A local paper in Iraq is stating three nukes where found near Tikrit. Is it too early to find the nukes? Should they have waited another week? Looking at the source of the article the rumor is skeptical.
I think they should have waited until after the Democrats stroke me party, errr I mean National Convention.
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If there are actual nukes, found in Iraq, I may have to go back and edit some of my posts.
Here's to foot-in-mouth!
I'm sure they were there for months with us looking and not finding them. If indeed they were found.
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Wait for secondary verification from an independant source. Also look at the timing for the release of something like this. What is going on this week? Well, first of all the 9/11 commission will be releasing their report on Thursday which is rumoured to be very critical of the Bush administration. Also, the Democratic National Convention is starts Friday.
Why would something like this come out now? Well, to deflect press reports about the commission report and to deflect press away from the DNC.
It's just like when Tom Ridge went out and announced that there was going to be a terrorist attack in the US, right after Kerry announced Edwards as his running mate. If the threat of an attack was so imminent, why did Ridge make an annoucement with absolutely no information as to what kind of attack, where, etc. If they were really serious about preventing an attack, they wouldn't make a national press release. They would actually get information about the attack to the appropriate agencies, and maybe try to keep it quiet so that if someone was planning something, the perpetrators wouldn't know that we were on to them.
Why would something like this come out now? Well, to deflect press reports about the commission report and to deflect press away from the DNC.
It's just like when Tom Ridge went out and announced that there was going to be a terrorist attack in the US, right after Kerry announced Edwards as his running mate. If the threat of an attack was so imminent, why did Ridge make an annoucement with absolutely no information as to what kind of attack, where, etc. If they were really serious about preventing an attack, they wouldn't make a national press release. They would actually get information about the attack to the appropriate agencies, and maybe try to keep it quiet so that if someone was planning something, the perpetrators wouldn't know that we were on to them.
So far this story hasn't got legs. CNN, Fox, or any of the major networks isn't carrying the story.
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So far this story hasn't got legs. CNN, Fox, or any of the major networks isn't carrying the story.
I know, I've been searching for a secondary source, haven't seen anything yet. I honestly hope (all politics aside) to Bob that they find the nukes to help solidify the justification of the deaths of our fallen Brothers and Sisters.
Everybody that posts on this entire site has more news experiance than your average iraqi local newspaper. hell most of them learned their writing style from the pakistani english websites out there, so i personally wouldn't put too much into it yet. intresting though
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I honestly hope (all politics aside) to Bob that they find the nukes to help solidify the justification of the deaths of our fallen Brothers and Sisters.
I agree whole-heartedly
You all are such hippocrites...First of all you ***** and moan about justification for going into iraq saying there weren't any weapons of mass destruction. Now when there's a story saying there might be you all ***** and moan about the timing of the discovery. True it is unsubstantiated rumour right now but even the possibility of it being true has the libs screaming bloody murder because it would destroy one of their key talking points about the value of going into iraq.
I have an idea why doesn't the bush administration call the kerry campaign and ask them when the best time for them to release any information pertaining to the discovery of weapons of mass destruction.
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I have an idea why doesn't the bush administration call the kerry campaign and ask them when the best time for them to release any information pertaining to the discovery of weapons of mass destruction.
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You all are such hippocrites...First of all you ***** and moan about justification for going into iraq saying there weren't any weapons of mass destruction. Now when there's a story saying there might be you all ***** and moan about the timing of the discovery. True it is unsubstantiated rumour right now but even the possibility of it being true has the libs screaming bloody murder because it would destroy one of their key talking points about the value of going into iraq.
I have an idea why doesn't the bush administration call the kerry campaign and ask them when the best time for them to release any information pertaining to the discovery of weapons of mass destruction.
Varus
I have an idea why doesn't the bush administration call the kerry campaign and ask them when the best time for them to release any information pertaining to the discovery of weapons of mass destruction.
Varus
I don't see any evidence of "all of you" saying anything about "timing" in this thread. Try using the "quote" system. It's there for a reason.
Edited, Wed Jul 21 17:54:34 2004 by CrimsonMagician
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hell most of them learned their writing style from the pakistani english websites out there, so i personally wouldn't put too much into it yet.
The depressing thing is that even despite that most of their writing is more legible than almost everything posted on the FFXI forum
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You know, the FFXI thing is getting old. In fact it's so old, and so cliche', that even FFXI posters use it. Even I used it at one time. Find something new to harp on. Like your mother.
varus was referencing this that the op had.
Yo! Butt Lick. Yeah you! The one that is holier than thou! Have you ever heard of ******* Sarcasm?
<----- Use it all the time. Pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and look at who is posting the comment.
Now if you are referring to this whacko's comments, then like someone else stated, start using the quote's, they work wonders.
Edited, Wed Jul 21 18:17:36 2004 by Stok
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Is it too early to find the nukes? Should they have waited another week?
Yo! Butt Lick. Yeah you! The one that is holier than thou! Have you ever heard of ******* Sarcasm?
<----- Use it all the time. Pull your head out of your fourth point of contact and look at who is posting the comment.
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Why would something like this come out now? Well, to deflect press reports about the commission report and to deflect press away from the DNC.
Now if you are referring to this whacko's comments, then like someone else stated, start using the quote's, they work wonders.
Edited, Wed Jul 21 18:17:36 2004 by Stok
Varus can't even follow his own comments, let alone the comments of someone else. Sheesh, people.
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Varus can't even follow his own comments, let alone the comments of someone else. Sheesh, people.
Well, but he does have a point in this case. Sorta...
I do find it kinda annoying that a couple people's immediate response wasn't that this was kind of a questionable news source and maybe we should wait to see before making anything of it, but that the timing was convenient (in a "roll of the eyes" kind of way).
Guys. Stuff happens in the world. Even when it's not an election year. Does the administration make some effort to time the release of information in a way that helps them? Certainly. Every administration of every government ever in the history of mankind has done this. You'd be an idiot not to.
I'm sure some Roman advisor at some point said something like: "Hey Claudius. Let's wait to tell the people about setbacks in Gaul until after the Colluseum games have begun for the season...".
This is nothing new guys. But the level of venom some folks toss around about it is bordering on psychotic. And the immediate assumption that *every* news story and event is timed, and in many cases constructed whole-cloth borders on the paranoid. If anyone in the Bush administration wanted this story to come out today, don't you think they'd maybe put it somewhere else?
At some point, you have to go with the more likely explanation: Some Iraqi journalist got a few facts mixed up, and wrote a probably bogus story. Or, he stumbled upon a huge news story before anyone else. You kinda can't have a conspiracy if everyone in the freaking world is "in on it". Think about that...
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I hope they find nothing, so that our war-monger president won't cause more deaths to our brothers and sisters in future wars (say, with Iran) over the next 4 years. You can quote me on that - if Bush wins, which is more likely if we find the nukes, we will be going to war again. If Kerry wins, not nearly as likely.
So far this story hasn't got legs. CNN, Fox, or any of the major networks isn't carrying the story.
Gee, maybe because it's utter ******** created out of whole cloth to appeal to rabbid Bush supporters who are seeing their guy fail at every single thing he's attempted?
I wonder who started this thread, I should go back and check, maybe. Surely not the guy who links to the Moonie paper constantly? Nah, couldn't be.
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I am kind of confused. The very first thing I wrote was :
I am pretty sure that the statement is pretty straight forward. Can anyone really tell me that the other comments I made about the timing are not valid?
Think about it. You have to look at the big picture here.
Look at the kinds of reports that are coming out and the types of press releases the administration comes out with right after that. It's all to feed the media monkeys and to keep the American people confused and uninformed as to what really is going on.
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Wait for secondary verification from an independant source.
I am pretty sure that the statement is pretty straight forward. Can anyone really tell me that the other comments I made about the timing are not valid?
Think about it. You have to look at the big picture here.
Look at the kinds of reports that are coming out and the types of press releases the administration comes out with right after that. It's all to feed the media monkeys and to keep the American people confused and uninformed as to what really is going on.
Hey, I don't profess to believe what I read in the papers linked from Drudge. I do know that they add a little spark and sometimes a big fire here in the Assylum when I start subjects on them.
Hmmmm. I wonder why my friends and customers call me an instigator. =)
Hmmmm. I wonder why my friends and customers call me an instigator. =)
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You know, the FFXI thing is getting old. In fact it's so old, and so cliche', that even FFXI posters use it. Even I used it at one time. Find something new to harp on. Like your mother.
Oh I suppose I should come up with some original wit, like your mom jokes. because that didnt go out with the 90s or anything.
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I guess Irony, for you, only applies to orange juice.
You know, I'm bettting the story will never receive verification. It's probably completely fabricated. And the person who fabricated it probably has nothing to do with Bush or Kerry. Some people just revel in attention. I can't think of a better way for a small paper in Iraq (or anywhere else) to get inst ant fame than to be the one who cracks a story like this first. Would a half-wound Iraqi who has everything he and his family owns staked in a paper take that sort of risk? Certainly.
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