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#27 Apr 02 2004 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent

Canada seems like a nice place, if you notice you dont hear much about it though, does it really exist....?
#28 Apr 02 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Canada seems like a nice place, if you notice you dont hear much about it though, does it really exist....?


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#29 Apr 02 2004 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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Prediction: Artists will start to focus on concerts, 1960s & 70s style, to make money. And actually, I think that is a good thing.


Yeah. That's a pretty good prediction. And I also think that will be a good thing. What a lot of folks don't realize is that bands did not used to be all about record sales. Even back in the 70s when I was a kid, the profit margins on record sales wasn't that great. The focus was on the live performances.

What we've seen really is that in the last 20 years, as CDs have permeated the industry, is an absolutely huge amount of money being made by the recording companies via those record sales. Back in the day, you might find a handful of record stores selling albums in any good sized town. Today, you'd be hard pressed to not find almost as much density of such stores as there are fast food restaraunts. All of that grew out of the extremely high profitability of CDs.

The reliance on record sales is not "normal". It's literally just a phase. A phase that was very good for certain businesses, but a phase nonetheless. I think that artists will have to go back to a model where their recorded music is an advertisement for their live performances. This'll probably wreak havok with the studio bands, but those weren't "normal" either...
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#30 Apr 04 2004 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't wait until the days of concerts for cash are back... It will kill off so many terrible bands that rely on studio enhancements to sound anything like music.
#31 Apr 04 2004 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
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#32 Apr 04 2004 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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Should downloading music be illegal?

Yes.

Do I do it anyways?

Yes.

Do I have any regrets from infringing the copyright laws of the music industry?

A few.

Will sueing a 14 year old girl stop anything?

No.

Will the KaZaa and Blubster type programs bring back the days of the live concerts?

We can only hope so.
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#33 Apr 05 2004 at 1:09 AM Rating: Good
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The reliance on record sales is not "normal". It's literally just a phase
Not so much to start a new argument, but mass recorded music and radioplay* is only about sixty years old. I'm not sure you could take the last third of its history and declare it to be just a "phase" or not normal. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just that it could very well be the natural evolution of the process.

*By which I mean radioplay of recorded music, not radio dramas or live performances of Lenny Knight & his Three-Penny Trio
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#34 Apr 06 2004 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
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The reliance on record sales is not "normal". It's literally just a phase
Not so much to start a new argument, but mass recorded music and radioplay* is only about sixty years old. I'm not sure you could take the last third of its history and declare it to be just a "phase" or not normal. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, just that it could very well be the natural evolution of the process.


Hmmm... I may not have expressed that very well. Maybe "reliance on record sales as a primary source of income" would have been more precise.

Sure. Sales of recorded music have been around for a long time. Heck. I've got an old Victrola wind up player lying around somewhere (with a stack of old records to boot!). They were there, and they were profitable, but only when done as part of the mass marketing of bands that included airplay and live performances. I was talking about the shift since the introduction of CDs where the costs to duplicate and sell recordings dropped by a factor of about 100. It used to be that you'd make X amount of cash on concernts, X amount on album sales, and spend Y amount (hopefully less then 2X) on radioplay for your bands. Today, it's more like .5X from concerts, 20X from album sales, with Y spent on radioplay. That's a pretty huge shift in where the money's coming from.
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#35 Apr 06 2004 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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The recording industry totally missed the boat on this one by playing ostriches with their heads in the sand. If they'd been forward thinking enough, they could've owned the new business model and protected their financial interests. But now it's way too late, the horse has bolted, and Gbaji is right, what we're witnessing now is the painful death throes of an industry.

Hopefully not too many people will get burned in the process.
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