Strike two for Partial Birth Abortion BanFollow

You're the affluent white liberal. Not many other reasons for it.

You're the affluent white liberal. Not many other reasons for it.


Not many reasons for being white, affluent and liberal but white guilt? Christ, someone should probably let my rasiscst union relatives know that they shouldn't be liberal anymore.

I think you glossed over a key word here. Not misstated. Apparently misunderstood.

Perhaps I wasn't clear in my own assumptions as I am not as familiar with medical procedures as some others here. I am making the assumption that only previously approved procedures are being discussed. I assume that there is a mechanism in place where there is periodic review of a sampling of cases to ensure compliance with those practices. Am I incorrect in my assumptions?
When they have their consultations with their doctors and follow up with some homework and/or get a second opinion.

Is it your contention that doctors are simply going to start telling women in their third trimester of pregnancy "well dear, this baby's going to kill you, but I can make it all better by giving you this abortion."?

Assuming there are doctors so heartless and unscrupulous as to have money be their overriding motivator, wouldn't bringing pregnancies to term and delivering the babies be more profitable?

He's not White.

He's Celtic.

Look, I am not saying there are any number of doctors out there who would perform partial birth abortions beyond what the mother's medical condition calls for, but the danger lies in for a politically motivated doctor to provide such a service. It is not unheard of where doctors perform abortions to the virtual exclusion of all other gynocological procedures, be that due to the scarctiy of other abortionists or due to their political motivations, I don't know. But in such cases, medical oversight-- as with every other type of medical procedure --is needed, whether or not it is provided with the current medical governing guidelines. I am not expressing a desire for a specific committee to watch over abortionists, just that any who might otherwise take advantage of their position and license are governed by an independent panel of peer reviewers.

Lastly, to answer Smash's concern that the inherent risk would possibly criminalize partial birth abortions, I'd say that if there was no risk it is likely the procedure is unwarranted. If I am misunderstanding what you are saying, please clarify this for me.

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Lastly, to answer Smash's concern that the inherent risk would possibly criminalize partial birth abortions, I'd say that if there was no risk it is likely the procedure is unwarranted. If I am misunderstanding what you are saying, please clarify this for me.

I'm saying all of the precautions you're concerned about allready exist. If you don't think there should be a specefic board for this one procedure then I'm confused at what you're proposing, I guess.

As to doctors who preform "unnessicary" aboritons, the point is that it's better to err on the side of caution when the life of the mother is potnetially at stake.

The truth is, I don't know how much oversight there is when it comes to abortions, particularly in regards to private clinics not associated with hospital networks. There may be states where there are no governing entities or there may be a national one-- I just don't know.

State by state.

This doctor would be performing these abortions to demonstrate that he can?

Is that what you're saying? Honestly I'm just not following this train of thought.

I guess this highlights my concern that a particular doctor could open a practice based off of political beliefs to provide late term abortions under the guise of the mother's life being at stake, just by darkening his doorstep.


You'll never be able to establish that, regardless, if the mother wants the abortion.

There's no way for an ex post facto review of a subjective report of the situation that led to the procedure. Even if you could, you'd just see more "misscarriges".

It's impossible to regulate risk to the mother objectively unless you're standing in the room with her.

No, a doctor believing so fervently in the right to choose opens a clinic expressly to give women the opportunity to have abortions upon demand. We have such a clinic right next door to where I work.



Does it have a big sign saying "Third Trimester abortions FREE! Plecenta dinner salad with coupon!"

Be it a Rape related pregnancy or whatever the reason these babies in whatever stage of pregnancy should have the right.

What about sperm?

Don't they have rights? All of them are potentially a person.

I think we should try any male who *********** a mass murderer.

Manslaughter for wet dreams, naturally, no intent.

Did something happen to this thread. Why is there all this banned junk??