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How far have you guys traced back your ancestry? if at all.

PicklePrince- you said you're a decendant of Kenneth MacAlpine... do you have official documents for that or anything? (not questioning, just curious)



Smasharoo, did you not say you hail from the Ó Donnchadha tribe?
so you've undoubtably seen this--> http://www.odonoghue.co.uk/guests/projects/view_project.php?ProjID=1


I'm sure quite a few of you have no background, being that thieves and vagrants usually couldn't write stuff down in those days... it's ok, you have you're place in society too...

I have copies of baptismal records of my family dating back to the mid 1700's from a church outside of Krakow, Poland*. There's a second cousin in my family who's really into the geneology and took the trip to Poland (he's the one who got the records) and he might be able to trace it further back, but he's one of those relatives I only see at weddings and funerals.

*You know, as opposed to -- say -- Krakow, New Jersey

One of my cousins traced our family (my paternal grandfather's side) as having arrived to the US from Wales back in the 1650s and my paternal grandmother's side came from Sweden but I've forgotten when.

Regarding my maternal grandmother's family, I'm related to two U.S. presidents. One was the shortest holder of the office (and the first to die in office) and the other president was his grandson. They are:

William Henry Harrison - http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html

Benjamin Harrison - W.H.'s grandson. http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bh23.html

Strangely enough, they were related to Pocahontas. http://www.owsley.org/AncestralReflectionsMilancie/AncestralHistories/HarrisonLinkToPocahantos.htm





Edited, Fri Jun 18 11:21:08 2004 by Smoggy

I have met 3 other people that say they are realted to Pocahantas. I supposedly am too. My father said some stuff about her that prolly isn't in any text books.

I have a fair bit of native blood, my great great great grandfather according to the Tree is Sitting Bull, from a wife or daughter named Martha Falling Dove.

The native roots are harest to trace because of all the reservastion jumping and name changing. It's quite frustrating. My father does geneological work like I play FFXI.

The oldest date on the tree was a woman from Scotland in the 1400's. Their are about 4 names we have on the tree form the 1400s and on from there..

The only person really notable in my ancestry besides Sitting Bull and "Pocahontas"<--if is;

Elhanan Winchester (1751-1797),http://www.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/elhananwinchester.html (related to the Winchester Rifle people) He was friends with John Adams and a few other noteworthy Revolutionaries. He was a poet and a preacher who started some of the first churches for slaves, and one of his books was called "The Reigning Abominations, Especially the Slave Trade"

Among his poems and sermons, patriotic hymns and other writings is a letter to George Washington, basicly declaring how God has sent him to lead the country and how he's not even worthy to be writting letter to him... funny.

He was also pretty much the founder of the Universalist Church, and was widley condemned by the Church and often crushed their arguments with him in public debates.

He proposed that all men were able to go to heavan, and the rest of the religious world claimed that since the Bible says that some WIll go to hell, that it is inevitable that not everyone could be saved.

Letter to George --> http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/ElhananWinchester/Winchester009.html


Patriotic Hymns --> http://www.godstruthfortoday.org/ElhananWinchester/Winchester006.html

His poems however are kind depressing.. like a goth wrote them..




Edited, Fri Jun 18 13:13:32 2004 by Kelvyquayo

I think that's the en vouge way of saying you're related to a "Cherokee princess" or whatever people bable about. As one person I know quipped, "Is that like being related to an eskimo samurai?"

I don't have anything handy, but it really isn't much of a stretch. Both of my grandparents were born on Skye. It's a fairly straight shot backfrom there to Kenneth. It winds through MacBeth and St. Columba, too. We're kind of a smaller clan, so that makes it easy, too.

Eb

Edited, Fri Jun 18 16:05:21 2004 by pickleprince

It was rare though that people of Scottish/Irish decent were rich enough to own slaves as the South was pretty much run by the English. Maybe, they fu[i][/i]cked alot of black folks?

Eb

So that's where you got your dark colored skin, Git. You're almost black-- like me!

Totem

That's were I got the big ****, like you (only you are a ****, big dif that), I got my red from the redman. However, there is evidence we owned slaves, just not a lot. 15 in one case and 10 in another. Actually, that could be a lot for the average clan back then I guess. Black in the family gene people is a running joke with some of the less uptight in the family.

I would but I'm afraid the information I put into the geneological database might be used by a cult to conduct rituals including the names of my ancestors to spiritually bring them into the cult's "religion" and, in so doing, reach a magical number of souls so as to bring about the end of the world.

A great something or other Uncle, from my dad's side of the family.

On my mom's side, it's a mix of Dutch, Irish, and Cherokee/Chocktaw Indian. They came over here by way of Ellis Island, whereas my dad's side has been here since before the American Revolution. British bastards.

on my dad's side, huguenot weavers and florists who came to america to escape religious persecution, arriving in 1778, or something close to that...my grandfather, though, was one of those people who actually did run away from home and join the circus at the age of 13.

on my mother's side, my great-grandfather was a cabin boy on the Constitution...somehow got from minorca, spain to boston to marry my very bostonian great-grandmother...have his journals, too