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#52 Sep 01 2004 at 4:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Gbaji-

You are either in complete denial or you are a liar. Either way you have absolutely no credibility, so save your breath.

History will prove me right.

GFY you party hack.
#53 Sep 01 2004 at 4:40 AM Rating: Good
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You are either in complete denial or you are a liar. Either way you have absolutely no credibility, so save your breath.

History will prove me right.

GFY you party hack.



Wait! Let me see if I've got this right. I make an argument about a cause and effect relationship between the war on terror, the war in Iraq, and the resulting concessions by Gaddafi on WMD and terrorists. I write several paragraphs detailing the relationship and why I believe one is directly related to the other. I then post a link that supports my argument.

Smash refuses to post any support for a counter. He refuses to even argue *why* they aren't related. He refuses to give any logical explantion for the actions of Gaddafi that would counter my argument. And he refuses to provide any supporting evidence for his position. He just insists that I'm wrong.

And *I'm* in denial?


Why should I expect anything else from someone who posted a whole page full of nothing but unfounded innuendo. On the same topic, I've asked you for sources for your claims several times and you've refused to provide them as well. At what point did just thinking you were right become "proof"? When did just making claims become all that there is to an argument?


Dunno. I think it's a sad statement about the world we live in when that's what passes for debate.
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#54 Sep 01 2004 at 4:47 AM Rating: Default
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Dunno. I think it's a sad statement about the world we live in when that's what passes for debate.


I think it's sad that you measure the effectiveness of an argument by verbosity.


I write several paragraphs detailing the relationship and why I believe one is directly related to the other.


Yes, and unfortunately, unlike anyone else on this board, I actually read that tripe.


I then post a link that supports my argument.


Yes a link from a radical pro-Arab anti-US whacko whose paper was posted to an obscure mailing list.

I can post links that support the argument that the Holocaust never happened. Doesn't mean people that believe that to be true aren't in denial however.

Boy, you really are slow, huh? There's still part of me that's convinced it's an act, but that part grows smaller every day.
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#55 Sep 01 2004 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Lets just say I agree with Ron Reagan ore than with you, shall we Gbaji?
#56 Sep 01 2004 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
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Smasharoo wrote:

Dunno. I think it's a sad statement about the world we live in when that's what passes for debate.


I think it's sad that you measure the effectiveness of an argument by verbosity.


No. I measure the effectiveness of an arguement based on how well the arguer uses facts and logic to suport his position.

You seem to use namecalling and nitpicking of irrelevancies as yours. How's that working out for you?

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I then post a link that supports my argument.


Yes a link from a radical pro-Arab anti-US whacko whose paper was posted to an obscure mailing list.


Here's another link to the same story.

Odd that a rabid anti-american would credit the US's policies with forcing Gaddafi to change his policies. You'd think he'd be yelling and screaming about the unfairness of it all, and how a loyal patriot to the cause has been unfairly singled out, or some other such garbage.

I also find it really intesting that you constantly harp on how the US perspective is so wrong with regards to the Middle East, and yet when I use a source that is from the region, you dismiss it out of hand. I guess it's ok to use Arabs as support when you can portray them as poor downtrodden people being oppressed by the evil US, but if one should say something you don't agree with, he's automatically "rabid".

Wow. Double standard much?


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I can post links that support the argument that the Holocaust never happened. Doesn't mean people that believe that to be true aren't in denial however.


You talk about what you "could do" a whole lot Smash. How about you actually back it up this time?

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Boy, you really are slow, huh? There's still part of me that's convinced it's an act, but that part grows smaller every day.



Yup. Keep tossing out the namecalling Smash. You're proving my point for me. I'll say it again. Your methods impress the hell out of 10 year olds, and may even work on some readers on this forum (given the state of US education). They doesn't work on me. Try actually using real arguments sometime instead of always falling back on namecalling and "yelling".
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#57 Sep 01 2004 at 5:22 AM Rating: Good
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Meadros wrote:
Lets just say I agree with Ron Reagan ore than with you, shall we Gbaji?


Wow. He's become quite the conspiracy theorist.

Read it again. This time note which parts of statements are actual quotes (and what they actually contain), and which parts are added by him to "color" the language.

It's good writing, I'll admit. And designed to persuade people. But it's very long on innuendo and very short on fact.

But I guess many people have gotten used to being convinced of things based on innuendo alone...
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#58 Sep 01 2004 at 5:22 AM Rating: Default
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Look, whatever makes you happy.

I'm at the point of humoring you here. I made it clear before that I wasn't intrested in debating an identical topic twice, linking the same source documents twice, and reading an idnetical reaction from you.

When something new happens in relation to Lybia, let me know and I'll be happy to go over it again and explain it to you again.

Untill then, whatever it is you think you're correct about, fine, whatever.

A paper written by a guy with a masters degree from American U, Cairo is the foremost expert on the subject and his word is gospel.

Holocaust denial is a viable historical theory and people who write papers supporting it are also experts and their word is gospel as well.

Your argument is uqually valid with that of holocaust denial.
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#59 Sep 01 2004 at 5:23 AM Rating: Default
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I'll say it again. Your methods impress the hell out of 10 year olds, and may even work on some readers on this forum (given the state of US education). They doesn't work on me


That may be the funniest thing I've seen all year.

I'm glad you is more edumacated than the average forum poster and that they doesn't work on you.

Funny ****.

Incidentally, the truest sign that someone on this board is loosing an argument with me is when they atttempt to grab some sort of moral high ground because I make fun of them.

Welcome to the forum, ******** the whole point of it is making fun of people WHILE arguing with them.

If you want a civil debate, let me know and we'll set something up with a moderator.

Hey, on a serious note, I'll be in San Diego in January. You should let me buy you a drink and share a good laugh over this stuff.

Edited, Wed Sep 1 06:27:33 2004 by Smasharoo
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#60 Sep 01 2004 at 5:27 AM Rating: Good
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Lol Whatever Smash.

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I made it clear before that I wasn't intrested in debating an identical topic twice, linking the same source documents twice, and reading an idnetical reaction from you.


Not true by a long shot. You made it abundantly clear that you were willing to argue the point right up until I challenged you to actually provide evidence to counter mine. Then you folded like a cheap lawn chair and started making excuses.

That you continued to argue the point sans-support is just more bizarreness from you. It's almost like you believed your lack of support was all the proof needed.

Can I make a suggestion? Next time, if you really don't feel like providing supporting documentation for your argument, it might be a good idea to not actually say something like "If you want, I can find X number of papers that support my position".

It just looks really bad to say that and then refuse to do it, don't you think?
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#61 Sep 01 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Default
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It just looks really bad to say that and then refuse to do it, don't you think?


Yeah, not so much. Particularly when anyone could type in "Smasharoo Gbaji Lybia" into the forum search engine and have a look at it.

I'm just lazy, and frankly not very concerned about looking bad in this argument, considering the single whacky source you linked.
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#62 Sep 01 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Good
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hehe.

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Incidentally, the truest sign that someone on this board is loosing an argument with me is when they atttempt to grab some sort of moral high ground because I make fun of them.


That's really funny. To me, the surest sign that someone on this board is losing an argument is when the start making fun of someone.

There's a sort of balance to that I think... ;)


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Hey, on a serious note, I'll be in San Diego in January. You should let me buy you a drink and share a good laugh over this stuff.


I may just take you up on that. We'll see how thins are hanging in Jan.
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#63 Sep 01 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey, Gbaji, I also agree with that Pope guy more than I agree with you, also.
#64 Sep 01 2004 at 5:31 AM Rating: Default
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I may just take you up on that. We'll see how thins are hanging in Jan.


Ok, let me know.

I'm actually quite charming and civil in person. Ask Totem.
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#65 Sep 01 2004 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Or how about that Walter Cronkite? Is he a conspiracy theorist too?
#66 Sep 01 2004 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Ok. Now I can't resist:

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Hey, Gbaji, I also agree with that Pope guy more than I agree with you, also.


So you're saying that you believe that condoms are a sin? Heck. The official word on even timing sex to avoid fertile periods (yeah, gogo double entendre!) is that it's wrong since the purpose of sex is procreation.

There are a whole mess of things I disagree with the Pope on (I am a reformed Catholic after all). I'm reasonably sure that the war in Iraq is probably the only point that you agree with him on, and everything else you'd agree with me on.

But who's taking sides? He's got a really cool ride...
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#67 Sep 01 2004 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Bruce Springsteen

Ten Nobel prize winning economists

GHWB

shall I go on? Who are the nutjobs here, Gbaji?
#68 Sep 01 2004 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Iraq is probably the only point that you agree with him on, and everything else you'd agree with me on.


Maybe it hasn't sunk in yet, but I think you are wholly full of ****. I'd find more common ground with Joe McCarthy than with you.
#69 Sep 01 2004 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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Meadros wrote:
Bruce Springsteen

Ten Nobel prize winning economists

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shall I go on? Who are the nutjobs here, Gbaji?


And aside from maybe Springsteen (who's incidentally the least qualified to have an opinion of any greater value then anyone else in the list), not one of those people refute the statement I've made in any way. So we pull out completely irrelevant issues and statements?

Find me a reliable source that claims that the war on Iraq had nothing to do with the concessions we're seeing come from Gaddafi.
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#70 Sep 01 2004 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
Remember back in World War 2 when everyone was ******** about the economy? Back then people definitely voted with their wallets..... <cough>
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