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#2477 Feb 21 2017 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Poor Milo got dumped as the keynote speaker of CPAC.
And his book deal, apparently. Which is absolutely shocking considering his position at Breitbart and our constant assurance of their yuge integrity and of their being the only source of real news anywhere in the world.

Speaking of 45, possibly his first smart move in naming Herbert Raymond McMaster to replace that idiot Flynn as National Security Advisor. He wrote a pretty good book about how it's bad to not question high-ranking officers and presidents on their war time strategies. He's also quite the intellectual who has shaped a lot of the military. This is the kind of guy you'd actually want on the job so he'll probably get himself gone'd before November, but at least he'll get sacked for integrity.


Eh, maybe he'll stage a coup.
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#2478 Feb 21 2017 at 5:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Poor Milo got dumped as the keynote speaker of CPAC.
And his book deal, apparently. Which is absolutely shocking considering his position at Breitbart and our constant assurance of their yuge integrity and of their being the only source of real news anywhere in the world.

And now he's out at Breitbart, that shining beacon of ethical reporting.

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Speaking of 45, possibly his first smart move in naming Herbert Raymond McMaster to replace that idiot Flynn as National Security Advisor. He wrote a pretty good book about how it's bad to not question high-ranking officers and presidents on their war time strategies. He's also quite the intellectual who has shaped a lot of the military. This is the kind of guy you'd actually want on the job so he'll probably get himself gone'd before November, but at least he'll get sacked for integrity.

I'm always skeptical of "I've known this guy for 20 years and he's a class act" type fluff pieces, but apparently McMaster is legit respected by both sides. Plus, he's a hell of a battlefield commander.
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And now he's out at Breitbart, that shining beacon of ethical reporting.

There's not enough irony in the world to handle him blaming his resignation on edited and out-of-context video.
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#2480 Feb 22 2017 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
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Well, looks like this is where the line is.

Alt-right/Conservatism loves racism, sexism, etc, but man, do they hate gay pedophilia more than they love those things.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2017 7:05am by Timelordwho
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#2481 Feb 22 2017 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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But they sure do like Russia all of a sudden.
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#2483 Feb 22 2017 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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But they sure do like Russia all of a sudden.


They don't love Russia. They love right wing authoritarianism. Russia is financing that right now, so...
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#2484 Feb 22 2017 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Timelordwho wrote:
Well, looks like this is where the line is.

Alt-right/Conservatism loves racism, sexism, etc, but man, do they hate gay pedophilia more than they love those things.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2017 7:05am by Timelordwho



I think it's more the traditional Conservatives that freaked out over his hebephiliac ways, right? Because of course free speech only extends to things that don't repel me, personally.

I've seen a lot of chatter on the alt-Reich along the lines of "if there's grass on the field, play ball, hyuk-hyuk", which may be intended to shock and provoke but which certainly falls in line with this particular attention *****'s patois.

The old-guard Conservatives, both fiscal and social, are at a loss when it comes to this sort of behavior. The alt-Reich is out there advocating to tear down taboos, mores and systems, not to conserve them.
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#2485 Feb 22 2017 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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Those comments are mostly An-Caps, not Alt-Reich. While they may occasionally look similar, they are about as close as lib dem and Stalinists.
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#2486 Feb 22 2017 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Well, alt-right is defined in opposition to the mainstream right, so it's not a coherent group. I guess whether ancaps are considered alt reich depends on whether you consider alt-reich a simple slur/play on words of alt right or a more specific term (facist alt right).

Personally, I think ancaps should all be made outlaws so I can hunt them for sport.
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I've seen a lot of chatter on the alt-Reich along the lines of "if there's grass on the field, play ball, hyuk-hyuk", which may be intended to shock and provoke

Generally speaking, these are not people capable of finding age-appropriate female companionship via the traditional routes.
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#2488 Feb 22 2017 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I've seen a lot of chatter on the alt-Reich along the lines of "if there's grass on the field, play ball, hyuk-hyuk", which may be intended to shock and provoke

Generally speaking, these are not people capable of finding age-appropriate female companionship via the traditional routes.


Oh, I pretty much assume they keep the Real Doll business afloat.
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#2489 Feb 22 2017 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
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I've seen a lot of chatter on the alt-Reich along the lines of "if there's grass on the field, play ball, hyuk-hyuk", which may be intended to shock and provoke

Generally speaking, these are not people capable of finding age-appropriate female companionship via the traditional routes.


Oh, I pretty much assume they keep the Real Doll business afloat.


The ones who don't have money, at least.
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#2490 Feb 22 2017 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Hookers cheaper.

Or ... so I'm told ...
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#2491 Feb 22 2017 at 10:56 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Well, looks like this is where the line is.

Alt-right/Conservatism loves racism, sexism, etc, but man, do they hate gay pedophilia more than they love those things.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2017 7:05am by Timelordwho



I think it's more the traditional Conservatives that freaked out over his hebephiliac ways, right? Because of course free speech only extends to things that don't repel me, personally.

I've seen a lot of chatter on the alt-Reich along the lines of "if there's grass on the field, play ball, hyuk-hyuk", which may be intended to shock and provoke but which certainly falls in line with this particular attention *****'s patois.

The old-guard Conservatives, both fiscal and social, are at a loss when it comes to this sort of behavior. The alt-Reich is out there advocating to tear down taboos, mores and systems, not to conserve them.

Ross Douthat's column today did a decent job trying to define the Milo appeal. I think it's overbroad, especially as it relates to the traditional Religious Right, but it pretty accurately captures his appeal to the Return of Kings and Gamergate types of deplorables.
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#2492 Feb 22 2017 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, but that's not what they are looking for. Although, most An-Caps generally believe prostitution being illegal is a travesty. One of the few places we agree, I guess.
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In simplest terms, the right just falls all over itself when it finds someone from a "liberal" demographic who espouses conservative views. A gay guy, a black guy, a young woman -- look, they're saying that bakers shouldn't have to make cakes for SSM cermonies, that reverse racism is real, that women should have to buy their own contraceptives! Where's your god now, liberals?! We must be right because out of umpity-million [demographic] people, we found one who agrees with us! Someday they'll find a pretty young photogenic black lesbian who is an avid Trump supporter and you'll think the Rapture is upon us.

Milo is something of a unique case in his championing of neckbeard causes (you can't get a date because of feminism, really!) but hardly a unique one.

I don't think the left is immune to this sort of thing but rather most major right-wing demographics already have enough representation on the left (working class, the wealthy, etc) that it's hard to make anyone a hero based on that criteria. Maybe the occasional religious type -- witness the leftward popularity of Pope Francis among people who ordinarily would dismiss his opinions as outdated religious babble. The Pontiff could probably get a book published, though. There's that one old liberal military guy who keeps finding his way into my Facebook feed. Without the military credentials I don't know that many people would care what he's saying.

Edit: Actually, an even more extreme example is the Left's tendency to get all jazzed up about any Republican politician who strays from conservative orthodoxy. "Hey, that guy said that maybe anthropogenic climate change is real! Boy, there's a Republican I could vote for!". Never mind that he voted to ban Planned Parenthood, visits a Whites Only golf course and wants people using food stamps to work 16 hours a week in the salt mines -- he said maybe we're partially responsible for something obvious so let's put that man on a stamp. That sort of nonsense tends to be fleeting though; they don't wind up in prominent positions in major partisan media outlets.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2017 11:18am by Jophiel
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#2494 Feb 22 2017 at 11:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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So nobody opted to make a buoyancy joke about Real Dolls? Man, I just lob 'em up there and y'all just let 'em clunk you in the head.
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#2495 Feb 22 2017 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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I always fill them up with cement before I dump them in the lake.

Oh, wait, we're not talking about ancaps anymore, nevermind.
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Wait a second, two posts on the same subject, capitalisation of Real Doll in line with corporate policy...

Samira, have you sold your account to Real Doll's advertising department? You have to tell me if you have, I don't want to be caught with my pants down here.
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#2497 Feb 22 2017 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
In simplest terms, the right just falls all over itself when it finds someone from a "liberal" demographic who espouses conservative views. A gay guy, a black guy, a young woman -- look, they're saying that bakers shouldn't have to make cakes for SSM cermonies, that reverse racism is real, that women should have to buy their own contraceptives! Where's your god now, liberals?! We must be right because out of umpity-million [demographic] people, we found one who agrees with us! Someday they'll find a pretty young photogenic black lesbian who is an avid Trump supporter and you'll think the Rapture is upon us.

So essentially their looking for a figurehead to validate the rejection of rigid identity politics (i.e. "if you're female, brown, poor or gay, you MUST vote for Democrats"). Why do they always have to pick complete cretins like Milo and David Clarke? Just for the sake of novelty, or is it the shock value of the completely bonkers things they say and support?
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#2498 Feb 22 2017 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Realdoll is one of Zam's few remaining advertising partners due to all the filter breaking,
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In simplest terms, the right just falls all over itself when it finds someone from a "liberal" demographic who espouses conservative views. A gay guy, a black guy, a young woman -- look, they're saying that bakers shouldn't have to make cakes for SSM cermonies, that reverse racism is real, that women should have to buy their own contraceptives! Where's your god now, liberals?! We must be right because out of umpity-million [demographic] people, we found one who agrees with us! Someday they'll find a pretty young photogenic black lesbian who is an avid Trump supporter and you'll think the Rapture is upon us.

So essentially their looking for a figurehead to validate the rejection of rigid identity politics (i.e. "if you're female, brown, poor or ***, you MUST vote for Democrats"). Why do they always have to pick complete cretins like Milo and David Clarke? Just for the sake of novelty, or is it the shock value of the completely bonkers things they say and support?


The pickings are slim among those demo groups who can also do public speaking/self promotion.
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#2500 Feb 22 2017 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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How buoyant are Real Dolls?

Be a newsworthy way to travel to Cuba. Call it a Poontoon.
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So essentially their looking for a figurehead to validate the rejection of rigid identity politics (i.e. "if you're female, brown, poor or ***, you MUST vote for Democrats"). Why do they always have to pick complete cretins like Milo and David Clarke? Just for the sake of novelty, or is it the shock value of the completely bonkers things they say and support?

Beats me. I find it more amusing that the Clinton/Trump vote may be split 95/5 (or whatever, I'm too lazy to look) but that's still one guy in twenty out of a population of ~35 million. But people act like it's like finding a unicorn to say "This black guy says Trump is keen" and hang on to him throughout almost any nonsense. The importance they place on these people only amplifies the other stuff. Just go find a different black guy!
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