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Umm..hey...question for you. Are any of the martial arts more "tough" than the others? Like is Tae Kwon Do (Black belt) more tough than Karate (Same level)?

Just askin' is all. I have a friend who is a BB in TKD and claims he could kick the *** out of any other martial art, based on the types of things you learn in TKD.




Edited, Sun Jul 25 16:50:11 2004 by Tare

Tae Kwon do is a sport, not a style of martial arts. Now, there are exceptions, but most TKD schools are money pits and do not teach a well rounded form of self defense. Butterfly kicks and spinning head kicks are NOT effective street techniques.

TKD is one step above Tai Chi in the area of kickassedness.

Most styles of Japanese and Okinawan karate are pretty well rounded. Goju-Ryu in particular on the whole trains some pretty tough people. Isshinryu is the style I take which is a shorinryu/Gojuryu hybrid. More upright stances, natural body movement etc. But in reality ********* Shotokan, Shorinryu, wadoryu, isshinryu, uechiryu, and gojuryu are all extremely effective styles and worth taking. While I mentioned the exception to the TKD rule the same applies here...there are some pretty sorry Isshinryu school that totally make the style a joke. Fortunately I am not in that lineage.

Jujitsu is extremely effective and most styles are at least putting the basic principles of Jujitsu into their curriculum. Though in a street situation against an untrained opponent I think that more traditional karate is a bit more effective. I teach a goodly amount of grappling at my school and the principles of Jujitsu are essential if you want to be a good fighter.

Aikido is a neat style but I prefer something with more striking moves. While I stress that any style CAN be effective, aikido takes more to accomplish this because the style has some holes in it.

Tang soo do is too similar to TKD. Too many high kicks, too little practicality.

Jeet Kune do, Bruce's style is pretty but deficient. Bruce was not a good fighter, regardless of how well he could do choreographed stunt work.

American Kempo is neat stuff with a pretty good blend of japanese and okinawan principles.

Kung Fu is pretty, and I appreciate the chinamen for being the first to truly master open handed fighting, but for the most part the kung fu black belts I have known have been pretty miserable fighters. Good looking kata though.

In short, your friend is a lunatic. Ask ANY student of ANY other style of martial arts what they think the weakest for of martial arts is and you will get an answer of Tae Kwon do about 90 percent of the time. It really is a pretty miserable and impracticable form of self defense.

Now I will sit here and wait for the fallout from the people who swear they have conclusive proof that Bruce Lee was a fighting god.

I spent this weekend testing having my instructor down to oversee the test of my second black belt. It was a good time. He is a beast (weighs 185 bench presses 350) and after doing his kata requirements had to fight 9 different people (one at a time of course) in rounds that lasted a little bit more than an hour. It really was a hell of a stamina display and one that I am not sure that I could have pulled off.

Oh, and this part if for Skeet.

I have an african american student now, and he is about to be promoted to orange belt. Just thought you should know.

If you have any more questions please ask. I really never get tired of talking about karate.

Tacosid

Aww, you remembered.

That's good to know. There is a program that will forever remind me of you now, it's a self defense "Public access" tv show. The "Master" always uses the same black guy to demonstrate all of the defensive "take down" moves. Sometimes keeping him in a very awkward position and bending limbs until just before they sprain.

The host looks like Chuck Noris' second cousin twice removed, quite amusing actually.

So Taco what is the best easily found martial arts to do? Some of the ones you mentioned I could only find in major cities or something?

So Taco what is the best easily found martial arts to do?


Study kendo. It's the most fun by far.

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I think these guys could break just about anybody.

You should practice Mexican Judo.

I have all of Billy Blanks' Tae Bo tapes, and I really feel I can kick all your asses. I really do.

I know, but say that to one of the Gracie's faces.

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I'm sayin' bro!

Edited, Mon Jul 26 17:03:37 2004 by pickleprince

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there was a movie called The Perfect Weapon with Jeff Speekman

if you want to see kenpo in action then watch the scene where 6 muggers try to take his wallet..

Kenpo - multiple fast disableing strikes and moving onto the next target.....

With the right choreography I could film myself beating the hell out of half of harlem, but that does not say diddly about the martial arts style I take. Movies are scripted.

I have been in martial arts for 17 years and a black belt since 1992. If six grown men were to attack me in a coordinated effort then my chances at very best are about 100-1. Six on one is too much to handle, except of course in the movies.



I was there last week and stopped by your house. Your girlfriend said that you were not home and she did not know when you would get back. Seeing as how I had about 3400 other dutch turds to beat the hell out of, I did not get a chance to swing back by. Maybe next time.

Tacosid