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gbaji wrote:
Not intentionally, no. But it's clear that you singled out the Fox poll and made a specific point...
No, you just missed the point. Then threw yourself into a tizzy because that's pretty much what you do.
No. I perfectly got the point. And there's no tizzy. I do find it funny that you constantly feel the need to inject the assumption of some kind of emotional response on my part though. It's like you can't respond to the logic of my argument, so you just pretend that I'm "in a tizzy". Um... How about actually just responding to what I write instead of speculating about my mindset when I wrote it? Speaks volumes when you do this btw.
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Then explain why you made a point about the likelihood of a Fox News poll including folks who don't normally vote in GOP primaries
I was mocking your previous assertion that everyone polled who was supporting Trump wasn't really a voter.
That was not my assertion. That's your straw man version of my assertion.
Everyone? Really?
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Fox's poll was of likely voters. I used the Fox poll because, well, it was that day's most recent poll.
Ok. Again. Explain why you made a point to say this:
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Man, Fox is asking a whole lot of secret Democrats what they think. And their filter process must be complete *** since they're only asking total non-voters in their poll of likely Republican voters.
Sure looks to me like you were attempting to argue that since it was a Fox poll, this meant it could not be affected by the factors I have previously asserted are contributing to Trump's high polling numbers. Your argument only makes sense if you assume there cannot be any people in the list of categories that I previously stated are contributing to Trumps numbers in a Fox poll (presumably as opposed to other polls which we've previously discussed). I don't recall you ever singling out a given poll source and discounting it as something that could be influenced by those factors before. You only did it here, and only with a Fox poll.
Given the knee jerk "Faux News" jokes that run rampant in liberal circles, I find it hard to believe that you weren't going there with this. I mean, I suppose it's possible, but I'm sure you can see why I'd assume you were making this about the fact that it was a Fox poll and not CNN or Newsweek, or some other source.
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Not my fault it took you a week to come by and start having conniptions.
And here's you doing the projected emotion thing again.
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You know, this stuff should have been pretty obvious if you were more interested in reading than you were about throwing fits.
And again. I get that it's easier to dismiss someone's disagreement with you by just labeling it as an emotional response, but that only speaks to your own state of mind, not mine.
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The part where you thought Fox News polls were online, uncontrolled polls of Fox News viewers and then frantically insisted you were just testing me was pretty funny though so thanks for that.
Nothing frantic about it. Again, you're arguing every single thing *except* the actual question here. Is a Fox news poll more or less likely to be influenced by the factors I have previously mentioned regarding Trump? Yes, or no? If yes, then there was zero reason for you to make the post. If no, then you were, in fact, suggesting some kind of bias towards "true conservatives" in a Fox poll.
All I did was attempt to explore those possibilities by asking you some questions. Your response has been pretty amusing. The phrase "desperately back pedaling" comes immediately to mind.