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#1 Aug 31 2004 at 7:06 PM Rating: Good
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In case anyone is remotely interested:

Chicago Tribune wrote:
Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss scholar known for his work on Islamic theology and the place of Muslims in the modern world, was supposed to start teaching last week at the University of Notre Dame. But after he got a visa from the State Department, it was revoked at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security, which apparently sees him as a danger.


Some critics regard him as an anti-Semitic apologist for extremism. Among them is Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, who wrote in Sunday's Tribune to accuse Ramadan of connections with Al Qaeda, denying Osama bin Laden's role in the Sept. 11 attacks and defending the March terrorist bombing in Madrid.


On today's Commentary page, Ramadan rebuts the charges.



His rebuttal does a pretty good job of refuting every claim made against him, assuming the facts can be verified.


I'm all for vigilant background checks for people applying for visas, but sometimes they pull some real boners.


You might have to register to read it, but it's free.
#2 Aug 31 2004 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
I had an interesting debate with my stepdad this weekend. We were discussing the Israeli spy that got his *** handed to him recently. My stepfather (being a devout unquestioning good chritianboy) Was talking about how "Well the Israelis are our friends because they are a people of the Book."

To which I had to reply, "That's probably exactly the response they expect from you though, thats why they get away with this."

To which he replied "But the Israelis are the only friends we have in that region."

To which I responded, "Probably the reason that is is because we allow the Israelis to get away with beforementioned behaviour."

The look in his eyes was interesting. It's easy to pick up the book and wave it unquestionably through life. It's another to realize that some people will use your faith to bleed you dry...

So what does this have to do with this guy?? I think that having something bad to say about the israelis doesn't qualify you as a terrorist. As long as you don't incite violence there is never a problem with dissention.
#3 Aug 31 2004 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
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Warlord Lefein wrote:
I had an interesting debate with my stepdad this weekend. We were discussing the Israeli spy that got his *** handed to him recently. My stepfather (being a devout unquestioning good chritianboy) Was talking about how "Well the Israelis are our friends because they are a people of the Book."


Um... Aren't Muslims just as much "people of the book" as Jews?

They at least recognize Jesus as a prophet. The Jews don't. I'm a bit curious how your stepdad makes that kind of distinction.
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#4 Aug 31 2004 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
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a people of the Book


The phrase comes from the Koran, talking about Christians and Jews by the way.
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#5 Sep 01 2004 at 1:43 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:


Um... Aren't Muslims just as much "people of the book" as Jews?


Not in the eyes of fundamentalist christians and jews.
#6 Sep 01 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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The look in his eyes was interesting. It's easy to pick up the book and wave it unquestionably through life. It's another to realize that some people will use your faith to bleed you dry...


I always knew there were benefits to not having any faith.
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