calling me names too. It pisses me off. Not because I am sensetive but because you have no idea who you are insulting. Why don't you try to hang in this debate. Or lack thereof. Lets talk about why music is great. Then we can talk about why it actually sucks.
[EDIT]By the way somebody give me some ideas about hosting audio links and I will put up some work I have done in the past.
[EDIT]No I am not trying to flaunt ****. I just don't want you smaller folk having some kind of strange impression that my idea of music is tabbing as many metallica songs as my brain allows.
BTW tab is the devils' handiwork.
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:33:51 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:35:00 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
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I am not voting. Simply because I don't have enough information to cast a vote
Hey, if you want to remove yourself from the democratic process, go for it. But don't act like you're doing something noble because you're too busy whining about the state of American politics to educate yourself enough to cast a ballot.
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Basically what I am asking is, is there anyone else that sees an end to this generation of moral depraivity and endless hordes of no talent musicians??? Or are the rest of most of us with some sort of intelligence doomed to extinction??
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:48:49 2004 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
It just is'nt my thing. Yes though you are correct. Lately I have been trying my hardest to change my views on things. Trust me I read and extract what I can from what I see on these boards.
There is just too much to keep up with it seems. I feel discouraged.
I do respect some of you and your opinions. Alot of what some of you write I do not concern myself with and I pass up. I see alot of good links and I am able to go and get information. I hate to admit but I have actually learned alot from the past week or two I have been hanging out in here. So thanks to some of you.
Anyways I would rather talk about music. That is something I can debate with quite a bit of confidence.
There is just too much to keep up with it seems. I feel discouraged.
I do respect some of you and your opinions. Alot of what some of you write I do not concern myself with and I pass up. I see alot of good links and I am able to go and get information. I hate to admit but I have actually learned alot from the past week or two I have been hanging out in here. So thanks to some of you.
Anyways I would rather talk about music. That is something I can debate with quite a bit of confidence.
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Music as a medium has existed for thousands of years, long before there was any mass marketing, etc. I don't think Ashlee Simpson poses a creditable risk to it.
Every record she sells is a risk to it. Maybe I am being really ANTI about this whole situation. All I know is that it seems like there has been a very pronounced shift in what is being called artistry these days. I for one don't like it.
I just wish there was something I could do about it other than just try to write and perform the best music I can.
It only does me good at the moment.
Thank god that Cinema is still an artform I respect for the "most" part.
Jesus rate me up a little bit. It is not like I don't have some valid points. Don't be so quick to bomb me.
Edited, Wed Sep 1 01:57:21 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
I had no clue you were a bassist, if you are even half as good as you say you are, you would still be nutty.
You came off as one of the regular I-hate-all-music-these days sort of person, and I had to disagree as some of it is great. I don't think you were adressing me when you said I had posters of 50 cent up on my wall...as I just agreed with peewee about those "artists" and their lods of talent....lol
I hate the way the industry just signs the prettiest and ditziest ******* they can get their pasty little hands on while real musicians get stuck in crappy little indie lables that can't give them the exposure they deserve.
You came off as one of the regular I-hate-all-music-these days sort of person, and I had to disagree as some of it is great. I don't think you were adressing me when you said I had posters of 50 cent up on my wall...as I just agreed with peewee about those "artists" and their lods of talent....lol
I hate the way the industry just signs the prettiest and ditziest ******* they can get their pasty little hands on while real musicians get stuck in crappy little indie lables that can't give them the exposure they deserve.
You honestly think that Ms. Simpson selling albums is a risk to "real" music?
What do you think the rank and file were listening to (live, of course) in 1630AD when they got together? It wasn't classical concertos and it wasn't opera -- it was flippant folk songs with no more substance than Ashlee Simpson sings today. Do you think people listening to shallow music like "In A Sweet Canoe With Susy Dearest" in 1930 posed a threat to "real" music? The majority of the population has always enjoyed light, easy to listen to and non-threatening music. And, despite their desires to be viewed as the contrary, most of today's music (including rap, hip-hop, etc) is shallow, easy to listen to and not really threatening. There's always been those who seek more complex music to listen to and enjoy and those people continue to exist today -- probably in about the same proportion to the population as they did three hundred years ago.
What do you think the rank and file were listening to (live, of course) in 1630AD when they got together? It wasn't classical concertos and it wasn't opera -- it was flippant folk songs with no more substance than Ashlee Simpson sings today. Do you think people listening to shallow music like "In A Sweet Canoe With Susy Dearest" in 1930 posed a threat to "real" music? The majority of the population has always enjoyed light, easy to listen to and non-threatening music. And, despite their desires to be viewed as the contrary, most of today's music (including rap, hip-hop, etc) is shallow, easy to listen to and not really threatening. There's always been those who seek more complex music to listen to and enjoy and those people continue to exist today -- probably in about the same proportion to the population as they did three hundred years ago.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I refuse to believe it. Ok lets look at the beetles. They were out and out a pop band. The whole Shabang. They did thier thing. You know what they followed up with. "Yellow Submarine" "Abbey Road" "Hard Days Night" I by no means am a classic rock fan but definately do respect the music that paved the road for all we have today.
You have music, then you have GREAT music. I lived to see the birth of some. Pearl Jam. Megadeth. Bjork.
These were artists. Green day at one point set the standard for Punk music. Well the new standard that is. You know what you are normally supposed to do with standards. Improve upon them. Not rip them off and call them your own.
You know why The Ashlee Simpsons of the music world are threats. Because these days kids have more money. Well these kids spend their money on what they want, and they buy it all. Then what happens. The record companies sell alot of records. So they make more **** to make more money, so on and so forth. This is a very clean cut true statement. look at the quality and quantity of music these days. Tell me I am wrong. As these people keep buying into this junk it says one thing.
"We don't care. Make it popular and we will buy it regardless"
And that is exactly what big wig record execs do. Big Pimpin is in but I am not buying. Straight up.
You have music, then you have GREAT music. I lived to see the birth of some. Pearl Jam. Megadeth. Bjork.
These were artists. Green day at one point set the standard for Punk music. Well the new standard that is. You know what you are normally supposed to do with standards. Improve upon them. Not rip them off and call them your own.
You know why The Ashlee Simpsons of the music world are threats. Because these days kids have more money. Well these kids spend their money on what they want, and they buy it all. Then what happens. The record companies sell alot of records. So they make more **** to make more money, so on and so forth. This is a very clean cut true statement. look at the quality and quantity of music these days. Tell me I am wrong. As these people keep buying into this junk it says one thing.
"We don't care. Make it popular and we will buy it regardless"
And that is exactly what big wig record execs do. Big Pimpin is in but I am not buying. Straight up.
I think your biggest problem is that you're in your twenties, and still watching MTV. That's not an insult; it's just that network is marketed to 14 year olds, really. Most kids that age seem to prefer style over substance, and their sense of style naturally sucks.
MTV has always functioned this way. I was a kid when it first broadcast (80-81, somewhere around there) and I loved it, yet looking back, I see that it was a ****-fest, just like it is today.
Only difference is that back then, they were playing Duran Duran, Lionel Ritchie, Poison (what a mix, but that's how it was) and other bands at least as bad as anyone out there today.
So, instead of throwing your remote, use it. Change the channel.
MTV has always functioned this way. I was a kid when it first broadcast (80-81, somewhere around there) and I loved it, yet looking back, I see that it was a ****-fest, just like it is today.
Only difference is that back then, they were playing Duran Duran, Lionel Ritchie, Poison (what a mix, but that's how it was) and other bands at least as bad as anyone out there today.
So, instead of throwing your remote, use it. Change the channel.
Well, seeing as music is a widely spread field, and every one has there own taste in music, we truly do not know who is actually a bad singer or not. Ashlee simpson: People think she got popular over her sister, I agree somewhat, the Simpson name sure did help her.
Hmm...Well, we all have our tastes in music, but if someone had "no talent" they wouldnt be selling that many records....
I agree that some people find it that way, but I find some artists very talented, and some are not that popular. Though some people buy albums for the popularity ethnics of it, I do not.
The quality of music has gone down. People have gone from singing wonderful songs that are broad, and can inspire you, unlike todays songs such as "Lean back" and "Yeah" I am young, and do no find these songs good in any way. But, like I said everyone has there own tastes in music.
If a hot new artist comes out and is attractive, rich, and has connections, you can expect this artist to sell a lot of records. Today's values have been dramatically changed, but I do still find a few people out there who do appreciate the artist for there music and not how popular they are.
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I'm willing to bet "no talent" refers to Britney Spears, Hillary Duff, Good Charlotte, Jessica Simpson, Lil' John, et.al....all of whom were nominated.
Hmm...Well, we all have our tastes in music, but if someone had "no talent" they wouldnt be selling that many records....
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You know why The Ashlee Simpsons of the music world are threats. Because these days kids have more money. Well these kids spend their money on what they want, and they buy it all. Then what happens. The record companies sell alot of records. So they make more sh*t to make more money, so on and so forth. This is a very clean cut true statement. look at the quality and quantity of music these days. Tell me I am wrong. As these people keep buying into this junk it says one thing.
"We don't care. Make it popular and we will buy it regardless"
"We don't care. Make it popular and we will buy it regardless"
I agree that some people find it that way, but I find some artists very talented, and some are not that popular. Though some people buy albums for the popularity ethnics of it, I do not.
The quality of music has gone down. People have gone from singing wonderful songs that are broad, and can inspire you, unlike todays songs such as "Lean back" and "Yeah" I am young, and do no find these songs good in any way. But, like I said everyone has there own tastes in music.
If a hot new artist comes out and is attractive, rich, and has connections, you can expect this artist to sell a lot of records. Today's values have been dramatically changed, but I do still find a few people out there who do appreciate the artist for there music and not how popular they are.
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I think your biggest problem is that you're in your twenties, and still watching MTV. That's not an insult; it's just that network is marketed to 14 year olds, really. Most kids that age seem to prefer style over substance, and their sense of style naturally sucks.
I agree 100% MTV is networked for teenagers, and teenagers like that music. In time, I will look back and think of that music as garbage, but for now some of it is "decently pleasent."
That is a misconception. You will find me watching more Trio and Fuse than anything else if I am watching anything at all. Other than Discover Times. Simple fact is I like to move with the times. My father listens to music from his day and mine. The problem is there is less and less music to move with in the present.
It makes me sad and to my neverending embarrasement enraged.
I can also say with a little bit of conviction that MTV was not what it is today. MTV used to be on the forefront of music. MTV was a revolution. In a day where information is so readily available they choose to exploit it instead of embrace it.
Now real music takes a back seat to popularity.
The VMAs of old offered a totally fresh experience. Music from all genres. I mean do any of you remember "Walk this way" with RUN DMN and Aerosmith. Red Hot chili peppers "Give It Away" I mean a dude in a clown suit with a furry ***** hanging out of the crotch. While probably the equivalent of what we have today it was more of a message than the calamity of awards shows these days.
The Grammys though still hold much of the prestige they used too.
I wonder if most of my problems spawn from just being dissapointed in where the next generation is headed.
Nobody really thinks for themselves anymore.
Either way being an aspiring musician myself and doing alot of studio work for undiscovered Solo Artists here in St. Louis I would at least like to think that there will be a place for talented people in the future other than just Niche places we must claw at to reach.
Hah I also thought it was just a rumor that the CellPhone tribute was actually the real deal. Then I saw hundreds of lit up LCD screens to a song that was so far from a tribute like that it was not even funny.
I think they were doing it to Lil' John and the East side boyz.
Edited, Wed Sep 1 02:50:27 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
It makes me sad and to my neverending embarrasement enraged.
I can also say with a little bit of conviction that MTV was not what it is today. MTV used to be on the forefront of music. MTV was a revolution. In a day where information is so readily available they choose to exploit it instead of embrace it.
Now real music takes a back seat to popularity.
The VMAs of old offered a totally fresh experience. Music from all genres. I mean do any of you remember "Walk this way" with RUN DMN and Aerosmith. Red Hot chili peppers "Give It Away" I mean a dude in a clown suit with a furry ***** hanging out of the crotch. While probably the equivalent of what we have today it was more of a message than the calamity of awards shows these days.
The Grammys though still hold much of the prestige they used too.
I wonder if most of my problems spawn from just being dissapointed in where the next generation is headed.
Nobody really thinks for themselves anymore.
Either way being an aspiring musician myself and doing alot of studio work for undiscovered Solo Artists here in St. Louis I would at least like to think that there will be a place for talented people in the future other than just Niche places we must claw at to reach.
Hah I also thought it was just a rumor that the CellPhone tribute was actually the real deal. Then I saw hundreds of lit up LCD screens to a song that was so far from a tribute like that it was not even funny.
I think they were doing it to Lil' John and the East side boyz.
Edited, Wed Sep 1 02:50:27 2004 by Thenaturalstyles
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MTV used to be on the forefront of music. MTV was a revolution.
Yep, it created the music scene that you currently hate.
Jindo wrote:
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MTV used to be on the forefront of music. MTV was a revolution.
Yep, it created the music scene that you currently hate.
Not that I hate. I still am able to find my diamonds in the rough. Just like it has always been. I just have never been soo bombarded with junk as I am today. That is what I hate.
And NOO MTV did not create the music scene. Music back then was still music. MTV just felt so passionately about getting some of this great stuff out there so more people could see it. Kinda like a hippie grass roots movement. MTV was no big digs in the beginning.
Call me a traditionalist but I think that companies need to be more responsible with what they put out there. I mean money is all fine and good but at the expense of integrity and the creative process. Seems so wrong to me.
Jophiel are smrt.
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You have music, then you have GREAT music. I lived to see the birth of some. Pearl Jam. Megadeth. Bjork.
These were artists. Green day at one point set the standard for Punk music. Well the new standard that is. You know what you are normally supposed to do with standards. Improve upon them. Not rip them off and call them your own.
These were artists. Green day at one point set the standard for Punk music. Well the new standard that is. You know what you are normally supposed to do with standards. Improve upon them. Not rip them off and call them your own.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
No. I by no means meant music that I like. I am fairly undereducated in the classical arts. Other than the fairly popular ones. Thankyou very much for your link. I am always interested in checking out a pulitzer prize winner for music lol.
Yes. You were right to make that comment though about the few artists I listed. I was wrong to make such a limited statement. I would say forget it ever happened but we all know that it never happened.
My previous comments still hold true though. I won't be making personal comment about music I like because that really holds no water, and honestly was not what I meant to be talking about anyway.
Sorry.
Yes. You were right to make that comment though about the few artists I listed. I was wrong to make such a limited statement. I would say forget it ever happened but we all know that it never happened.
My previous comments still hold true though. I won't be making personal comment about music I like because that really holds no water, and honestly was not what I meant to be talking about anyway.
Sorry.
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