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#1 Jul 06 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Default
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040706/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_vice_president
#2 Jul 06 2004 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
Just to clarify things before I start on my Political Soapbox I am in the U.S. Marine Corp and frankly had no political like or dislike on either side of the house. I rather hate politics but will voice my opinion on a website that has absolutely nothing to do with politics because otherwise I might sound "politically uneducated," but will probably more than likely sound politically uneducated anyway :/
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I come from a family of republicans and frankly i voted for bush because he acted. But even though he gave the armed forces pay raises I cant really justify putting him back in office for a second time. Kerry had gotten my vote up until the uncovering of his protesting situations. As of now Nader has my vote. Yep I said it NADER. At this point he is the most sane man out of all of the candidates and he is the one I would rather have getting the 400k a year to sit and look pretty on Cap. Hill.

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#3 Jul 06 2004 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, maybe you can give some kind of reasoning as to why it's over for Kerry.
#4 Jul 06 2004 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
Just my personal opinion. I feel if he had chosen Clinton or the like he would have made it a tougher fight. Kerry is a tool. Bush will win, and then maybe we wont have to worry about that Ketchup man being in office.
#5 Jul 06 2004 at 12:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know if it's over for Kerry because of his choice of running mate. In fact, Edwards is probably the best choice. I doubt very much that Clinton, meaning Hilary, would give him a better chance. It's much too early to predict a winner anyway.
#6 Jul 06 2004 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
Here's a reason that doesn't have to do with Edwards:

Kerry Says He Believes Life Starts at Conception: 'I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception'...

Hrm...hrm...hrmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Personally, he opposes abortion, politically, he's to much of a god damn sissy to stick up for what he actually believes in. It's over for Kerry because he's Kerry, it doesn't matter who you put behind him. Now maybe if you had put someone else in front of him...that's be another story.
#7 Jul 06 2004 at 12:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's a pretty poor example, and you left out the rest of the quote. He says that his belief is based on his religion, catholicism, and that he will not force his religious belief on others who do not share them in a country based on religious freedom. I really don't see a problem with a politician choosing the law of the land over his religious values.
#8 Jul 06 2004 at 12:51 PM Rating: Default
So many people backed Clinton after his term. Many more felt some kind of connection with Hillary. I hate to admit but I do think she would make a wonderful president.... This other guy? He was a lawyer right??? Besides that he ran against Kerry thats about all I can name off the top of my head. He is not a popular. The average non-presidential race watching American is going to vote off of the popularity of a name. There is still plenty of people that back Iraq, not all agree with some of the bungling of our "peace making". Still there are plenty of Americans that are going to back Bush because of their ties with the men and women over seas. That and Kerry is a slime ball. I dont trust him and I worry about the state of our nation if he wins. I cant get over that whole spain backing kerry, and all the while they were sucking the terrorists ***' right after the madrid bombing. That and Kerry's (was it vietnam) service?? Shadey. We all know that Bush was just a rich little boy who probally had strings pulled but atleast his medals arent based on a scrape and a possible slaughtering of an unarmed man... Where was I reading that?? Now Im going to have to go pull sites so that when the barrage of questioning happens I can point people towards them...
#9 Jul 06 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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. As of now Nader has my vote. Yep I said it NADER. At this point he is the most sane man out of all of the candidates and he is the one I would rather have getting the 400k a year to sit and look pretty on Cap. Hill.


Good luck with that vote. You do know that you will have to write that one in, right? Nadar doesnt even have the backing of the Green Party this year.
#10 Jul 06 2004 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
BAHAHA! That's a pretty poor quote?? Dude, he said that he believed life started at conception, which in his view would make abortion murder, no? If the guy won't "push his views on someone else" when it comes to murder than what the f&*^ will he push what he believed in for? Tax increases? Yah, he has no problem pushing those beliefs on anyone does he.

Oh, by the way, what is this "pushing your beliefs" on people BS. If you believe in something you should stick by it, no? I mean, if you really truly believe in something...not that I think John Kerry believes in anything sincerely. A leader will by definition always be pushing one belief or another on some group of people, because you will never find a policy that 100% of people agree with...Kerry doesn't get to play both sides of this political coin...nuh uh, not lettin' him get away with it.

#11 Jul 06 2004 at 1:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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/shrug

All I said was you took part of it, and used it's twisted form to support your argument. You didn't use the whole quote. If you can't admit to that it's no use arguing with you.

Edited, Tue Jul 6 14:09:52 2004 by CrimsonMagician
#12 Jul 06 2004 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I'm of the opinion that VPs don't matter much in an election, barring something extraordinary about them like Sen. Clinton, who polarizes the electorate due to her past. Edwards, like Cheney, don't make much of a difference outside of the requisite "one heartbeat away" balderdash and rhetoric that gets thrown out in a weak attempt to play to voter's fears. I suspect that voting numbers and statistics would likely bear my thoughts out on this.

People make their decision based on the actual presidential candidate, not the running mate.

Totem
#13 Jul 06 2004 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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This other guy? He was a lawyer right??? Besides that he ran against Kerry thats about all I can name off the top of my head.
That speaks more about your own ignorance than his lack of accomplishment.

Of course, what's the chances a hick from Texas would be voting for the idiot from Texas? It's unprecented!
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#14 Jul 06 2004 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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After all, when's the last time you voted for a presidential candidate based on who he chose as his VP? Never, right? In fact, I bet you can't name someone who has either.

Totem
#15 Jul 06 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I agree with Totem, except I can say that if Perot wasn't so wishy washy, he might have stood a chance. That being said, I would say people would have NOT voted for Perot based on his running mate.
#16 Jul 06 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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No, but I do at least try to have an idea of who the VP nominee is beyond "I think.. uh.. he was a lawyer?" After all, they're one heartbeat away! Smiley: wink

My mom once had lunch with Geraldine Ferraro when she was campaigning.
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#17 Jul 06 2004 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
Heh...I apologize, next time I'll post the entire speech so that we can all be bored to death and commit seppuku. Sheesh, fine, I pulled a Michael Moore on ya a little bit...but Kerry's still a sissy boy.

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After all, when's the last time you voted for a presidential candidate based on who he chose as his VP? Never, right? In fact, I bet you can't name someone who has either.

Totem


True...though Quayle did some damage I think. That's one example that might have influenced a vote negatively.

Edited, Tue Jul 6 14:36:07 2004 by xtremereign
#18 Jul 06 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Default
Oh look its two slime balls. Kerry will never have the votes from the South. Personal injury trial lawyer?? I told you he was a nobody. Scumbag to the max!


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=7&u=/ap/20040706/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_finances
#19 Jul 06 2004 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
Looking at the recent numbers, I would say it is pretty much over for Bush - baring stunning turnaround best he can hope for is if neither candidate gets the 270 electoral college votes and the congress decides in his favor.
#20 Jul 06 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
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Oh look its two slime balls. Kerry will never have the votes from the South. Personal injury trial lawyer?? I told you he was a nobody. Scumbag to the max!


Aww, you're just mad 'cause you haven't fu[i][/i]cked him yet.

#21 Jul 06 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Default
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=5&u=/ap/20040706/ap_on_el_pr/teachers_kerry


No, no Kerry is a slimeball....
#22 Jul 06 2004 at 2:39 PM Rating: Default
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No, no Kerry is a slimeball....


Oh, so you HAVE fu[i][/i]cked him? Well, that's ok. If we couldn't vote for people you've had sex with, over half of the U.S. would be ineligible.



#23 Jul 06 2004 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
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Oh, so you HAVE ****** him? Well, that's ok. If we couldn't vote for people you've had sex with, over half of the U.S. would be ineligible.


Apparently slimeballs support slimeballs eh? Why don't you go hang out with your new HBS "friends", OD, and die. Huzzah.
#24 Jul 06 2004 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ahhh so you're a sockpuppet, it all makes sense now.
#25 Jul 06 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Default
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Ahhh so you're a sockpuppet, it all makes sense now.


I hope that's not in reference to me...if so let me make a few things perfectly clear.

1) Agreeing with someone does not make you a sock puppet, if it did, this place and the majority of you would be a dresser drawer full.

2) Being enthusiastic about seeing someone who, at least on this topic, thinks along similar lines as me and scored some good points is plain normal...I'm pretty sure half of you guys ****** everytime Smash speaks anyway. (especially Pickle, damn that guy is out to hump smashes leg I think, I'd watch my bakc bro)

3) This is the first time I've seen Mrens post.

4) I don't do puppets.
#26 Jul 06 2004 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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xtremereign wrote:
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Ahhh so you're a sockpuppet, it all makes sense now.


I hope that's not in reference to me...if so let me make a few things perfectly clear.

1) Agreeing with someone does not make you a sock puppet, if it did, this place and the majority of you would be a dresser drawer full.

2) Being enthusiastic about seeing someone who, at least on this topic, thinks along similar lines as me and scored some good points is plain normal...I'm pretty sure half of you guys ****** everytime Smash speaks anyway. (especially Pickle, damn that guy is out to hump smashes leg I think, I'd watch my bakc bro)

3) This is the first time I've seen Mrens post.

4) I don't do puppets.


Well, due to the fact that Mrens posted nowhere in this thread, and nobody was talking about Mrens, I think it's rather obvious now.
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