Smasharoo wrote:
No, but lots and lots of people say "Well, Junior, you're 18 now. Go kill whoever the government tells you to, risking your life in the process and if you die they'll give me a real nice folded up flag."
That's an important distinction there in my mind. I imagine very few people send their children off to boot camp expecting to never see them again. When you kiss you child on the cheek and wish them luck with the bombing you know you won't.
Smasharoo wrote:
Taking an oath to defend your country and taking an oath to martyr yourself for your faith are morally *IDENTICAL*. In point of fact the martyr's decision is a lot more sincere and difficult as he's not making it with the intention of hanging out for three years and paying for school.
All though what I actually said was
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I don't see the correlation between taking an oath to defend your country and walking into a crowded market or bus and blowing it up.
I think your statement better illustrates the differences than the similarities. Very few people enlist in the US military so the can go kill someone. Fewer take that oath expecting to die. A vast majority
do enlist to put in their time and earn money for college, or learn a trade or skill. And IMO that makes a huge difference.
HeresJohnny wrote:
"I wish you the best of luck, Hassan. With Allah's blessing you will take a few of the infidels children or maybe a pregnant lady with you. No, no, no it's okay you're 18 now. You can indescriminately slaughter at will, really. At 18 Americans can enlist in the military it's the same thing. Really."
Are you serious?
Smasharoo wrote:
As a heart attack. Because it is the same thing. With the exception that suicide bombers on the Gaza strip are infinately more brave than US recruits QED as they're willing to give their lives for what they believe.
Do you mean that
not only are members of the US armed forces indiscriminate murderer's of women and children, but they are also cowardly because they don't kill themselves while doing it?
Smasheroo wrote:
I might not think that what they believe is a good idea, but I don't allways think that the reasons the US kills people are good ideas either.
And this I can agree with. Our motives for military action are not something that I have always believed in. But, the methods we use are far cry from targeting
the citizens of a government we don't agree with.