Strike two for Partial Birth Abortion BanFollow

I think single mothers who already have 3 children and are on multiple support options should have 2 more children at least. I mean, they are the smartest people on the planet, infact.

So I say keep abortion fully legal, maybe even extent it to smashing their heads during the birth process. Why not? It is that very intelligent women's choice to keep the baby or not, so let's give her that choice. Why stop there. If her crack money runs out, let's let'em whack a 1 yr. old because his/her diaper money is cutting into "Friday Night" slutfest at the local bar with mommy's girlfriends. Sounds fair to me.

I like letting people out of their responsibilities and giving every ******* moron in the country a way out. That is why I love America. The land of the free and home of the ******* irresponsible. Why use birth control? It's just this once! And my neighbor's little sister's best freind-in-law said it was OK 'cause she did it. Well, good enough for me. Keep ******* unprotected and sucking the brains outta unborn children. I mean, it is your choice.

Ohh, we're rating on the Asylum now...good.




Edited, Fri Aug 27 15:05:52 2004 by Trizzoro

Thanks Rex...

Although 20 weeks is still a far cry from the third trimester. One would have to carry for another 8 weeks (or more) and then decide that it's time to terminate the pregnancy. I don't understand this. If there are medical complications and they are severe enough that a woman would decide to terminate her pregnancy, wouldn't you want to do it right away? At 20 weeks? Why wait longer?

Also, I was offered all those types of tests at 18 weeks and declined to have them done because I am not in an at-risk category. The doctor told me that there are many "false positives" in fetal testing before birth and really it boiled down to what I would do with the news that my child-to-be had complications.

As for the rest of you baby massacring liberals, explain to me the difference between a viable baby in the womb that can be killed and one that has been born ten minutes ago, outside of the "Well, it's been born now, duh!" responses. If the only separation between a human being with rights and a piece of meat that is an inconvenience worthy only of murder is a pair of pu55y lips and the clock on the delivery room wall, then we are literally only minutes away from the Red China's one child per household culture where unwanted girl babies and other "defective" children are left to die on top of the garbage at the city dump.

Totem

PS: And RACK Moeb for his first post on this thread.

Ahh, throw it away because it might not be perfect. Good argument. My son is living proof that it goes the other way too. Conditions may also subsequently resolve themselves.

I'm happy that things worked out for you and your son, I truly am.

However, if medical science suggests that the birth of the baby in any form poses a serious threat to the mother's health, then I at least think that she, and ideally her husband, should have the choice to abort the baby.

I imagine that many mothers would choose to give birth to the baby regardless, but I think the choice should be there.

Faced with the alternative of a father losing his wife and possibly unborn child, I have to give them the choice.

I do not agree with aborting the fetus in anything but the first trimester if it is simply and unwanted pregnancy.

But, I'm not going to say that a child's life is more valuable than a mother's life.

I work with the father of a strictly Catholic family, and they have ten children. The mother and father are some of the most loving parents I know.

I also know the mother will be pregnant again soon (strictly Catholic), and if a situation were to occur where her health was seriously threatened by the birth of the child, she would most likely give birth to the child, though I don't believe it would be in her best interest, or the interest of her other children, to do so.

To me, this is literally a case by case determination, but I firmly believe that the choice should be there.

Your inability to accept a situation where the abortion of the child is in the best interest of all parties involved truly baffles me.

But once it becomes viable, how can a rational, responsible human being deny that it is incumbent on us as a people to protect it?

Once the unborn child becomes a significant threat to the mother's health, how can a rational, responsible human being deny that it is incumbent on us as a people to protect the mother?

Yanari wrote:



This is a complete croc of sh*t....You do realize men play a huge role in raising kids, even if it only be financial and that's a burden men that impregnate women have to deal with. Do you even realize how many people in county are locked up for not paying child support? So don't give me this women have the main responsibility of raising a kid line when it's the men that are funding their upbringing.

Varus

I would ask that everyone please ignore Varus and continue the discussion as if he never posted.

Well then, I'd have to wonder why these women who are so disadvantaged with regard to pre-natal care suddenly get very good "abortive" care. I think that's a stretch, Rex. Sure, maybe there are some women who fly under the radar and suddenly they need a late term abortion. I can't believe for a second that number is more than the number of women who simply choose to do it later.

I figured it, Sheebasaurusrex. So incidentally, is there some kind of I-am-purposefully-making-myself-unattractive culture among lesbos where they intentionally strive to horseface themselves up for each other or is it just dumb bad luck that they all ended up fugly? Seriously, I was in SF last night and even as a straight man I can say there are some handsome gay dudes, but the women? Uh-uh, not a one. I mean, there has to be some kind of self loathing going on for these women to go and try to find other women whose grills resemble car wrecks.

I don't get it.

Totem

Well, see, we hate men so much we figure if we're butt ugly they won't hit on us and try to play with our fun bags.

This is not only hilarious, but may be true! Truth is, in fact, Stranger than Fiction.

Since when is the desire to live selfish under any circumstances? I can see how sacrificing your life can be the right thing to do towards a better end, but "selfish"...no.

And just to clarify, you'd rather your wife die and have to raise the baby to be a bumbling republican idiot by yourself? Or would your just mail-order a bride from Asia to help you out afterwords...I'm just curious.

Are you a medical doctor, Moe? In what way are you qualified to state that there are no instances where a late term abortion may be advised? The medical community can't even seem to agree on this issue.