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Havachip, I can't be bothered to read what everybody else wrote, since I figured this to be yet another legalize drugs thread, but I did check to see what you wrote. Your reaction is precisely why doing dope is a foolish action. While doing it 999 times nothing bad happens, all it takes is that one time where someone laced it with a deadly substance or in killer quantities.

If nothing else, it's a risk vs reward kind of thing. And for my money the risk is waaaaaay out of proportion to the reward of a temporary high.

Totem

there is pretty much zero risk to your physical health (outside that of marijuana's normal effects) if you play it smardont smoke someone elses stuff unless you trust them to tell you if its laced (or better yet, just smoke your own stuff). dont buy from a dealer who you dont trust. its in a dealers best interest to keep a strong base of customers who will come back. if you get pissed off cause he laced your weed and you didnt know chances are you arent coming back.

two simple rules and you wont be in risk of dying.

And, as it was pointed out, why would they? Why would they give you additional drugs for free?

Yes, you can smoke weed laced with cocaine and get the effects of the cocaine. It is not as potent as smoking crack (from what I hear), but it does work and in fact, from what I remember, it is quite nice. On the thread subject:

I am not a drug user anymore, but I am not anti-drug either. I personally don't smoke anymore because I was starting to experience the same effects you described in the first post. At first I ignored them and went on smoking, but one night I had a full blown panic attack that wouldn't go away. I went to bed thinking that I would sleep it off, but when I woke up the next morning I was no better. I tried smoking to calm down, but that just made it worse. So I stopped, because I didn't really feel like going crazy.

I'm not saying that smoking weed will have this effect on everyone who smokes it for a long time (I smoked damn near every day for about 6 years), but I believe that everyone has a unique body chemistry and marijuana affects each person differently. Some people can smoke all their lives, some people can do it off and on, and some others can only do it so much before it starts to wear on them and start showing ill effects. Just my two cents.

Your other statement should have indicated the answer to your own question. No they're not. They're the guys selling illegal substances. They have zero reason to give drugs away that they can sell.

Well, it can cause paranoia, that may not seem like such a bad effect but after awhile it starts edging away at your sanity

Edited, Sun Jul 18 16:57:13 2004 by Kaiena

Yanari, you make it sound as if rational thinking is what drives these people. Even you point out that they are illegal substances. So how rational is that considering the risks involved when jail time, violent competing dealers, and dangerous buyers are factored into the equation? If they were rational, they'd take up a legal and profitable profession.

Besides, if we assume it is not the norm to lace their product, then they are doing it to add an extra kick, make a name for themselves, or they partake of thier own wares and like the additional punch. To borrow from that beer commercial, why ask why? Who knows why? We just know it gets done on occasion-- something I don't think you'd deny I hope --and rolling the dice that you are taking into your body drugs that are "safe" is an unacceptable risk to my eyes. But then again, I am rational by any measure or standard.

Totem

Yes and no. It's a busisness. Simple as that. They never give anything away for free, no more than a Mickey D's does. What they are doing is adding a new substance to it to make it slightly different, there are a few reasons:

1) Some chemicals are a tad more expensive and addictive than Pot, why not lace it with something and whet their tastes for it? Breaking the Ice to new chemical cocktails so to say.

2) Give away a eight gram with a quarter sack of dope, similar to number 1, try to get them switched to a harder, more expensive habit. (I refer to this as the Happy Meal principle.)

3) If you give more quantity, or more potentency, for a slightly lower price you will sell more. People will come back, people will tell their friends, and the next think you know the 2 and a half Kilos you bought yesterday are gone.

In the end its a busisness without regulations, I agree that if legalisation ever occurs it should be similar to Nobbys ideas.

you are a moron. NO ONE smokes cocaine. it just doesnt work. if it did its what people would do. its alot less icky than snorting it. i challenge you to find a single reliable source that shows you can get any significant effects from smoking cocaine (that isnt free-base or crack).

atleast when dealing with marijuana, its not common to find a traditional "dealer". generally you get it through a friend of a friend. a dealer doesnt want to f*ck with you because if they do then they will lose a customer. they dont have to grow their own to know if their product is clean or not. plus, in california (where possesion is decriminalized) its not worth it for a pot dealer to sell laced pot because what could be a fine or a few months of jailtime turns into mandatory jail for a veeeeeeery long time. obviously if he gets caught dealing hes ****** no matter what hes selling, but whether he gets lube or not depends on the substance.

very few marijuana users want laced stuff, there isnt a really big market for it. thats why it is an extreme exception. many, many people smoke marijuana with other drugs, but they want to be able to control the amounts seperately. or to do them at different times. for example, marijuana is very commonly used during the come up when you're on hallucinogens to help with the nausea or on the comedown of opiates or coke.

well i would have to say youre full of sh*t.

I have ONCE tried a joint laced with cocaine. I did notice the difference, it was just a different kind of high. However it wasnt all that hence my one time use.

Yanari, yes, you are correct, in that I do tend to see the worst of the worst which undoubtedly colors my perspective. And, yes, alcohol is a far more prevalent vehicle for injury and death from my observations.

I suppose, however, that my profession also leads me to the view that I take since I am very restricted in what substances I can injest and what I cannot. Where my family may be able to take cough syrup for a pesky cold, I have to motor on through it unless I am willing to have a flight physician give me an exam afterwards.

Totem