I just don't understand sometimes and felt like ranting (lil bored at work right now too...)
Why do party leaders not research their campsites before leaving town?
This past weekend my party went out to fight the colabri's in Wajaom; when we arrived we were the only party there.
This camp (as most of you know) has 2 really good campsites for 2 good parties. If there are 2 great parties the chains will still be high but the birds will be pulled upon popping. If you have 3 great parties there then virtually it's every party for themselves mentality. If you have 4 parties yay c1 for everyone....
Ok we get there and are doing great. Another party shows up and they are also doing great. We are even fighting over some pops but it isn't too bad. Well an hour goes by and a 3rd party sets up... They aren't doing as great so although it impacts us ~ it's not as bad as it could be...
Then the coup de gras (hopefully I spelled that right).... A 4th party shows up and sets up between all 3 parties... Why? WHY? They setup and during the time they setup there are no birds anywhere for anyone to pull... Did they not see this?
Well anyways ~ I do a /shout Why setup camp here there aren't enough birds for the 3 parties already here? Then get a tell from the 2nd party letting me know that they would be leaving soon. Course I let them know that I wasn't referring to them since they had more claim to be there than the 4th party. And I know anyone can setup camp anywhere but why not be smart about it?
Course 30 minutes go by and the 2nd great party had left and then the 4th party wiped and I guess the 3rd party gave up and we continued on til it was obvious with our new lvls we needed to move since xp was cheap.
It seems like more than ever in the new areas parties have accepted camping over other parties... Why?
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My person experience in the camps outside of the city is that there are like 3-4 different places to camp begin with over that huge area. So I find it is weird just to camp over another PT instead of moving to a different part of map to camp.
Camping near/over another PT is one thing. Another thing that really annoys me is people trade words for losing a pull. When I pull as Ranger and Bard, I got people send me triads when I claim a mob faster than another PT. But then... I have had people send me rubbish for saying no to join their PT.
Camping near/over another PT is one thing. Another thing that really annoys me is people trade words for losing a pull. When I pull as Ranger and Bard, I got people send me triads when I claim a mob faster than another PT. But then... I have had people send me rubbish for saying no to join their PT.
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When I pull as Ranger and Bard, I got people send me triads when I claim a mob faster than another PT.
lol ; ; I get that alot too. Players slapping me when my song hits before their arrow. Course I've lost alot of pulls to others as well (it's just part of the game). :P
But the complaints in /say or in /tell or /emotes are kindof funny.... Heck you never know if you will be xping w/ those people tomorrow so why "ruffle feathers".
A guy accused our BRD of being a gilbuyer.
He was angry that our BRD was outpulling them, since they showed up at our one PT camp and were real jerks about staying.
Pulling speed = Gilbuying?
(^^)b
He was angry that our BRD was outpulling them, since they showed up at our one PT camp and were real jerks about staying.
Pulling speed = Gilbuying?
(^^)b
My opinion about camping near another PT is... if another group(s) is (are) here first, and if I am not convinced that there are enough mobs, we move and don't deal with potential drama. I don't try to kick out another PT who is earlier first by "outpulling."
I do despise people NOT checking the numbers of PTs in the same area ahead of time or groups insist of trying to kick another group out of a place when the other group is here ahead of us. It is win-win game if you check camp ahead, and forcefully over camp only does bad to everyone : you get less exp, and may brew a fight (in a damn game that is meant for fun).
I do despise people NOT checking the numbers of PTs in the same area ahead of time or groups insist of trying to kick another group out of a place when the other group is here ahead of us. It is win-win game if you check camp ahead, and forcefully over camp only does bad to everyone : you get less exp, and may brew a fight (in a damn game that is meant for fun).
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
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but when there is nothing left to take away.
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Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
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but when there is nothing left to take away.
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Ya I hear both of you ~ parties that try to run over the parties that were there originally just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
The ToAU areas are really large so it's sometimes impossible to know if the campsite you are thinking of is taken ~ so sometimes you have to go there and find out.
Worse case scenario move along to a different site.
Heck last night we got to a puk camp to find a pt there but they were just about to leave and told us in /say. Course before their /say we were discussing which other puk camp to go to ~ so it was nice that they updated us before we moved on.
I was bummed tho cause I would have so preferred xping on Flamingo's in sky and it seems the new players don't even know what sky is. -.-
The ToAU areas are really large so it's sometimes impossible to know if the campsite you are thinking of is taken ~ so sometimes you have to go there and find out.
Worse case scenario move along to a different site.
Heck last night we got to a puk camp to find a pt there but they were just about to leave and told us in /say. Course before their /say we were discussing which other puk camp to go to ~ so it was nice that they updated us before we moved on.
I was bummed tho cause I would have so preferred xping on Flamingo's in sky and it seems the new players don't even know what sky is. -.-
It's like that when you're meriting in the mire or the woodlands ><
Seriously, EXP sucks in those zones unless you have little to no competition, if you do you're better off going somewhere else but nooooooo people are too lazy to go to sky to EXP anymore.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm sick of ppl shooting down ideas about going somewhere else when everyone is crying about exp.
Seriously, EXP sucks in those zones unless you have little to no competition, if you do you're better off going somewhere else but nooooooo people are too lazy to go to sky to EXP anymore.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm sick of ppl shooting down ideas about going somewhere else when everyone is crying about exp.
shhhh, I normally only merit in Sky, don't give away the secret.
Empty Sky > Crowded Mire/Thickets
Empty Sky > Crowded Mire/Thickets
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Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Lol Furion ~ don't worry sky will still be virtually empty... Lots of ppl still don't have access. Plus there are at least 2 great camps for birdies.
I usually only merit on PLD in Sky (Trying to cap Sword out before WAR 70).
But now that you mention, I have been known to go solo the Flamingo, they go down easy,
On WAR I just put the flag up and craft, go with the flow usually.
And yes Amanada, people that don't see how many people are in zone before leaving town drive me crazy, especially when the same people insist on camping on top of your PT.
But now that you mention, I have been known to go solo the Flamingo, they go down easy,
On WAR I just put the flag up and craft, go with the flow usually.
And yes Amanada, people that don't see how many people are in zone before leaving town drive me crazy, especially when the same people insist on camping on top of your PT.
I think a lot of people actually have the mentality of "kicking" or "outpull" the other PT... which I think it is foolish.
Sun Tzu says (something like this),"If you can win without fighting, that is the best possible victory."
Sun Tzu says (something like this),"If you can win without fighting, that is the best possible victory."
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
If I'm party leader I always check the areas first with /sea and actually warp out there to check mob availability before setting up camp. I even /sea when I'm not the party leader, but generally the conversation goes:
PersonA: Let's see, 56 people in mire. 40 in thickets.
PersonB: So mire then?
PersonA: Yup, let's go.
PersonA: Let's see, 56 people in mire. 40 in thickets.
PersonB: So mire then?
PersonA: Yup, let's go.
Does anyone actually have experienced people leaving PT (or leaving PT oneself) because of disagreement with camps? I am sure it had happened before, but not sure if anyone in this board had seen that before themselves.
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
I've had a party disband because we had like 4/6 members and two of the four didn't want to go to sky. Wasn't really a big deal because it was only a few people and it wasn't like we had a whole party ready.
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