Who knows? Maybe Jack is following Hillary in our first female president's footsteps by trying for a senate seat. But whatever happened to Cathy? Did he turn Mormon and start practicing his religion's precepts by having wild sex orgies with multiple wives? 'Cuz we all know that's what those satyritic Joey Smith's all get up to when they take off their holy underwear.
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Actually, I kinda agree with Yanari. If more people took the "what of it" stance, those kind of things would become less of an issue to public life. We have this view/requirement that politicians shouldn't be involved in sexually open activities largely because we assume that most aren't.
However, as long as the bulk of politicians continue to maintain that illusion about themselves, the situation for the unfortunates like Ryan is that not denying it will hurt him. Same thing with Clinton. He could have just said: "Sure. I was banging an intern. What business if that of yours?". But he didn't. He didn't because by denying it there was at least the chance that no-one could prove the allegation. If he admitted it, he would be "guilty".
16 posts for the conservatives to get to Clinton. I'm amazed it took so long.
Bottom line is that if you're going to bring your wife to sex clubs and try to coerce into having sex with you in public, you can't run on a "family values" platform.
Republican's hold THEMSELVES to a higher standard morally.
Either way, he's fuc[b][/b]ked and the Dems win a Senate seat and maybe the majority because of it.
Ahahahahahaha!
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It's not his sex life, it's the fact that he lied to both the voters and his own party leaders.
Hmmmm, perhaps he should change parties so he can get elected and run for president in '08.
Come on Smashiepoo this entire thread sounds just like a Clinton bashing thread it is just both sides are on the opposing side.
Personally, anyone that screws around on his wife or treats her like he did is not worthy of office, whether Republican or Democrat. Demonstrated acceptable moral and ethical standards should be a requirement for public office. I'm not saying going to a strip club is wrong but the lying part is. IMHO.
If you could magically remove everyone from congress who had cheated on their spouses there'd be about nine people left.
It's the hypocracy, not the act that bothers people.
It's the hypocracy, not the act that bothers people.
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Heh, an article on Slate made the opposite assertion: for all the spin and damage control from the Republicans, Clinton should have joined the GOP before having an affair and they would have done their damnest to shield him 
From Ryan's website regarding his stance against gay marriage:
The breakdown of the family over the past 35 years is one of the root causes of some of our society’s most intractable social problems-criminal activity, illegitimacy, and the cyclical nature of poverty.
As an elected leader, my interest will be in promoting laws and educating people about the fundamental importance of the traditional family unit as the nucleus of our society.
I'd say dragging your wife crying into a sex club is worse for marriage then letting two gay guys get hitched. Besides, everyone knows that all those gays like sex clubs!
From Ryan's website regarding his stance against gay marriage:
The breakdown of the family over the past 35 years is one of the root causes of some of our society’s most intractable social problems-criminal activity, illegitimacy, and the cyclical nature of poverty.
As an elected leader, my interest will be in promoting laws and educating people about the fundamental importance of the traditional family unit as the nucleus of our society.
I'd say dragging your wife crying into a sex club is worse for marriage then letting two gay guys get hitched. Besides, everyone knows that all those gays like sex clubs!
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Come on Smashiepoo this entire thread sounds just like a Clinton bashing thread it is just both sides are on the opposing side.
By golly, you're right.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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this entire thread sounds just like a Clinton bashing thread
Nobody has used the words reprehensible or unconscionable.
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this entire thread sounds just like a Clinton bashing thread
But the Clinton angle is what makes it so funny! Listening to Pubbies who used to want to hang Clinton from the nearest tree, scramble to the defense of Jack Ryan is fun!
Whether or not Gbaji or Smash or Stok or I think it's immoral or "bad" to drag your wife to orgies at sex clubs isn't important. The Illinois GOP relies on midstate and downstate votes to fill the vaccum made by Democratic Chicago. Telling the good folks in Arcola and Effingham, Illinois that the multi-millionaire who took his Hollywood actress wife to sex clubs against her will is still a good, moral family man is going to be a hard sell. If it was Obama who did this stuff, the rural vote would still be swinging largely conservative and the urban folk would have much more of a "Who cares if the man gets jiggy at the sex clubs?" attitude.
I predict the Illinois GOP dropping Jack Ryan if they can get Thompson or Edgar to run (neither of which showed previous interest). I don't think a largely unknown Pubbie candidate will carry it and I doubt Ryan will beat Obama. Score a Senate seat for the Dems this fall.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
I swear, if Hitler, Jeffrey Daumer, and Dracula were republicans Gbaji would somehow FIND a way to defend THEM.
Utter, utter ridiculousness!
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Utter, utter ridiculousness!
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I find it amusing that the media can sue because they feel certain information is more pertentant to public view than someones privacy. Only in America!
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I find it amusing that the media can sue because they feel certain information is more pertentant to public view than someones privacy. Only in America!
I find it amusing that the government can control the media and keep whatever secrets they want from the citizens. Only in the USSR/Iraq/China/etc.!
Apparently the judge agreed it was important else it wouldn't have been unsealed.
Divorces and the like are public record. You could trot on down to the DuPage County Courthouse and read through my custody case if you wanted to. Sealing them is unusual and goes against the whole concept of "public" record. If someone running for public office decides he needs his public records sealed from view, I'd want to know why as well.
Part of this whole thing comes from Jack Hull, a Democratic senate candidate who also had his divorce records sealed. Eventually they were opened and exposed that he had struck his wife during his marriage. Needless to say, he lost the primaries. You don't think that stuff is worth knowing for the public before they decide who they want to elect? Even if Ryan had won the case the keep his records sealed, the stigma would have been all over him anyway simply because he did seal them.
Anyway, according to CLTV, the Ryan campaign is already looking for an exit strategy from the race. As one column noted, it seems the poor Pubbies will have to get used to Senator Barrak Obama (D-IL) this fall.
Divorces and the like are public record. You could trot on down to the DuPage County Courthouse and read through my custody case if you wanted to. Sealing them is unusual and goes against the whole concept of "public" record. If someone running for public office decides he needs his public records sealed from view, I'd want to know why as well.
Part of this whole thing comes from Jack Hull, a Democratic senate candidate who also had his divorce records sealed. Eventually they were opened and exposed that he had struck his wife during his marriage. Needless to say, he lost the primaries. You don't think that stuff is worth knowing for the public before they decide who they want to elect? Even if Ryan had won the case the keep his records sealed, the stigma would have been all over him anyway simply because he did seal them.
Anyway, according to CLTV, the Ryan campaign is already looking for an exit strategy from the race. As one column noted, it seems the poor Pubbies will have to get used to Senator Barrak Obama (D-IL) this fall.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
One Senate seat is a big deal these days. Don't worry, though, in Massachussets we'll do the right thing to fill Kerry's. Maybe Joe Kennedy will run.
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I find it amusing that the media can sue because they feel certain information is more pertentant to public view than someones privacy. Only in America!
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I find it amusing that the government can control the media and keep whatever secrets they want from the citizens. Only in the USSR/Iraq/China/etc.!
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I find it amusing that the government can control the media and keep whatever secrets they want from the citizens. Only in the USSR/Iraq/China/etc.!
Well I only say this because of the way the media feels that this information is pertinent for everyone to see. I agree with what Jop said in regards to it being important in the divorce preceedings, but this is obviously an attempt at a front pare story. Come on its politics, it has to be. I bet the guy Jack Ryan is running against had a hand in it too.
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Well I only say this because of the way the media feels that this information is pertinent for everyone to see. I agree with what Jop said in regards to it being important in the divorce preceedings, but this is obviously an attempt at a front pare story. Come on its politics, it has to be. I bet the guy Jack Ryan is running against had a hand in it too
When you run for office, you give up some of your privacy rights.
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Yeah, that's what this country needs-- another Kennedy running around raping, overdosing, flying planes into large bodies of water, and pickling their livers into the next century.
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Yeah, that's what this country needs-- another Kennedy running around raping, overdosing, flying planes into large bodies of water, and pickling their livers into the next century.
If it's that or another Bush invading Iraq again...I think I'll go with the Kennedy. I mean, what's Jeb going to do for an encore if the Iraq thing works out? He'll have to invade Cuba with the Florida National Guard.
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As opposed to that other Kennedy whose good military decision involved us in Vietnam, right?
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As opposed to that other Kennedy whose good military decision involved us in Vietnam, right?
Yeah, you're thinking of LBJ. Kennedy had less troops in Vietnam than we have currently in Bosnia.
You might have been thinking of the Kennedy who stared down the Russians over missles in Cuba and won, or the Kennedy who set the vision of the American space program to land a man on the moon, which we did.
It's probably pretty confusing to a conservative to see a man who actually has vision and stands by his principles, though. I can see how you'd be confused.
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No, I'm thinking of that demi-god the Democrats worship whose initials are JFK. He is directly responsible for our first military loss and all the subsequent social evils which developed in the Sixties and Seventies. Ok, maybe that last bit is a tad much, but still, it's not too far off the mark.
Remember McNamara? Yeah, that guy-- Kennedy's Donald Rumsfeld to put it in perspective and context for you, Smash.
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Remember McNamara? Yeah, that guy-- Kennedy's Donald Rumsfeld to put it in perspective and context for you, Smash.
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Kennedy was in office for less than a term. Everything you're atriubting to him has vastly more to do with LBJ. If you want to blame him for the Bay of Pigs, feel free.
Who was the little ***** who gave up on 'Nam again?
That's right, a Republican. They're allways running away from war whenever actually presented with the difficulties of it.
Who was the little ***** who gave up on 'Nam again?
That's right, a Republican. They're allways running away from war whenever actually presented with the difficulties of it.
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No, I'm placing the blame squarely at the feet of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. He involved us in Vietnam. Not Eisenhower, not LBJ, not Nixon. While Nixon certainly ended our prolonged fiasco over there, the groundwork for hobbling their options had been laid many years earlier under two Democtatic regimes, errr, I mean administrations.
Let's not obsfucate the situation for the rest of the board who is not as well versed in policy and history as you and I, Smash. Trying to slide responsibility to LBJ for involving us in Vietnam is factually incorrect. He was certainly complicit in tying our hands in terms of diplomacy and military action, but he was not the one who got us entangled there in the first place.
Let's lay to rest one myth surrounding JFK. He was not a stellar military genius as some would have us believe. Cuba was dangerously close to being the trigger for WW3, as documents have recently shown. He wasn't the steely eyed politician that he had been made out to be-- he was purely lucky. He didn't read the Sovs so skillfully, he was backed into a corner that he had no alternatives to choose from. Instead he created the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, and almost cooked the world in nuclear radiation.
His being offed by Oswald was about as good of an ending as he could ask for. It enshrined him as what could have been instead of what was coming down the pike for a whole series of foolish decisions.
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Let's not obsfucate the situation for the rest of the board who is not as well versed in policy and history as you and I, Smash. Trying to slide responsibility to LBJ for involving us in Vietnam is factually incorrect. He was certainly complicit in tying our hands in terms of diplomacy and military action, but he was not the one who got us entangled there in the first place.
Let's lay to rest one myth surrounding JFK. He was not a stellar military genius as some would have us believe. Cuba was dangerously close to being the trigger for WW3, as documents have recently shown. He wasn't the steely eyed politician that he had been made out to be-- he was purely lucky. He didn't read the Sovs so skillfully, he was backed into a corner that he had no alternatives to choose from. Instead he created the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, and almost cooked the world in nuclear radiation.
His being offed by Oswald was about as good of an ending as he could ask for. It enshrined him as what could have been instead of what was coming down the pike for a whole series of foolish decisions.
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Trying to slide responsibility to LBJ for involving us in Vietnam is factually incorrect. He was certainly complicit in tying our hands in terms of diplomacy and military action, but he was not the one who got us entangled there in the first place.
No, that would be Eisenhower. History lesson time, I see.
Eisenhower got us entagnled in Vietnam by tying our policy there with the French forces. He resisted sending troops, but sent massive amounts of aid. Kennedy followed what Eisenhower suggested for Indochina policy. Combat troops didn't land in South Vietnam until '65. If you want to blame someone you have two choices:
Eisenhower or LBJ.
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Let's not obsfucate the situation for the rest of the board who is not as well versed in policy and history as you and I, Smash.
Ok guys I don't want to get involved in this argument but as it seems as though you are both history buffs (as am I BA in History from UCLA 1999) I have a great book for you if you have not read it already. Its A Peoples History of the US by Howard Zinn. It really turns our outlook on US history upside down in telling it from the "other side".
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