Prince pickleprince wrote:
Ignorant Cu[/i]ntfaced PsychoHoseBeast.
Oh, will you two just do it and get it over with!!
[i]Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:15:05 2004 by Tare
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Oh, will you two just do it and get it over with!!
[i]Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:15:05 2004 by Tare
What's bred in the bone will not out of the flesh.
It's complicated, Katie. In short Chechnya is predominately Muslim and had been under Soviet (read godless here) rule for decades. When glasnost hit Russia and their control over the other countries and territories slackened, the Islamic separatists in Chechnya saw this as their time to agitate for an independent Islamic state.
Couple this with an American effort to foment trouble in the Soviet Union's backyard by providing varying amounts of assistence to this rebels prior to and after the destruction of the Wall and it starts getting complicated. Now that we are in a full blown war with terrorism which largely equates to squashing Muslim extremism, it becomes our problem as well since we want Russia's help in fighting this problem.
Finally, to further muddy the waters, Russia did not join with us against Iraq (for completely different reasons than what was happening in Chechnya, namely money interests) and Afganistan (because of their previous involvement there) which emboldened the rebels and caused a greater rift between our two countries on the whole war on terrorism thing.
Like I said, it's complicated.
Totem
Couple this with an American effort to foment trouble in the Soviet Union's backyard by providing varying amounts of assistence to this rebels prior to and after the destruction of the Wall and it starts getting complicated. Now that we are in a full blown war with terrorism which largely equates to squashing Muslim extremism, it becomes our problem as well since we want Russia's help in fighting this problem.
Finally, to further muddy the waters, Russia did not join with us against Iraq (for completely different reasons than what was happening in Chechnya, namely money interests) and Afganistan (because of their previous involvement there) which emboldened the rebels and caused a greater rift between our two countries on the whole war on terrorism thing.
Like I said, it's complicated.
Totem
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However while i do think intensive negotiation is key, sometimes you have to set deadlines/boundaries and say "look we have tried to work with you but you keep pissing around, either start working with us or prepared to get the sh*t bombed out of you". For example Al-Sadr in Najaf, we throw a few bullets at him and he wants to negotiate, then he starts f'ucking around again then we throw a few more bullets and he smartens up, then he messes around. I would give him a few chances and then if it was a viable military option be like "look last time, no other chances play straight or we are gonna go in and clear you out simple as that".
You mean like we did with Iraq? Then once that is done all the liberals will **** and moan because it wasn't the terrorists fault that they attacked. They attacked because our society is full of bad people like Christians.
Me talking crap again. . . Move along.
Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:28:08 2004 by Nobby
Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:28:25 2004 by Nobby
Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:28:08 2004 by Nobby
Edited, Tue Aug 31 14:28:25 2004 by Nobby
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Thank you Totem.
Goddam Muslims.
/looks around
What? OK, I'll stop.
heathens!
/looks around
What? OK, I'll stop.
heathens!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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