Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 EditionFollow

Well, he didn't of course. Congress wrote the majority of the list but it sounds better on TownHall to say "Obama!"

Which is what Tirith was saying originally anyway, that there's a divide different Muslim nations in US foreign policy. But, as noted, Trump hasn't exactly been a model of US foreign policy standards in the past week so why not have him defend it on his own grounds rather than relying on "But Congress Obama!"? If he has great reasons for blocking people from Sudan and not from Saudi Arabia (home of the 9/11 hijacker) then I'm sure he'll explain them right?

Unless, of course, his "reason" was "We have no idea what the fuck we're doing but we found this list in a shoebox while cleaning out the closets..." which is at least as likely as "Because business interests".

No, he actually called out Christians as having been treated "very terribly" or some such, even though they have in fact enjoyed some protection under Assad, and said that allowing them in would be prioritized. Over whom else but Muslims?

I think this is a case where political correctness makes real world decision making more difficult than it should be. We're left in the astounding situation where we know that the terrorists coming from the set of nations in question are all operating under a radical version of Islam, yet we're not allowed to make the most obvious first pass selection based on "are you a Muslim from <country on list>" when making vetting decisions for visas, immigration, or refugee status. Because.... well... it's just "wrong". Or something.

I know it's horribly un-PC, but one of the defining characteristics of being a radical Islamic terrorist is being a follower of Islam. It's not like anyone's proposing loading everyone who's Muslim into cargo cars and shipping them off to detention centers or anything. Focusing your vetting attention on people who are Islamic when looking for radical members of that religion isn't exactly a silly way to go about this. What's silly is wasting vetting efforts on people who can't possibly be members of said terrorist organizations, but we feel like we have to anyway so as not to appear to be profiling or whatever.

And so we use some silly linguistic tap dance to pretend we're not actually doing exactly what we are doing. Just like always.

Traditionally, by that time it's too late. But I suppose that's only a concern if you actually care about whether or not Muslims are loaded into cargo cars.

Literally the first thing in the "Supreme Law of The United States"


So are you just a strict constitutionalist on wednesdays or did you eat bath salts again?

So, like the way he paid lip service to housing discrimination laws while still refusing to rent to colored folks. Got it.

Not Daddy, Donnie.

Apple, tree, etc.

If only there was a major party candidate who offered any other trade policy.

He meant major party in his district - so a choice between the republican party, the tea party and the survivors of incest support group.

Just write in "What Joph Said" on all your ballots.

Edited, Jan 30th 2017 11:04pm by TirithRR

Shouldn't we worry more about being a terrorist than being Muslim? Crazy thoughts, I know. It's not as though it's impossible for a white conservative boy who likes Trump to go kill a bunch of people engaged in religious worship or anything.

Anyway, the Day One protests were just the start of organizing. Sounds as though people are taking pages from the Tea Party handbook (who in turn stole their method from Alinsky so I guess we're full circle?):

Flea is going to a meeting tonight of people organizing; town meetings, numbers to call, setting up to run candidates in local elections, etc. I was reading about how Twitter/Facebook/etc are letting people set up these flash protests like this weekend at the airport. Every day is another half dozen "action items" on my Facebook feed and who to hassle about them. Prediction: Within a year, Trump starts talking about how we need to clamp down on social media. Unamerican activities and all that.

If there weren't any Christians there wouldn't be any Muslims, and there wouldn't be any Christians if it weren't for the Jews so we've conclusive proven that Hitler was right.