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#1 Jul 27 2004 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm liekly the only one who actually wathed the whole thing, but man, that guy is absolutley the best poltician of his generation hands down. He's going to make a great SCOTUS justice.
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#2 Jul 27 2004 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Fluff and no substance will get you far as long as you have charm.
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Fluff and no substance will get you far as long as you have charm.


So will being a Rhodes Scholar, having comprehensive understanding of polcitical issues, leading the US through the greatest economic expantion in history and having charm.
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#4 Jul 27 2004 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
Hey I agree slick willy is a smooth as they come. And in all honestly he was a great president if for no other reason than with his sexual escapades taking up so much of his time he couldn't really focus on his agenda, except for all those last minute pardons..nod nod wink wink

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except for all those last minute pardons..nod nod wink wink


Every outgoing President does that, it's par for the course. Ford pardoning Nixon was the worst example of that sort of thing.
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#6 Jul 27 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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He was great with the younger generation. He touched a crowd that none of the other canidates did in the past. However I can't help but snicker and feel embarrassed for him when him or his wife get up to speak. It's fakiry at it's finest... but what politician isn't?

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#7 Jul 27 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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Every outgoing President does that, it's par for the course. Ford pardoning Nixon was the worst example of that sort of thing.


No they don't...I challenge you to compare the list of pardons from clinton and stack them up next to the last 50years of presidential pardons combined.

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#8 Jul 27 2004 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't help but snicker and feel embarrassed for him when him or his wife get up to speak. It's fakiry at it's finest... but what politician isn't?


Yeah, of course, but he's much better at it than anyone who's still alive at the moment. He's also at the very least far above average job performance wise for Presidents this century.
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#9 Jul 27 2004 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, of course, but he's much better at it than anyone who's still alive at the moment. He's also at the very least far above average job performance wise for Presidents this century.


Edit that to 'the last quarter of the 20th century' and you'll get agreement out of me.

Most of Clinton's appeal is that of a good ole boy who is a friendly drunk.

He got caught with his pants down and spent the rest of his time in office dealing with people ranting about it. That made him a lot more careful and he walked the middle of the political road for most of his time in office. Since that's where many of us live, of course he was popular.

If he'd spent enough to keep our military stockpiles up, I'd have liked him a lot more.
#10 Jul 27 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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If he'd spent enough to keep our military stockpiles up, I'd have liked him a lot more.


Aren't there cars passing by your front porch not being waved at right now? Sheez!
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Edit that to 'the last quarter of the 20th century' and you'll get agreement out of me.

Most of Clinton's appeal is that of a good ole boy who is a friendly drunk.


The freindly drunk who went to Harvard and Oxford on scholarships.


He got caught with his pants down and spent the rest of his time in office dealing with people ranting about it. That made him a lot more careful and he walked the middle of the political road for most of his time in office. Since that's where many of us live, of course he was popular.


Whatever.


If he'd spent enough to keep our military stockpiles up, I'd have liked him a lot more.


Again, whatever. He probably didn't plan on unilaterally starting a war with a country against the better judgement of the rest of the world or something crazy like that.
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#12 Jul 27 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Again, whatever. He probably didn't plan on unilaterally starting a war with a country against the better judgement of the rest of the world or something crazy like that.


So now he started a war unilaterally? I guess all those other countries involved don't really count. And by better judgement you mean those socialist countries like france and germany should actually have a say as to what our country can or can't do in the interest of national security?

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#13 Jul 27 2004 at 10:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Clinton pardoned 395 people, about average for an outgoing President.
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So now he started a war unilaterally? I guess all those other countries involved don't really count. And by better judgement you mean those socialist countries like france and germany should actually have a say as to what our country can or can't do in the interest of national security?


Um, yes, he started a war unilaterally. I think it fairly unlikely that any of the other "coalition" "partners" would have invaded as a group without the US, don't you?

It wasn't in the intrest of our national security even slightly. In point of fact it created more risk than any other course of action would have.
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#15 Jul 27 2004 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
Um, yes, he started a war unilaterally. I think it fairly unlikely that any of the other "coalition" "partners" would have invaded as a group without the US, don't you?

I dunno, smash, I'm pretty sure that the nation of Palau was gearing up to go in regardless of what the US did.
#16 Jul 27 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I dunno, smash, I'm pretty sure that the nation of Palau was gearing up to go in regardless of what the US did.


You might be right.

I think it was pretty clear that Micronesia was willing to send it's entire air force of a single twin engine Cesna to drop water ballons filled with pork and whiskey on them.
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#17 Jul 27 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
Great politician yes Clinton is/was a great politician. His Leadership is at best questionable.
#18 Jul 27 2004 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Great politician yes Clinton is/was a great politician. His Leadership is at best questionable.


Please back this up with an example or 2.
#19 Jul 27 2004 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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His Leadership is at best questionable.


Yeah, it's horrible to lead a country to the height of it's power and influence in the course of it's history in the world.

Who wants that?
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#20 Jul 27 2004 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I've never been a Bill Clinton fan. However, he was absolutely brilliant last night. Wisdom and strength aren't conflicting values :P

He pointed out the whole Republican mindset: We got ours, **** everyone else. That's exactly the way Republicans view public policy. They don't want people to succeed, they want people to not get educated and not have opportunties because it provides them with the servants and unskilled labor they can take advantage of.

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#21 Jul 27 2004 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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He pointed out the whole Republican mindset: We got ours, @#%^ everyone else. That's exactly the way Republicans view public policy. They don't want people to succeed, they want people to not get educated and not have opportunties because it provides them with the servants and unskilled labor they can take advantage of.


Can't believe I just read this. What you stated is what Repulicans are strictly against. They want people to fully succeed but do it on your own without the handouts of others. You appreciate things more if you work for them more than if they were handed to you.

There are misconceptions and stereotypes with both parties. Don't fall for them.


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#22 Jul 27 2004 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
Can't believe I just read this. What you stated is what Repulicans are strictly against. They want people to fully succeed but do it on your own without the handouts of others. You appreciate things more if you work for them more than if they were handed to you.

Amen. Which is why we should increase the inheritance tax instead of eliminating it. Whats the point of inheriting millions of daddy's dollars if you cant fully appreciate it?
#23 Jul 27 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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They want people to fully succeed but do it on your own without the handouts of others. You appreciate things more if you work for them more than if they were handed to you.


Hahahahah.

Wait, laughing so hard I might **** myself.

The party who's stated goals are to keep wealth in the hands of the wealthy is the party who wants people to work instead of getting handouts.

Priceless!



There are misconceptions and stereotypes with both parties. Don't fall for them.


Oh indeed. Do you ever take the act on the road? You could make good money speaking at liberal fundraisers.
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#24 Jul 27 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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The issue isn't how many people he pardoned, it's the nature of the people he pardoned. The tax dodger and his wife bearing gifts of gold plated saxaphones are a prime example of that. While it may be perfectly legit for Clinton to pardon him, it once again showed supremely poor judgement to actually hand it out to someone who owed millions to the IRS. It's the ecomony, stupid. And millions of dollars weren't paid. Tax dollars, Smash. That should get your blood boiling!

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#25 Jul 27 2004 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
It's pretty easy to "lead" a country to the heights of economic prosperity when all you have to do is hold the tiller straight and let the good work that 12 years of correct thinking leadership put in place run its course.
#26 Jul 27 2004 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
leading the US through the greatest economic expantion in history and having charm.

I wouldn't tout a bunch of companies manipulating earnings as the greatest economic expansion in history.

I liked his boost to the COPS program; that had real effect in this country.

He was also a lying, cheating sonuvabitch, the only difference being he covered it up a good deal better than Bush.

That being said, he was a better president than Bush could ever hope to be.
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