Kerry delivers.Follow

This is what drives every election nowadays. You don't think anyone actually believes candidate A do you ? Nope - they just hate candidiate B more.

It's no surprise the way the world works since most people's political involvement is based on a negative driver.

For a good example - this forum is mainly full of "your candidate is full of sh*t" threads and not "my candidate is good because ...." .

No wonder there's a general voter apathy out there. Pretty hard to get motivated by politics wjhich can be summed up by "vote for me because he's an idiot".

I sat through the entire amusing speach.

I sat through the entire amusing speach.


Really? It must have confused you, you only seem to have heard the five minutes they used as soundbites.

Why would you pay attention, though. Your mind was made up about Kerry before you even knew who he was when you found out he was a Democrat.

Moe, you can't possibly believe this.

Yep. Granted, I had a crying 3 month old on my lap for the first 10 minutes, but I saw it all. I am choosing not to comment on his war rhetoric, or his "back door draft" remarks, or his suggestions that Mr. Ashcroft doesn't uphold the constitution. As for sound-bites, I have not seen any news since last nite, so I havent seen them.Not true. My mind has been made up about the Democratic Party since I can remember. But I do pay quite a bit of attention to what they say. It's nice to see the lies that one side says about the other (both ways). Hell, my primary source of news is MPR. I get DFL dogma on a daily basis.

Varrus? That you?

Smash is partly correct. The extent of the ferver with which I defend the right is more bait than anything else. But I do firmly believe that while "all men are created equal", they are also responsible for their own choices, and I shouldn't have to pay for their mistakes.

Considering that Ashcroft is the anti-thesis of what every Attorney General should stand for (i.e. the Constitution and the law), I think merely saying he doesn't uphold the Constitution is a nice way of putting it.

He's a f*cking fascist pig that should never have gotten to the position he's in.

Moe, MPR treats Pawlenty with kid gloves every day. I see it first hand. I listen to MPR. If there is a liberal bias, it's not much of one at this point. Then again, no one from the press asks Pawlenty tough questions. They seem to have no qualms asking my side tough questions. Every press conference I'm at there's literally a dozen common sense, tough but fair, questions that I would have asked as a reporter (and having been one I would have asked) that simply are ignored. It's sickening.

I'll grant you the Star Trib editorial board is about as left wing as you come, but look at 5, 1500, 4, 'CCO and even 11 aren't exactly liberal bastions.

If you're talking programming, I'll conceed your point about MPR. But their news is mostly balanced (there's always some bias).

Grady

Edited, Fri Jul 30 11:25:31 2004 by Grady

And if that was you in that situation you wouldn't want them to try and reach out to help you?

You know what it is that bothers me so much about most people that vote Republican?

It's not that they might hold views that I disagree with, that honestly doesn't bother me, they have right to advocate for what's best for them.

What bothers me is that most of them, not all, but most of them, are being duped. They think they are voting in their own self intrest when really, they're not.

My wife's parents are Republicans. They're what used to be referred to as "country club" Republicans. They benefit from Republican policies. They have a large amount of investment income, they're socialy conservative, aren't fond of change, and so on.

I don't begrudge them voting Republican. I don't agree them on most issues, but it really doesn't bother me.

People like Moe, though, I just can't fathom. Unless he has a great deal of wealth or an income in the high six figures and is exceptionaly conservative socially, he's actually harming his own self intrest by voting for Bush.

He's loosing money long term, loosing services that he's probably going to have some reliance on when he's elderly and he's willfully surrenduering civil liberties for no discernable reason.

That's the part that bothers me. That people who make 80k a year have been sold a bill of goods that high bracket and capital gains tax cuts benefit them somehow, and that because they're middle aged white guys that the civil liberties lost won't effect them, just the brown skinned people and the ********

Enlighten a brother, Moe. Why is it you'll be voting for Bush?

Only when it's not Moe. Only when it's not.

You can't control where you grow up, what your parents are like, and how affluent they are. Just because you're on the short end of that stick doesn't mean you shouldn't have the same opportunity as some one on the long side of it.

You remind me of Joe Soucharay. Too busy ******** about nothing to admit that while life isn't fair, will never be fair, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do our damndest to even up the playing field.

The Republican mantra is: We got ours, f*ck everyone else. You embody that philosophy better than just about any other poster here.

Varus is Smash's puppet anyway. Not Moes.

Grady

Edited, Fri Jul 30 11:32:10 2004 by Grady

Pickle, truth is it's a bit of both.

Grady