Step away from all of the politics for a moment...Follow

... And look at the value of human life,


Why not vote for someone who isn't going to cause the deaths of even more innocents. I'm not going to touch the subject of the Iraqi people, but just on our civilians over there, and the soldiers too.

I'm to the point where I'm just going to say : ***** the economy. Regardless of who would improve what, or would would make it worse.... Just fuc[b][/b]king forget about all of that for a minute: When did it become right to put a price on human life?

Haven't we always been taught that things such as murder are wrong?


There was no threat in Iraq. No WMD. Even if there was, it wouldn't ve been used on us anyway. They didn't have the capability to. They had no way to launch intercontinental missles. They had no way to drop chemical munitions on us by plane.

Bush has sent people to die for no real reason. I'm not going to debate if it was about oil, or anything like that.

What I do know is that whatever we do now, will be utterly pointless by 10 years from the time we leave. Probably even sooner than that. Some would-be dictator will seize power, or a neighboring country will take it over, it doesn't take any kind of a genius to see that.

We've sent people just barely out of their childhood off to die for no real reason. Is that right?


I don't think so. I don't care if you vote for Kerry, or if you don't vote at all, or if you vote for some obscure 3rd party candidate that we all know won't win... But voting for Bush means you're voting for someone that caused the death of hundreds of innocents.

"...But the economy..."

Shove the economy. Even HITLER improved the economy. Would you vote for Hitler?

How so?

Its not like we sent the army personell to Iraq against their will, they did sign up themselvs.

And apparantly, the majority of congress believed there was a "real reason" to go to Iraq

I don't know about MOST people, but chemical and biological weapons, IMO are not WMD. They cause ALOT of death, but destroy very little else. Nukes on the other hand...

People who sign up for the Armed Forces should know what to expect. By signing up, it shows that they are willing.


On Oct. 16, 2002, congress signed into law the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution oof 2002". The name pretty much speaks for itself.

LMAO Ok you want to nick pick how many troops willingly went to war over duty, but you argue that congress did more then authorize when your proof is "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution oof 2002".

News flash...our civilians are over there to try and make a profit from the fighting. They're nothing but war profiteers.

Shed a tear for them if you like, but if someone is going to try and make a profit off another person's suffering, they had better be prepared to deal with the consequences.

Innocents they are NOT.

Shed a tear for them if you like, but if someone is going to try and make a profit off another person's suffering, they had better be prepared to deal with the consequences.


You mean you can't make 4 grand a month driving a truck here?

So does that rule this guy out?

if i could come in to this did you guys see f 911 i dont know so.
there was no cause to go to war other then oil.
a friend of mine said something to me.
he said hey dont cry bout spending so much at the pumps
cause in iraq they sepending human lifes for a gallon

Haliburton Candidate read the post check the link
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Edited, Sun Aug 1 02:56:27 2004 by OBERION

How about his take on a living wage?

"It is our belief that minimum wage should be abolished, then reestablished at $ 1 - an hour, and held steady at $ 1., as this would force the cost of living down & reduce the costs on all necessities of life."

He's assuming someone cares about people working for $1.00 an hour.

Silly fascist.

when you put saddam vs north korea
they have nuks he has oil.
if it was a hunt for wmd
they did they not go for n korea.
they was looking for oil and that is all

We have soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines voluntering to go to Iraq even with the knowledge that they could die. I personally know 5 people that volunteered to go and are there now. I personally know 2 civilians over there right now one is in IT making 120k base, and the second is an Engineer making the same base pay. The first 80k being non taxable. These are one year tours with options to extend. You can not tell me that the vast majority of our military are not proud to be serving our country at a time of war. Granted it causes hardship on families and friends that worry about their well being however these people volunteered.


I personally know 900 people who don't want to be there. I personally know 1000 people who were personally raped by Bush with a telephone pole.

What's that, my personal experience isn't relevant to the issue? The hell you say!




Have you people not been listening to Kerry for the last few months where he states that we will stay in Iraq, and that he does not believe there is a need to increase troop strengths. So those of you that support Kerry, how can you still want to vite for a man that is willing to keep status quo in a war that was started by his opponent. This is telling me that the Bush administration is doing something right.


How can you still vote for a man who wants to repair the damage done by Bush without causing more suffering for the Iraqi people?

Outrageous!