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You know, I'm at a loss here. On the one hand, every fiber of my being shouts out "No one could possibly be this stupid." On the other hand I feel this ovewhelming amount of pity for you, much as I would for a confused retarded kid trying to find his way home from the airport. Let me see if I can dumb this down enough for you to comprehend it:


No, I'm accusing you of not understanding the language I guess. The quote you've pulled about three times now says "You could etc.." Which means, hypothetically, as you've previously pointed out, one could do something. For example.

You could seek help for your obvious mental handicap and I'd still belittle you.

Now, MORON, is there anything about the above phrase that indicates that you would have allready sought help? You see the word "could" implies that something has not happened yet. I realize it looks a lot like the word "cloud" to you which means big white fluffy things that rain comes out of, so it's confusing, but I'd hope that it's clear now.



Indeed. It'd be nice if you read it accurately. However, that ISN'T going to happen because you're mentally crippled in some signifigant way I'm unaware of I guess.



What assertion? That you could prove that Christer Bunny wasn't real Christians would still think he was? That's going to be tough to prove, considering I'm not a Christian, but Empyre is and has posted multiple times on this thread that it wouldn't matter to him, he'd still believe.

THUS QED I've proved my assertion. Yay, I win.


Nope, just did it.



Let me say this again LEARN TO READ. You could spend thirty years learning how to read and still not understand the meaning of the word could. SEE! That doesn't mean you have spent thirty years, now does it?

This sinking in yet, Stephen Hawking?



Allready did. Imbicille.

You're going to realize that at some point while reading this and look back and say *********** what an ingorant *** I am" and then probably stop posting. I look forward to it with great anticipation.



Nope, you're the only one, sport.

Other people were making the point that there hasn't been definitive proof that Christer Bunny never existed. Which is I guess, the idiots attempt at arguing that he did. Considering there's no definitive proof that the Easter Bunny never existed, either that wouldn't fill me with confidence of his existence were I them. They weren't operating under the assumption that I was indicating that any such proof had been offered, merely pointing out that it hadn't been.

Not only have you missed the point of my post, you've also missed the point of other people's[b] posts. This would conclusively prove I'm afraid that it's not that I have a problem communicating, but [b]you have a problem understanding.


Forgive me if I refuse to dumb it down to second grade reading level for you.

Get it yet?

How about you stop insulting me long enough to answer the question put to you?

I asked a simple question, to substantiate the claim that you made earlier. Why not just give your proof of the non existence of Christ, rather than using name calling and personal insults to try and sidetrack the discussion?

You stated it could be proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Christ didn't exist. Fine, I'm asking you to prove it, plain and simple. Give us verifiable proof that Christ never existed and my next post will be an apology to you.

Continue to throw personal insults at me rather than present logical proof and I can only assume that you don't have an intellectual leg to stand on in this debate.

No, *** pirate, I didn't.

LEARN

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You DIDN'T say that? Well, why don't you repost exactly what it was you DID say so that you can show how it was I misquoted you?

I think it's pretty obvious you have no clue what you're talking about. You anger at being asked to substantiate your own claim gives you away.

I'd suggest you take a trip to one of those community colleges you despise. Maybe there you'll learn to use your brain to reason rather than just insult people.

This is where someone with an ounce of courage or self accountability posts

*********** sorry, you're right. I didn't pay enough attention when I was reading that"

Alternately it's where petty pathetic ******* become overwhelmed with insecurities and try poorly to lash out and somehow justify not understanding something incredibly simple.

I can hazard a pretty good guess which one you are.

Yes, I know. Unlike, I imagine, everyone else posting on this topic, I did some research about the "bad carbon dating" claims and they're not based on evidence at all. In point of fact, if they were, all it would take was re-carbon dating the shroud with a more representative sample.

That isn't happeneing, however. Do you know why?

Because the Vatican refuses to do so. And...

And this is the best part...

The Vatican will not accept Carbon-14 dating as a valid method of authenticating the age of anything because Carbon-14 dating allows for the dating of objects before, in the Catholic Church's oppinion, the world existed.

It would be very easy to verify the dating of the shroud. Simple in fact. That would serve no purpose for the Catholic Church however, who is happiest the way things currently are. The shroud is a relic that attracts attention to the Church, and there is enough "doubt" about the previous Carbon dating of it to muddy the waters for those who might be detered by facts.

Perfect for them. They'll never let it be tested again.

Me too. It's a hell of a painting.

Okay, this is going to be my last post on this as I'm sure nothing anyone says is going to make you see how completely wrong you are. It's just not worth it.

First of all, you're right I screwed up. I allowed your juvenile name calling to annoy me to the point where I gave you the opening to twist your words after the fact.

Yes, your statement could have meant a complete hypothetical, ie. even if there was proof beyond a reasonable doubt of christ's non existence, it wouldn't matter to the christians. It ALSO could have meant, even though there IS proof beyond a reasonable doubt of Christ's non existence, showing that proof wouldn't matter to the christians. I'm not stupid enough to ask which interpretation you meant at the time, as I'm sure it will magically be whatever fits your needs now. Let's however, look at some of the things you posted AFTER that statement and before I called you on it and asked for the proof you feel is out there:







I could go on into your comparisons with the easter bunny, but this is plenty to show that until you were asked to prove it, you were pretty certain there was proof of Christ's non existence out there for you to pull up. This reminds me of another thing you posted:



You're right, I don't know you, you don't know me, but you've done some pretty neat backpedaling yourself in this thread.

As for the name calling and insults you've heaped on me, allow me to quote you one last time.



All I can say is thank you for the applause smasharoo.

Keep the applause coming smashie, I love it!

Oops, you're right, I'm wrong.

I DID say that would be my last post, and couldn't refrain from thanking you for the applause. I was without a doubt wrong on that one.

There you go, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong, and don't have a problem giving credit to the person who's right.

By the way, is that the best insult you can level at me? Calling me a Republican??? Now that I understand personal attacks are your form of kudos, I was kind of enjoying them, but really, you can think of better than that.

Personally, I'd rather have someone kill my wife and then force me to **** the corpse with a sausage created from the ground up remains of my children than be a Republican.

That's just me though.

You didn't really just say that, didja Smash? I seem to recall another thread where you made the same claim, FOUR times, but still continued to respond frantically. Here's a little refresher, in case you've forgotten...









I dunno, I guess that your sermon strikes me as just a little inconsistent with your behavior.

nice avatar thundra. there is a club in dallas it reminds me of. theres a little area above the club you access through a little hole in the wall. in the back of this area there is a walkway that gets smaller (like in alice in wonderland) and ends in a small room full of beanbag chairs and has tv's built into the wall that play nothing but static. not even sure if its still around but it was called Club One.

ah..the good times.

Know what? I actually agree with you on this one Empyre.

That being said, I hope Satan bought a new winter jacket and mittens.