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ok w/e you say...
Edited, Fri Apr 23 15:03:32 2004 by trunksbrando
Edited, Fri Apr 23 15:03:32 2004 by trunksbrando
Trunksie wrote:
if you have a kid 10 or older they already know about sex =)
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I believe that society is far too conservative when it comes to child sexuality. In my opinion, children should be taught how to love safely and with respect of others and themselves. Children should not be "protected" from sex as they grow older, as indeed evidence suggests, it is a crucial part of healthy mental and physical development.
Why is it, then, that US politicians continue to pass stricter sex offense laws; the age of consent is rising; and fear is spread throughout the public? Why is it that politicians are willing to reject the evidence of psychologists and psychiatrists supporting the need for increased education and involvement of children in sexuality?
Why is it, then, that US politicians continue to pass stricter sex offense laws; the age of consent is rising; and fear is spread throughout the public? Why is it that politicians are willing to reject the evidence of psychologists and psychiatrists supporting the need for increased education and involvement of children in sexuality?
Kids shouldn't have sex. They're irresponsible, and they get pregnant.
Teenage parents which keep their children commit their kids to a life of poverty.
These aren't my opinions, they're facts. Here's my opinion:
poverty = bad.
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Kids shouldn't have sex. They're irresponsible, and they get pregnant.
They're gonna have sex anyway.
All the more reason to emphasize the importance of being responsible.
That was in response to "I believe that society is far too conservative when it comes to child sexuality. ". Obviously the government cannot change any socital issues, no matter how hard it tries.
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Kids shouldn't have sex. They're irresponsible, and they get pregnant.
Teenage parents which keep their children commit their kids to a life of poverty.
These aren't my opinions, they're facts. Here's my opinion:
poverty = bad.
What leads to teenage parents?
1. Not talking to kids about sex.
2. Teaching abstinance as the primary method of birth controll.
These aren't my opinions's they're facts. Here's my oppinion:
Homophobic Christian morons teaching abstinance and resisting public school sex ed lead to more pregnant teens than showing ten year olds **** for five years straight would.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
I was trying to answer more the "why" rather than the "does this work". It was also a note on "how the world is" rather than "how it should be". My fault for not specifying.
I'd also like to note that children who swear to abstinance are more likely to get stds. Just as another basketball of stupidity.
PS. The website in your sig hurts my eyes.
Edited, Fri Apr 23 21:48:50 2004 by Stanlo
I'd also like to note that children who swear to abstinance are more likely to get stds. Just as another basketball of stupidity.
PS. The website in your sig hurts my eyes.
Edited, Fri Apr 23 21:48:50 2004 by Stanlo
End teenage pregnancy! Shoot a teenage stork!!!
hey, is michael jackson on this board or something? lol.
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PS. The website in your sig hurts my eyes.
Yeah, it's awfull RED. Get it, RED, left wing...hey, it's not my blog I just read it. I discovered I was far to lazy to blog myself back when I was actually concerned with working and booking a lot of hours.
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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Homophobic Christian morons teaching abstinance and resisting public school sex ed lead to more pregnant teens than showing ten year olds **** for five years straight would.
Little harsh there, don't ya think?
1. I've never had sex. (15)
2. I don't plan on having sex until I'm more mature and responsible, and possibly married.
3. Ya, It was because of the way I was raised. And no, I'm not a Homophobic Christian moron, just a regular Christian one. And I wouldn't have asked to be raised any other way.
Xbow, if you're still a virgin at 17 you'll probably be in a small minority amongst your peers. That's neither good, nor bad. It's sensible of you to recognize you're not mature enough to handle the complications of a sexual relationship.
Other people aren't going to wait.
Smash said it in his usual delicate way, but essentially it's true that it's religious groups who exert the most pressure to keep sex education out of schools.
If kids are having sex, I don't want them to be ignorant and too embarassed to keep themselves protected and make good decisions.
Other people aren't going to wait.
Smash said it in his usual delicate way, but essentially it's true that it's religious groups who exert the most pressure to keep sex education out of schools.
If kids are having sex, I don't want them to be ignorant and too embarassed to keep themselves protected and make good decisions.
I can only speak from a homosexual veiwpoint, but I can honestly say that none of the sexual education I recieved as a youngster even addressed the topic. Most of what I learned in life I had to find out on my own, and I didn't start dating or falling in love till age 22. When I did fall head over heals in love I noticed that I started acting like a 13 year old (thank you Cosby Show), and suddenly realized that this portion of my personality never had a chance to develop. As I looked around the gay community I realized that there were tons of people that acted highly immature and didn't understand interpersonal relationships. It was a "Beavis and Butthead" mentality rolled up in a adult person's body.
Sexual predator issues aside for the moment, I think the best thing a parent can do to foster a healthy sexual attitude in a child is establish good communications. A son or daughter should never feel embarassed or afraid to approach a parent concerning sexual issues. I know how though this sometimes can be for a parent. The best sex education a child can recieve is within a loving and caring home environment. The parent has to protect the child, but at the same time let him/her experience life and occasionally make mistakes. Any question is fare game to be asked of the parent.
Sexual predator issues aside for the moment, I think the best thing a parent can do to foster a healthy sexual attitude in a child is establish good communications. A son or daughter should never feel embarassed or afraid to approach a parent concerning sexual issues. I know how though this sometimes can be for a parent. The best sex education a child can recieve is within a loving and caring home environment. The parent has to protect the child, but at the same time let him/her experience life and occasionally make mistakes. Any question is fare game to be asked of the parent.
Smash, the thing I said about kids asking for information when they need it. I was thinking like little kids, not teenagers who are already in trouble.
Joph gave an example, his son asked at age 4 how the baby got in the tummy, and he didn't get an answer. I can remember something like *the daddy planted the seed there*. Then if the kid wants to know how, he'll ask, and should be told.
Has to be easier giving them information as they grow, rather than one big *birds and bees* talk.
Joph gave an example, his son asked at age 4 how the baby got in the tummy, and he didn't get an answer. I can remember something like *the daddy planted the seed there*. Then if the kid wants to know how, he'll ask, and should be told.
Has to be easier giving them information as they grow, rather than one big *birds and bees* talk.
#36, j, 12, subparagraph e. 'Nuff said.
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I would, probably in the following order (some concurrently):
a) Teach kids (and show them by example) what a truly 'loving' relationship is all about and what it means - and how precious it is.
b) Teach kids about the human body - both male and female - the reproductive systems, cycles, issues, diseases and outcomes of sex.
c) Teach kids how to ********** (and that is it is not evil). Encourage them to do it.
d) Teach kids about how to satisfy a partner, if they should ever be involved in a relationship some day. (Note: Tell them that sex is not for self only, that if you treat the other person in the relationship as though they were the special one, they will receive their own reward too, better than if they are just in it for themselves. In addition, they are more likely to seek the right person to do it with, and to wait.)
e) Finally - teach them about 'protection'.
You can begin with a) at or before the child is born.
b) is taught at every opportunity that arises - to the level of the child's ability to understand, and according to his/her interest.
c) is the tough one, but, there is usually a moment or opportunity IF you share things with your kid such as tv watching or other activities, when it could be brought up - casually at first and then whatever you discuss at that point can be used to further discuss it at another time (which will vary according to whether your child is male or female.
Once you have established a good enough relationship with your child that you have covered c) with some ease, d) will be easier to broach.
I suspect e) will also come naturally if you have managed the previous topics.
Edited, Sat Apr 24 21:21:01 2004 by Alumni
a) Teach kids (and show them by example) what a truly 'loving' relationship is all about and what it means - and how precious it is.
b) Teach kids about the human body - both male and female - the reproductive systems, cycles, issues, diseases and outcomes of sex.
c) Teach kids how to ********** (and that is it is not evil). Encourage them to do it.
d) Teach kids about how to satisfy a partner, if they should ever be involved in a relationship some day. (Note: Tell them that sex is not for self only, that if you treat the other person in the relationship as though they were the special one, they will receive their own reward too, better than if they are just in it for themselves. In addition, they are more likely to seek the right person to do it with, and to wait.)
e) Finally - teach them about 'protection'.
You can begin with a) at or before the child is born.
b) is taught at every opportunity that arises - to the level of the child's ability to understand, and according to his/her interest.
c) is the tough one, but, there is usually a moment or opportunity IF you share things with your kid such as tv watching or other activities, when it could be brought up - casually at first and then whatever you discuss at that point can be used to further discuss it at another time (which will vary according to whether your child is male or female.
Once you have established a good enough relationship with your child that you have covered c) with some ease, d) will be easier to broach.
I suspect e) will also come naturally if you have managed the previous topics.
Edited, Sat Apr 24 21:21:01 2004 by Alumni
Note to all parents out there, an opinion of a 15 year old:
Kids will learn about sex, PERIOD.
It is up to you to decide whether it is in a more positive environment (family, school[lesser extent]) or in a more negative environment (peers, media) They will also learn a good portion of it before the school even thinks about teaching it. I don't really know how I learned about everything. It wasn't from my parents, and it also wasn't from school, because when SexEd was first taught (age 13 I think, for me) I knew almost everything there was to know, with the exception of some of the names. The pre-teens is one big class of SexEd, you have to decide who the teacher is.
Peer pressure is a problem! its all about the "If Billy is doing it, whats so bad about it?" mentality. A strong core set of values and individuality can go a long way. Also, individuality is not doing the opposite of what a parent tells you(which is what many people do), individuality IS not doing what your peers or popular culture tell you to do.
Teaching to respect themselves is a key point also, I know way too many people who do not respect themselves. I also know some people(in my age group) who have children on the way who fall into that group, coincidence? I personally don't think so.
One thing I blame: Popular Culture. We are basically taught about what boys/girls are suppost to do/wear/live their lives/aspire for, from TV/movies/magazines/etc. people are being molded at younger and younger ages, and the government is trying to stop it by lifting the age of concent? lmao
In the end it is their choice, regardless what you do they may still choose to have sex at an early age. Still, maybe a talk about all of this can make the difference between being careful or not. Teenage life is certainly screwed up, don't even get me started on the topic of drugs.
Edited, Sat Apr 24 22:11:47 2004 by Altaramere
Kids will learn about sex, PERIOD.
It is up to you to decide whether it is in a more positive environment (family, school[lesser extent]) or in a more negative environment (peers, media) They will also learn a good portion of it before the school even thinks about teaching it. I don't really know how I learned about everything. It wasn't from my parents, and it also wasn't from school, because when SexEd was first taught (age 13 I think, for me) I knew almost everything there was to know, with the exception of some of the names. The pre-teens is one big class of SexEd, you have to decide who the teacher is.
Peer pressure is a problem! its all about the "If Billy is doing it, whats so bad about it?" mentality. A strong core set of values and individuality can go a long way. Also, individuality is not doing the opposite of what a parent tells you(which is what many people do), individuality IS not doing what your peers or popular culture tell you to do.
Teaching to respect themselves is a key point also, I know way too many people who do not respect themselves. I also know some people(in my age group) who have children on the way who fall into that group, coincidence? I personally don't think so.
One thing I blame: Popular Culture. We are basically taught about what boys/girls are suppost to do/wear/live their lives/aspire for, from TV/movies/magazines/etc. people are being molded at younger and younger ages, and the government is trying to stop it by lifting the age of concent? lmao
In the end it is their choice, regardless what you do they may still choose to have sex at an early age. Still, maybe a talk about all of this can make the difference between being careful or not. Teenage life is certainly screwed up, don't even get me started on the topic of drugs.
Edited, Sat Apr 24 22:11:47 2004 by Altaramere
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Teach kids how to **********
I think you can be put in jail for this! Is this like showing someone how to golf? "Ya feel that???? Yea, thats the correct motion. Yea, you got it, ok now try it by yourself."
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Encourage them to do it.
"Can I go outide and play?"
"Have you spanked your monkey today?"
"No."
"Well spank it, then you can go out and play until supper."
Hilarious!!!!!!
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there is usually a moment or opportunity IF you share things with your kid such as tv watching or other activities, when it could be brought up - casually at first
*a commercial break comes on*
"say son, do you want me to teach you how to jerk off?"
"ooh yes please pa"
"well first of all..."
Alumni people like you should be kept in tiny little boxes
Edited for typo
Edited, Sat Apr 24 21:53:58 2004 by Dracoid
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Homophobic Christian morons teaching abstinance and resisting public school sex ed lead to more pregnant teens than showing ten year olds **** for five years straight would.
I hope you realize that not every Christian in this world is like the one you painted above. Yes, I'm a Christian. No, i'm not a "homophobe" (i may not agree entirely with the choice, but it's theirs to make-who am i to judge?).Yes, i believe in abstinence and yes I'm going to teach it to my children. But, I fully encourage public school sex education. I want my child to be well informed (from me and the school) so that when the time comes they can make the best decision for themselves. I might not be thrilled if they do have sex, but that will just reinforce my "protection" policy and the risks. I gave them the knowledge, and it's up to them to use it how they see fit.
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I hope you realize that not every Christian in this world is like the one you painted above. Yes, I'm a Christian. No, i'm not a "homophobe" (i may not agree entirely with the choice, but it's theirs to make-who am i to judge?).
If you think Homosexuality is a "choice" you're an idiot.
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Yes, i believe in abstinence and yes I'm going to teach it to my children.
You're twice the idiot.
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But, I fully encourage public school sex education. I want my child to be well informed (from me and the school) so that when the time comes they can make the best decision for themselves. I might not be thrilled if they do have sex, but that will just reinforce my "protection" policy and the risks. I gave them the knowledge, and it's up to them to use it how they see fit.
But you're going to teach them abstinance which means bye, bye, you're out of the loop in regards to who your kids ******* untill they're about 25.
Congratulations!
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To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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Little harsh there, don't ya think?
No, I don't think so. I think more Abortions happen every year because some Christian moron doesn't talk to his daughter about sex that for any other reason.
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1. I've never had sex. (15)
Lack of opportunity.
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2. I don't plan on having sex until I'm more mature and responsible, and possibly married.
********* you won't make it out of highschool. If you did WHY would you want to wait to something that produces probably the best feeling in the world? To torture yourself? Masochism? Do you do the same thing when it comes to other things that feel good? Gee, I get an edorphin high when I run, I better stop doing that untill I'm married.
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3. Ya, It was because of the way I was raised. And no, I'm not a Homophobic Christian moron, just a regular Christian one. And I wouldn't have asked to be raised any other way.
You're brainwashed. It's ok, it's common. I'll say a prayer to Christer Bunny for you that you break free of that **** and learn to think for yourself at some point.
And that you get laid before you're thirty.
Disclaimer:
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
To make a long story short, I don't take any responsibility for anything I post here. It's not news, it's not truth, it's not serious. It's parody. It's satire. It's bitter. It's angsty. Your mother's a *****. You like to jack off dogs. That's right, you heard me. You like to grab that dog by the bone and rub it like a ski pole. Your dad? Gay. Your priest? Straight. **** off and let me post. It's not true, it's all in good fun. Now go away.
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Bullsh*t, you won't make it out of highschool. If you did WHY would you want to wait to something that produces probably the best feeling in the world? To torture yourself? Masochism? Do you do the same thing when it comes to other things that feel good? Gee, I get an edorphin high when I run, I better stop doing that untill I'm married.
Who are you to tarnish their views? If they want to do that let em, and shut up
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Yes, i believe in abstinence and yes I'm going to teach it to my children.
I wonder if you practiced abstinence, most people with these sort of views are the biggest hypocrites in the world. I am going to teach my kids abstinence just like my parents taught me. I didn't listen to my parents, and really, I doubt my kids will listen to me either. Is this the game plan going in?
Personally, My wife and I are expecting a child right now. When he/she hits a certain age, I would think about 13ish, he/she will be taught about STD's and what teenage pregnancy can do to your life, and the best way to avoid these problems. If my kids have any intellegence at all they will see that abstinence is the best way of avoiding these issues. Here is how you protect yourself while your having sex, or you can avoid having to worry about these things by practicing abstinence.
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