Smasharoo wrote:
So, we either conclude that something like 80% of the entire Republican voting block is filled up with "suckers", or we have to conclude that maybe that line of thinking is false, and there's more to the party then the hardline position tossed out there by the Dems as an easy strawman to argue against.
The Strawman is called the Republican Party Platform.
You should perhaps consider reading it, sometime, seeing as you're voting for them and all.
I don't think 80% of the Republican voting block are sucjers, more along the lines of 30%.
Yet oddly, you have a hard time finding that 70% who fit your "vision" of what the Republican party "really is" according to Smasharoo.
Hmmm...
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There're the poor and lower middle class people who don't want thier money going to Welfare, then there are the jack off on a flag people who see the GOP as tough guys, then there are people like you, middle class workers who think they're benefiting from tax cuts for the ultra rich who end up paying the tab for the tax cuts a few years down the line.
Ah. Or maybe they understand that success should be earned rather then given. Maybe they also honestly accept that if the work they do is worth X amount per hour in wages, then that what they should earn.
Maybe they also understand that the Republican party policies mean that if they are successful, they'll actually get to keep most of what they earn instead of having to give it away to others.
If it was just about doing what's best for you, then we'd all be voting based on our own greed Smash. That may be the Dem position (you're poor, and we're going to help you), but the Rep party line is a whole different dynamic Smash. We do what we believe is the right thing, not just the thing that benefits us personally the most.
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If you want to understand who you are voting for when you vote for Bush, take a look at his Judicial appointments. They are all informed by a clear Crhistian Right true believer.
Really?! Which explains why the leaders of the Methodist Church, of which Bush is a member, have publically condemned the war in Iraq?
If he's the religious right wing nut, but anyone who disagrees with his policies are just people who aren't in the know, or in the power structure, then exactly who's religious policies is he following?
Your argument's starting to look a bit squirrely about here Smash.
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Bush spends a tremendous amount of government money, causes a massive debt, runs the most secretive Excuate in history and supports a far right Christian agenda.
See statement above. Same thing. Who's religious agenda is he pushing if they don't agree with everything he's doing?
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He's not a moderate. His father was. If this election was between Kerry and Bush Sr. it'd be an average contest where the outcome wasn't terribly important. That's not the case, however.
Take the blinders off.
Sucker.
Yup. Here we go again.
So let me get this straight. We've got this mysterious group of Republican leaders who are doing things for their own benefit, but not for those who vote for them, and just suckering those voting blocks while they pursue their own agenda instead.
So they lie to the military voting block because Bush, you know, slacked off in the national guard instead of serving. And hey. They're actually putting US soldiers in harms way, and who wants to die in a war, right?
And they're lying to the religious right, cause they allowed them to believe that he was their guy, but then he does a bunch of stuff they don't agree with either.
And they're lying to the fiscal conservatives because his economic plan doesn't match standard supply side economics.
And that's not to mention all the Republicans who don't agree with Supply side concepts in the first place (Eisenhower'd be rolling in his grave, right?).
And all those Republicans who aren't part of the religious right, well they get screwed because he's clearly going to push for overturning Roe v Wade, and getting prayer back in school like it belongs.
Um. Smash. Exactly what *is* the agenda if it's not any of those things at all?
Ever think that maybe there's just a broad set of people who are Republican, and the party policies reflect a little bit of all of them?
Yeah. That kinda makes more sense, doesn't it?