Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Plurality is not majority though, right?
Hence my use of the word "plurality".
But you need a majority of delegates to win the nomination. So we agree that this doesn't mean he can or will win the nomination? Great. We're done. You intentionally used a term that supports my position and not yours. Thanks!
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Right though, polling indicates that out of every four GOP voters, at least one is saying "You know what? I really like what the Trump guy is saying".
"GOP voters" defined as "anyone who says they might vote in the GOP primary this time around when cold called by a pollster". Just making sure you grasp that this doesn't have much relevance in terms of who will actually win a nomination for a given party. Hair on fire candidates tend to create interest, but that interest tends to be by those who aren't really very politically active, and are unlikely to actually vote come primary day, and historically cause incredibly inaccurate polling predictions.
I was reading some site yesterday that first pointed out that this years GOP primary has a very high percentage of people who poll as following the primary "very closely" (like 82% versus most non-incumbent primaries peaking at around 75%). It also made a point to show that the higher this number is, the
less accurate polling numbers are at predicting the outcome of the primary. This is because those added people tend to be those who have the least political savvy, and are the least likely to actual vote. This is where Trump is getting most of his polling numbers from.
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So what? Obama turned out unprecedented numbers of first time voters to the polls during the primaries and general election. Those people were really Republicans in disguise or something?
Lol. Trump is not Obama. Oh. And polls showed Clinton wining by a large margin in late 2007. Hence my point above. It was actually one of the examples in the article I read.
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Edit: I do love, though, how Gbaji's response to anything about Republican racism is "NO! Democrats did it!!". Which comes to a head here with saying that the guy who will make Mexico pay for a giant wall to keep its rapists and murdering population out and we'll round up the Muslims and track them (when not keeping them out) is really a big liberal only pretending to be a conservative and Democrats would be voting for him if only he was running on their side. It's like there's no other mechanism in Gbaji's brain beyond "Blame Democrats".
Um... Which is why I keep pointing out that Trump does not actually reflect the views or opinions of the majority of conservatives. He's a very good example of the strawman version that liberals love to trot out though. Which is why you liberals love him (he matches your narrative), and why he has such high negatives among conservatives (he makes us look bad by association). It's why the media pays so much attention to him. Finally, they have a GOP candidate who actually lives up to what they think a conservative candidate should look like.
He's not a conservative. He's a liberal who's adopted the persona that liberals *think* conservatives are. I'm not sure how many times or in how many different ways I can say this. I just find it funny that you repeatedly make the whole "See! Conservatives really are bigoted like I've always believed" claim, while apparently failing to notice that Trump is not remotely like conservatives. He's like how you wish conservatives were, so as to make your own "side" look a bit better.
Painting the other guy with warts doesn't make your look any better. Just a thought. And covering one of your own guys in warts and then having him stand in a crowd with the other guys doesn't really prove anything either. Trump is a liberal. He's always been a liberal. Just look at his nearly reflexive fall back to big government solutions to every problem. He believes that government is the solution to most/all problems. That should be your first clue that he's not conservative. He's savvy enough to parrot the conservative slogans, but when he's asked a policy question and isn't giving a bumper sticker answer, it's obvious that he's a liberal. Just putting an "R" after your name doesn't make you a conservative. And he's no conservative.
Edited, Dec 9th 2015 6:40pm by gbaji