The Sisters of Mercy
Could name quite a few as runners-up, but Sisters are tops. I will mention that ANY soundtrack to any of Tom Tykwer's films (Winter Sleepers, The Princess and the Warrior, and Run Lola Run are the main ones) are fantastic CD's, and collectively would earn 2nd place if soundtrack's to a particular director's films counted as a band.
best song is a tie between:
"Flood II" - Sisters
"Pretty When You Cry" - VAST
These are purely based on personal interest. In the grand scheme of things, I would think greatest band ever would probably be the Rolling Stones or the Beatles.
edited to give respect to T. Tykwer's soundtracks
Edited, Mon Mar 29 16:14:11 2004 by VWDiesel
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Ah, good point. Never really liked Cyprus Hill all that much, though.
We're talking about best BAND, yes? Not best record, or "my favorite death metal lesbian firefighter group". The Gratefull Dead sold out tours for thirty years with virtually no radio airplay, toured every year, created an entire genre of music and an entire generation of devoted fans. Compared to what the Dead acomplished the Beatles were a blip on the radar of musical history.
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Some more great bands
Placebo
The Cruxshadows
Razed In Black
Aphex Twin
No saying they are the best ever, just great bands in thier own right.
Placebo
The Cruxshadows
Razed In Black
Aphex Twin
No saying they are the best ever, just great bands in thier own right.
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The Gratefull Dead sold out tours for thirty years with virtually no radio airplay, toured every year, created an entire genre of music and an entire generation of devoted fans. Compared to what the Dead acomplished the Beatles were a blip on the radar of musical history.
/yawn
The Grateful Dead (yes its Grateful Dead, not Gratefull. Such a fan should at least be expected to be able to spell the name right) were indeed a very successful touring band. The mystery of their success eludes me. I've been to three Dead shows, and all three could best be described as 7 hours of pointless noodling. One song sounds virtually identical to the next, and the next and the next and the next - or was it even different songs? Could just have been an endless jamfest - hard to tell.
Musically they have contributed pretty much nothing. Had the band never existed, the only noticable change in the genre would be the absence of a few GD clones still out there. Hell, the Beach Boys (and I detest the Beach Boys) have made a bigger contribution to music than the Grateful Dead have. Much like Pink Floyd, the Dead lose alot of their appeal if your not stoned.
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The Grateful Dead (yes its Grateful Dead, not Gratefull. Such a fan should at least be expected to be able to spell the name right) were indeed a very successful touring band. The mystery of their success eludes me. I've been to three Dead shows, and all three could best be described as 7 hours of pointless noodling. One song sounds virtually identical to the next, and the next and the next and the next - or was it even different songs? Could just have been an endless jamfest - hard to tell.
Musically they have contributed pretty much nothing. Had the band never existed, the only noticable change in the genre would be the absence of a few GD clones still out there. Hell, the Beach Boys (and I detest the Beach Boys) have made a bigger contribution to music than the Grateful Dead have. Much like Pink Floyd, the Dead lose alot of their appeal if your not stoned.
Musically they have contributed pretty much nothing. Had the band never existed, the only noticable change in the genre would be the absence of a few GD clones still out there. Hell, the Beach Boys (and I detest the Beach Boys) have made a bigger contribution to music than the Grateful Dead have. Much like Pink Floyd, the Dead lose alot of their appeal if your not stoned.
Smash can't spell his own first name half the time, and it's only 3 letters long. That being said, it's still fun to make fun of him for it.
Contrary to your assertion that they add nothing musically, the Grateful Dead were the masters of "The Jam". The ability to get lost in the music as a unit, to travel down a road that no one really knew was there, do it together and then find a way back to the main highway is a trait of inestimable importance. That the Dead could accomplish that is testament to their deserving the place of honor at the top of the table. That their music had such similar effects on people thorugh 4 decades is also a case in point.
I personally haven't been stoned in over 6 years, and I still find the music incredible. To sit and listen to Fire On the Mountain and have it last for 15 minutes is an experience that I will always love. Or a live set from the 100 Year Hall when the first bars of China Cat Sunflower get picked out, good times.
I have seen the Dead more than 50 times in my life, and each one was a singularly unique experience. My dad once saw them in a triple bill with Zeppelin and The Jefferson Airplane at the Filmore West. Listening to the radio the morning Jerry died and hearing a deputy sheriff's wife call in with the news, I was aware that it would be a long time before any band came along that could do to so many what the Dead had done.
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The ability to get lost in the music as a unit, to travel down a road that no one really knew was there, do it together and then find a way back to the main highway is a trait of inestimable importance. That the Dead could accomplish that is testament to their deserving the place of honor at the top of the table
This is something that jazz musicians have been doing for decades prior to the birth of the Grateful Dead, and have been doing better and with considerably fewer boundaries. Indeed, this is expected of any competent jazz musician. That the Dead could do this with rock, is really not very notable, as lots of other rock bands do it as well.
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That the Dead could do this with rock, is really not very notable, as lots of other rock bands do it as well.
Hmm. I have been listening to "rock" music for a great many years, and I can't say as I have ever heard another group do a jam as well as the dead. The only performer I have ever heard come close is Santana live, so, the piece that is "of note" is that they are the best at it. Congratulations to jazz players for following their artform. It's no great feat, they're supposed to have page after page of white space for grace notes. :)
Most Bands have a weak link, like Ringo Starr was for the Beatles.
Lone Exception is Cream.
Others bands I feel need mentioning are:
Iron Butterfly
The Moody Blues
War
and
It's a Beautiful Day
As for new talent.. my 17 year old, Playboy and I all agree last year's best Album was The White Stripes "Elephant".
Course I could say best Bigs Bands... Glenn Miller, The Dorsey Brothers and Benny Goodman. But I never limited myself to just one type of Music.
Bach, anyone? Ever see Viril Fox in concert?
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Lone Exception is Cream.
Others bands I feel need mentioning are:
Iron Butterfly
The Moody Blues
War
and
It's a Beautiful Day
As for new talent.. my 17 year old, Playboy and I all agree last year's best Album was The White Stripes "Elephant".
Course I could say best Bigs Bands... Glenn Miller, The Dorsey Brothers and Benny Goodman. But I never limited myself to just one type of Music.
Bach, anyone? Ever see Viril Fox in concert?
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Boy, the way Glenn Miller played...
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Then there are the Rogues a pipe band from Texas who always play the Md. Renn faire and have been nominated for a number of grammys.
I say they actually make the bagpipes listenable.
Jonwin says "But then they are Scottish bagpipes and who can tell when they are being played well?"
Editors note. Typed by Jonwin on Elnes computer.
Then there are the Rogues a pipe band from Texas who always play the Md. Renn faire and have been nominated for a number of grammys.
I say they actually make the bagpipes listenable.
Jonwin says "But then they are Scottish bagpipes and who can tell when they are being played well?"
Editors note. Typed by Jonwin on Elnes computer.
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Mikeinsb wrote:
Beatles
Led Zeppelin
Queen
Pink Floyd
The Who
Edited, Thu Mar 18 12:40:19 2004 by Mikeinsb
The Black Crowes would have been added to that list with a longer run.
Edited, Wed Mar 31 01:11:59 2004 by destryp
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Most Bands have a weak link, like Ringo Starr was for the Beatles.
Lone Exception is Cream.
Lone Exception is Cream.
Just out of curiousity, who was Led Zeppelin's weak link?
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Boy, the way Glenn Miller played...
He was a trombone player! We all play well, though apperently our skills at fling over the english channel are rather suspect.
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That the Dead could do this with rock, is really not very notable, as lots of other rock bands do it as well.
When lots of other rock bands sell out world tours for thirty years with a publicity budget of about nine dollars give me a ring.
Untill then, the discussion is over.
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When lots of other rock bands sell out world tours for thirty years with a publicity budget of about nine dollars give me a ring.
Untill then, the discussion is over.
Untill then, the discussion is over.
Every time they came to NY the show's were heavily advertised. Kinda blows your whole $9 theory to hell. A good portion of those concert tickets were also sold to the same people, you know the ones, they folks that just follow the band around for months at a time. The band was certainly an enduring cultural phenomenon, but that's about all they were.
Edited, Wed Mar 31 09:57:51 2004 by Deathwysh
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Nitty Gritty Dirt Band!
This comment made my day!
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Now I know 3 people that admit to knowing who they are! /dance
As for great bands, I'd have to say: The Band!
I'd give high votes for:
Moby Grape
The Zombies
Radiohead
Soft Machine
.
..
...The Pietasters (yeah, who didn't listen to ska at some point in thier life?)
For "Solo" acts, it's Captain Beefheart, hands down, with honerable mention going out to Fela Kuti.
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Edited, Thu Apr 1 17:07:00 2004 by ThePsychoticOne
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Every time they came to NY the show's were heavily advertised. Kinda blows your whole $9 theory to hell. A good portion of those concert tickets were also sold to the same people, you know the ones, they folks that just follow the band around for months at a time. The band was certainly an enduring cultural phenomenon, but that's about all they were.
Heavily advertised?
Most people can't even name more than two Gratefull Dead songs. Most people have no idea who they were. Most people couldn't pick any of them out of a line-up with the exception of Garcia. They sold more concert tickets than the Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Eric Clapton in all his various incarnations COMBINED.
They were consumate musicians, virtuoso live performers and created a body of work that spans genres and generations and will be refrenced for decades to come.
It's unfortunate that you'd like to write them off into a corner because of your lack of knowledge about them, that's ok, that's not my problem.
It just makes you wrong.
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/agree Atomic the best band is 
Led Zepplin. Apparently, there was a radio station in Florida which actually considered changing it's format to purely play the band.
My favorite not yet mentioned band is They Might Be Giants. I actually paid to see the documentary about them "Gigantic" last year.
Side note: Biggest single change in "band"-style music must have been Hendricks. Term "Heavy Metal" coined by a Cleveland reporter after one of his concerts, quipping the music: "sounded like heavy pieces of metal dropping from the sky".
God I wish I was there.
Okay, it's sad: silly things like this, the starting quarterbacks for every NFL team in 1986 and all the prepositions in the English language (in alphabetical order, no less) stick in my head...darn memory
Led Zepplin. Apparently, there was a radio station in Florida which actually considered changing it's format to purely play the band. My favorite not yet mentioned band is They Might Be Giants. I actually paid to see the documentary about them "Gigantic" last year.
Side note: Biggest single change in "band"-style music must have been Hendricks. Term "Heavy Metal" coined by a Cleveland reporter after one of his concerts, quipping the music: "sounded like heavy pieces of metal dropping from the sky".
God I wish I was there.
Okay, it's sad: silly things like this, the starting quarterbacks for every NFL team in 1986 and all the prepositions in the English language (in alphabetical order, no less) stick in my head...darn memory
Led Zepplin were really talented.
AT ROBBING EVERY BLACK AMERICAN MUSICIAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH
Talentless Limey plagerist bastards. Keeping the black man down for another few decades.
AT ROBBING EVERY BLACK AMERICAN MUSICIAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH
Talentless Limey plagerist bastards. Keeping the black man down for another few decades.
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Most people can't even name more than two Gratefull Dead songs. Most people have no idea who they were. Most people couldn't pick any of them out of a line-up with the exception of Garcia.
Which is a fantastic indicator of just how insignificant their impact has been. Couldn't have made a more salient point if had tried.
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They sold more concert tickets than the Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Eric Clapton in all his various incarnations COMBINED.
Not having had the band break up and (almost miraculously) not having had someone die goes a long way to increase a band's ability to tour for 3 decades. Do you honestly think that if the Beatles played as many concert dates as the Dead have that they wouldn't have sold more tickets? Tons more?
The Beatles couldn't continue touring because their concerts were inaudible over the screaming of their fans. The Rolling Stones Inc. stopped being artistically relevant and made the switch from band to business concern about 1979, and Clapton, while capable of squeezing actual human anguish out of his instrument in his youth, has turned into Barry Manilow with a guitar.
I'm not writing the Dead off, they are what they are, but what they are NOT is the greatest band ever, and what they are also NOT, are innovators or major contributors to Music as an art. Pracitioners? Yes. But not innovators. They changed nothing. They impacted nothing (with the possible exception of the sales of illegal drugs in whatever town they were playing in). They were not significantly different in their music when Garcia died then they were long, long ago in San Francisco. You can pretend otherwise all you want, but you'll be deluding no one but yourself.
Edited, Thu Apr 1 21:06:01 2004 by Deathwysh
From Rolling Stone Magazine (who, admittedly have made some gigantic blunders in their past rankings)
(the names to the right indicate who wrote the accompanying article about each artist/band)
The Immortals
The fifty greatest artists of all time
1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello
2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson
3) Elvis Presley by Bono
4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt
5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry
6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer
7) James Brown by Rick Rubin
8) Little Richard by Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler
10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison
11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean
12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham
13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp
14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl
15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John
16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel
17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons
18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson
19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas
20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop
21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper
22) U2 by Chris Martin
23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne
24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby
25) Fats Domino by Dr. John
26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye
27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid
28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson
29) The Who by Eddie Vedder
30) The Clash by The Edge
31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger
33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon
34) Neil Young by Flea
35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid
36) Madonna by Britney Spears
37)Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang
38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz
39) David Bowie by Lou Reed
40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor
41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson
42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf
43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was
44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch
45) The Byrds by Tom Petty
46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash
47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson
48) Run-DMC by Chuck D
49) Elton John by Billy Joel
50) The Band by Lucinda Williams
Go see for yourself. Guess who are conspicuously absent (and deservedly so)?
http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2846
Edited, Thu Apr 1 21:17:04 2004 by Deathwysh
Edited, Thu Apr 1 21:17:33 2004 by Deathwysh
(the names to the right indicate who wrote the accompanying article about each artist/band)
The Immortals
The fifty greatest artists of all time
1) The Beatles by Elvis Costello
2) Bob Dylan by Robbie Robertson
3) Elvis Presley by Bono
4) The Rolling Stones by Steven Van Zandt
5) Chuck Berry by Joe Perry
6) Jimi Hendrix by John Mayer
7) James Brown by Rick Rubin
8) Little Richard by Little Richard
9) Aretha Franklin by Jerry Wexler
10) Ray Charles by Van Morrison
11) Bob Marley by Wyclef Jean
12) The Beach Boys by Lindsey Buckingham
13) Buddy Holly by John Mellencamp
14) Led Zeppelin by David Grohl
15) Stevie Wonder by Elton John
16) Sam Cooke by Art Garfunkel
17) Muddy Watters by Billy Gibbons
18) Marvin Gaye by Smokey Robinson
19) The Velvet Underground by Julian Casablancas
20) Bo Diddley by Iggy Pop
21) Otis Redding by Steve Cropper
22) U2 by Chris Martin
23) Bruce Springsteen by Jackson Browne
24) Jerry Lee Lewis by Moby
25) Fats Domino by Dr. John
26) The Ramones by Lenny Kaye
27) Nirvana by Vernon Reid
28) Prince by Ahmir Thompson
29) The Who by Eddie Vedder
30) The Clash by The Edge
31) Johnny Cash by Kris Kristofferson
32) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles by Bob Seger
33) The Everly Brothers by Paul Simon
34) Neil Young by Flea
35) Michael Jackson by Antonio "LA" Reid
36) Madonna by Britney Spears
37)Roy Orbison by K.D. Lang
38) John Lennon by Lenny Kravitz
39) David Bowie by Lou Reed
40) Simon and Garfunkel by James Taylor
41) The Doors by Marilyn Manson
42) Van Morrison by Peter Wolf
43) Sly and the Family Stone by Don Was
44) Public Enemy by Adam Yauch
45) The Byrds by Tom Petty
46) Janis Joplin by Rosanne Cash
47) Patti Smith by Shirley Manson
48) Run-DMC by Chuck D
49) Elton John by Billy Joel
50) The Band by Lucinda Williams
Go see for yourself. Guess who are conspicuously absent (and deservedly so)?
http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2846
Edited, Thu Apr 1 21:17:04 2004 by Deathwysh
Edited, Thu Apr 1 21:17:33 2004 by Deathwysh
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8) Little Richard by Little Richard
Of course. There is no greater Little Richard fan.
Lol, that's a riot. Wait, this one was supposed to be a joke, right?
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