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No one becomes something just because they say they are.
Sure they do. All the time, in fact. Christians, Democrats, whatever. People assign themselves to groups by making choices all the time.
There's usually a little more to being a christian, or democrat than just saying you are.
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If what you say is true, then there would have to be some subset of people who were "saying" they were transgendered who were "wrong". Is that really what you believe? That some subset of trans people are somehow invalid because they only "say" they are? Really?
Sure, there are plenty of people who think they may be trans, but aren't sure. Some of them eventually determine that they are not.
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Either they are, or they are not. The facts don't change just because there is no proof, or because no one knows the truth.
Yeah, listen, Calvinism is a *little* passe. I understand your point, and the petty fear it arises from, but it's exceptionally unlikely that someone is "born" transgendered any more than someone is "born" gay or "born" straight, or whatever. Gender identity is too complex to be something derived genetically from birth. Attempting to make it something else, like skin color, is idiotic.
Who said it was? There is a middle ground between something being genetic and unchangeable, like skin color, and being a choice that can be changed at any time for any reason, like what you want to eat for dinner. Some things can be influenced by someone's environment, or choices, but still not be a simple choice for them to make at any time. This is one of those.
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Rachel9 wrote:
Ok, but the word "man" doesn't mean "A person who the law of the current state recognizes as a male."
It usually does when using it as a criteria to determine some gender-based inclusion or exclusion (who to let in your restroom, who to award a scholarship to, who to allow into your He-Man Woman Haters club, etc).
No, it really doesn't. More appropriate would be "biological (fe)male" to refer to a person's (original) sex, "legally fe(male)", to refer to what the law considers them. Hell, even just male or female would be much better, if that's too much trouble for you.
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You're repeating a known existing position that you've oh so clearly been spoon fed.
Well, either that, or i've just gotten really sick of being called a man, and came up with it on my own.