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Now, what else can we throw at them?

It still puzzles me how the supporters of someone who actively avoided going to vietnam can attack the record of someone who did go, twice.

Yeah, but I can do it with wit and whimsy. And since Varrus is a tool do the links he posts really count anyway?

Yes, I realize he is a tool who espouses right wing beliefs, but a tool none the less.

Fantastic. When do you start?

it's a poll in California and we all know they're just a bunch of tree-hugging hippies.

The poll was nation-wide.

Not that it matters. It's just a poll and we all know how accurate they are.

Polls are pretty useless until they lock up some more states. Until then, it's a race. I think they each have under 200 electoral votes locked up. Most other states are too close to call.

Big events could swing things either way at this point. Barring any of those, we know who will win.

It still puzzles me how the supporters of someone who actively avoided going to vietnam can attack the record of someone who did go, twice.

All of these attacks seem rather poorly executed. They should have concentrated on his actions after the war, rather than his service during the war.

Doing that brings into question not only his service record, but those of other vets who fought alongside him. I don't think that's a good strategy to essentially call into question the service of Vietnam veterans.

If you can show what he thought he did was wrong, that would cast him in a much more negative light than saying his service wasn't heroic. Just my opinion.

I wouldn't have been surprised if Kerry-supporters were the ones financing the Swift boat ads, seeing how the attacks were made.

Sorry man. You seem to have the task of Varrus-clone locked up. You're on your own for this one

By hook or by crook....

FTFY

Eh? I don't see it that way. The thing is that Bush has never denied his role during that conflict. Yup. He served in the National Guard. Yup. We all know it was a unit that wealthy people sent their kids to and he was very unlikely to ever see combat.

Get over it. Bush has not made any issue of his military service. He's not tried to play himself off as a war hero.

Kerry and Kerry's people *made* their respective military services an issue. That's why people will look into Kerry's record. What other choice are they given? If you're going to critisize one candidate for joining the national guard while the other served in a war zone, then of course the other guys are going to go through your candidates war record with a fine toothed comb to see if anything shakes loose.


If you come out of the blocks crowing about how your guy has this great military career, and the other guy doesn't, you can expect that people are going to examine that career. Why expect differently?

this for me is proof that he is unfit to take power, chances are he wouldn't be alive if his dad wasn't loaded.

the point isn't that he skipped service, its tht he skipped it and then takes the **** out of kerry because he didn't do as well as bush would have if he'd have been out there.

It's not like he flew a fighter onto an aircraft carrier so they could all take pictures of him in his flightsuit as he told us "Mission accomplished" or anything.

This is nit-pickey, but he didn't land the aircraft. He was aboard the plane. It takes a small measure of skill to land on an aircraft carrier.

Notably much less than running a country well.

Supposedly he flew the aircraft a brief time during transit, although I imagine one of the other two pilots just hit autopilot then told him to keep her steady.

Bah. Was busy with this thing called "work" yesterday.



You're absolutely right. It's not like he did that at all.

He didn't fly a fighter onto an aircraft carrier. He didn't perform the landing, and it wasn't a fighter. It was an S-3B Viking.

Yes. They did get pictures of him in a flight suit. Oddly, Bush doesn't look like a dork when wearing a flightsuit, unlike another politician riding around in a tank...

He didn't tell anyone "Mission Accomplished". It was a message printed on a banner on the Lincoln. Furthermore, the banner message was the Navy's idea, and was not intended to convey that we were "done" in Iraq, but that the Lincoln's mission was accomplished. At the time, the lincoln had been at sea for 290 days, the longest deployment ever for a nuclear powered carrier. Um. And they were one day from port. Think about it.


But hey! Let's not let fact get in the way of really good innuendo...

Oddly, Bush doesn't look like a dork when wearing a flightsuit, unlike another politician riding around in a tank...


It's only been, what, 20 years or so since that event.

Oddly Kerry doesn't look the kind of guy who would send burgalers to his opponents offices and then lie about it...unlike another politician.

Kerry also doesn't look like someone who would nail his female slaves. Unlike another politican. You know he also doesn't look like a guy who would get his own pope and cut his wives heads off.