I had this disastorious PT today... which lasted may be 5-6 fights. The PT composition is somewhat questionable, but that is not what I am venting about.
We had this Tarutaru 38 THF ... with a BLU sub! Who does not know how to skill chain nor use Sneak Attack, which he would just simply use Viper Bite for like 15 points of damage >< and ignore his skillchain parter signals. A few other PT memebers also DO NOT EAT FOOD, and do not pay attention to words from PT leader.
As Corsair in the PT -- I ate squid sushi, shoot bullets, and died a few times before PT disbands (with me like gaining 500 exp in like 1 hour). It just plain terrible to deal with players who doesn't even eat food or learn the basics of the job when someone is spending quite a few gil to level (half a stack of bullets and 2 squid sushi).
FFXI is not as easy as WOW, but it isn't that hard too. May be information and guides of FFXI isn't as easy to get? I do not really think so, when you can just type FFXI in Goggle and Yahoo, and this address of this website would pop as a top links.
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Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
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- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Sorry Amanada, that really sucks.
Unfortunately, most of the people like this don't know that sites like this exist.
Forunately, they seem to find themselves stuck around 50 and quit. (^^)b
(A few get through, I won't mention the WARs I've PTed with that can't keep their shadows up
to save their life, literally never having them up at all and then complaining about getting hit)
Unfortunately, most of the people like this don't know that sites like this exist.
Forunately, they seem to find themselves stuck around 50 and quit. (^^)b
(A few get through, I won't mention the WARs I've PTed with that can't keep their shadows up
to save their life, literally never having them up at all and then complaining about getting hit)
I agree with the above statments O.o
It is hard to tank with only Utsumemi I, so a lot of time WAR/NIN does require a blink tank partner to preform well... One thing however before 50... WAR/MNK > WAR/NIN for tanking -- there is no question about that.
About not eating food, I always think ... those people should have at least seen people eating food in a pt. If you cannot find guides, should at least play copycat what others do >< And people who does not eat food include people that ... are rank 5.
I remember a main forum post about examining JP players, one guy said something like "I examine everyone because I have no idea what to wear" << That is good altitude in a lot of ways, at least pretty obvious that guy is trying to learn to play.
Yesterday or two days ago, my mule catched someone spamming (literally like every 3 sec), Teleport-Dem Reward in Bastok. Someone tell him to stop, that guy responded like "STFU. I will only stop spamming if someone port me." That is worse than not eating food in a PT.
Unfortunately, most of the people like this don't know that sites like this exist. Forunately, they seem to find themselves stuck around 50 and quit. (^^)b
Bad players now can be found even at quite "high level" now.
Why? Go to IGE and ebay and click click and put in your credit card number, and you can get a "high level" character now.
When I am done with FFXI, I am click click too. I click the delete character button instead however.
Buying character and gil are such a lame thing to do. What is the point of playing FFXI when you do not the "journey" part of getting levels and gear?
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 5:29am PDT by scchan
About not eating food, I always think ... those people should have at least seen people eating food in a pt. If you cannot find guides, should at least play copycat what others do >< And people who does not eat food include people that ... are rank 5.
I remember a main forum post about examining JP players, one guy said something like "I examine everyone because I have no idea what to wear" << That is good altitude in a lot of ways, at least pretty obvious that guy is trying to learn to play.
Yesterday or two days ago, my mule catched someone spamming (literally like every 3 sec), Teleport-Dem Reward in Bastok. Someone tell him to stop, that guy responded like "STFU. I will only stop spamming if someone port me." That is worse than not eating food in a PT.
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Unfortunately, most of the people like this don't know that sites like this exist. Forunately, they seem to find themselves stuck around 50 and quit. (^^)b
Bad players now can be found even at quite "high level" now.
Why? Go to IGE and ebay and click click and put in your credit card number, and you can get a "high level" character now.
When I am done with FFXI, I am click click too. I click the delete character button instead however.
Buying character and gil are such a lame thing to do. What is the point of playing FFXI when you do not the "journey" part of getting levels and gear?
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 5:29am PDT by scchan
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
scchan wrote:
It is hard to tank with only Utsumemi I, so a lot of time WAR/NIN does require a blink tank partner to preform well... One thing however before 50... WAR/MNK > WAR/NIN for tanking -- there is no question about that.
Buying character and gil are such a lame thing to do. What is the point of playing FFXI when you do not the "journey" part of getting levels and gear?
Buying character and gil are such a lame thing to do. What is the point of playing FFXI when you do not the "journey" part of getting levels and gear?
Sorry for the confusion, I was reffering to burn PTs I've been in (yes, lolddpld) where there is no tank, but there's commonly that one guy that can't seem to avoid locking hate on himself at the start and not putting shadows up, or attempting to at all, then getting belted around and complaining. I wouldn't mention it if it were a one-time occurence either. (^^)b
And the "journey" is the whole point. It's all about having fun.
Amanada angry? WTF never
the world is ending /cry :P
the world is ending /cry :P
Sometimes I wish people show more fineness in PT, and sometimes fineness is better than spamming too with all those BLU/NIN just spam spells as the worse of all (you can do MORE damage with LESS MP if you a little bit smarter, and does the BLU even remember they got Healing Breeze and Magic Fruit?). A lot of time of fineness is needed for things like BCs and Sky etc.
TP spam and burn PT are fun, but it is also very bad to playing skill imo. What I really pity in the "Age of Burn PT" are Black Mages and Paladins. People rarely invited them to PT, and they are the one who dies first all the time. Manaburn is so much slower than TP burn and is boring as hell.
I really love those people does not rush, and take their time and devotion to try to do well within the allowance of rules of the game. <3 Nebz
Actually I get angry a little more than a lot of people think, but I tend to only take that out on people I am close to. There are a few people who used to post here know about me getting angry \o/
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 11:57am PDT by scchan
TP spam and burn PT are fun, but it is also very bad to playing skill imo. What I really pity in the "Age of Burn PT" are Black Mages and Paladins. People rarely invited them to PT, and they are the one who dies first all the time. Manaburn is so much slower than TP burn and is boring as hell.
I really love those people does not rush, and take their time and devotion to try to do well within the allowance of rules of the game. <3 Nebz
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Amanada angry? WTF never
the world is ending /cry :P
the world is ending /cry :P
Actually I get angry a little more than a lot of people think, but I tend to only take that out on people I am close to. There are a few people who used to post here know about me getting angry \o/
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 11:57am PDT by scchan
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Sub job land tends to have suckass players anyway.
Amanada <33
I agree with you wholeheartedly. It seems that of late in the 30s that there is a lack of finesse to playing the game. Granted alot of people are just there just to get the subjob and stop ~ which is fine. The only thing that I don't understand is why wouldn't you want to do the best you could... Even if it is going to be a subjob ~ why not get their quicker by accessorizing and equiping yourself with appropriate gear and food and trying hard.
Hell... I was asked to tank as blu~ and I grabbed tank food and sat on my melee kabobs.... It's all about how you help your pt....
Don't even get me started about the dark that showed up to party in gear that was 10-15 levels too low (which could be forgivable if the player at least had a decent weapon... which they did not.....) and didn't use food... I wanted to cry when everyone was out damaging the drk (even those with daggers....) MEH!
I agree with you wholeheartedly. It seems that of late in the 30s that there is a lack of finesse to playing the game. Granted alot of people are just there just to get the subjob and stop ~ which is fine. The only thing that I don't understand is why wouldn't you want to do the best you could... Even if it is going to be a subjob ~ why not get their quicker by accessorizing and equiping yourself with appropriate gear and food and trying hard.
Hell... I was asked to tank as blu~ and I grabbed tank food and sat on my melee kabobs.... It's all about how you help your pt....
Don't even get me started about the dark that showed up to party in gear that was 10-15 levels too low (which could be forgivable if the player at least had a decent weapon... which they did not.....) and didn't use food... I wanted to cry when everyone was out damaging the drk (even those with daggers....) MEH!
LOL I wish you were in that party that got me 900xp an hour with 30k TNLs. I bet you'd be cussing up a major storm and MPKing party members XD.
scchan wrote:
TP spam and burn PT are fun, but it is also very bad to playing skill imo. What I really pity in the "Age of Burn PT" are Black Mages and Paladins. People rarely invited them to PT, and they are the one who dies first all the time. Manaburn is so much slower than TP burn and is boring as hell.
I won't get all /emopld on this. I realize my place in the invite list is at the bottom so I'm levelling other jobs to merit my PLD, but what does get to me is:
1. Seeing Melees in absolutely horrid gear getting invites over me. I know PLDs are nowhere near the DD most jobs can be, but I've outdamaged these gimpy players several times while helping Cure and Flash. (Obviously you want some good DDs for burn PTs, so quit letting people leech and invite anyone that can outperform a crapply-geared WAR, MNK, RNG, etc.)
2. People refusing to party anywhere except the Mire or Bhaflua. There can be 50+ in either place, and PTs I've been in have flat out refused to go to (Bibiki Bay, Sky, Ulegeraund Range, insert other place that noone XPs anymore, meaning we can own the zone for much more XP/HR than competing with 6 PTs for the same mobs)
My LS is very good about helping me get to 75 and a nice buffer, and meriting with them. I love all of them for their support, and I've managed to impress them with my versatility, but I know this won't change the average player's mind, so I won't complain about that, just do something to get the merits I want.
/derail off
(^^)b
A lot of people doesn't understand the concept of crowded camps. I was PTing with my JP Tarutaru buddy, and we went to Sky and Ulegrand Range, and we had the whole place for us. It was awesome.
I actually rarely do merit points without at least 2-3 people I know in the PT. I don't like seeking PT... well may be except my Corsair :x
I find that weird too. You can always sell your gear back too, so I am not sure if money is the problem. I think it is more a "f**k that, I just want to be done with that" type altitude.
But the problem with gimping gear and no food actually go beyond 37... May be indeed one has to resort to the kick button to send those guys to Dr Shanatotto's Boot camp for FFXI :3 I really don't think FFXI is that hard of a game @_@
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LOL I wish you were in that party that got me 900xp an hour with 30k TNLs. I bet you'd be cussing up a major storm and MPKing party members XD.
I actually rarely do merit points without at least 2-3 people I know in the PT. I don't like seeking PT... well may be except my Corsair :x
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The only thing that I don't understand is why wouldn't you want to do the best you could...
I find that weird too. You can always sell your gear back too, so I am not sure if money is the problem. I think it is more a "f**k that, I just want to be done with that" type altitude.
But the problem with gimping gear and no food actually go beyond 37... May be indeed one has to resort to the kick button to send those guys to Dr Shanatotto's Boot camp for FFXI :3 I really don't think FFXI is that hard of a game @_@
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
scchan wrote:
May be indeed one has to resort to the kick button to send those guys to Dr Shanatotto's Boot camp for FFXI :3 I really don't think FFXI is that hard of a game @_@
I can see Shanatotto's Boot Camp in Giddeus, full of level 20 War/Nins and meleeing only mages
doing 100 pushups and running laps.
Scholar
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Wow this reminds me of the time i had a party that lasted me 275 exp with my empress band on ..... It was in citadel around 32 first time partying there and i had 2 of my friends with me. Turned out only me and the ranger were doing ANY damage what so ever and because the thf and nin were unable to skill chain and do damage our whm drained all 450 of his mp healing the tank, and 5 minutes later all of us were dead except me and the ranger were alive *casted escape* :/.
Edited, Oct 29th 2006 at 6:42am PST by Chicio
Edited, Oct 29th 2006 at 6:42am PST by Chicio
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My theory on this; is that power lvling people between 1-30 has cause an outbreak of people who never learned how function properly in a group.
I see this cr@p alot in quifim.
Another annoying thing that happens alot is mage classes wearing lvl 1 armor just because they aren't "tanking". Man PTing a biotch in quifim/jungles when your healer goes down in one shot.
I see this cr@p alot in quifim.
Another annoying thing that happens alot is mage classes wearing lvl 1 armor just because they aren't "tanking". Man PTing a biotch in quifim/jungles when your healer goes down in one shot.
My take with PL is... try to PL personally but not a PT ><
I actually find some 20-30 PTs quite fine, but of course I have also seen worse PTs in the 30s than in 20s. Right now I am stuck at level 40 COR >< No one would invite me, NA or JP >< The person actually tried invite me once, I am glad to have turned him down thou... That guy claimed to be 1000 TNM to 39, and is level 38 in Crawlers Nest for 2 hours -_- after I said no. It really sucks to level COR RNG or NIN with really really crappy PTs when you are wasting gil because a few PT members are not doing their part.
I actually find some 20-30 PTs quite fine, but of course I have also seen worse PTs in the 30s than in 20s. Right now I am stuck at level 40 COR >< No one would invite me, NA or JP >< The person actually tried invite me once, I am glad to have turned him down thou... That guy claimed to be 1000 TNM to 39, and is level 38 in Crawlers Nest for 2 hours -_- after I said no. It really sucks to level COR RNG or NIN with really really crappy PTs when you are wasting gil because a few PT members are not doing their part.
Amanada (Cerberus-Retired) (aka MaiNoKen/Steven)
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
-- Thank you for the fun times in Vana'diel
Art for the sake of art itself is an idle sentence.
Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
beautiful and good — that is the creed I seek.
- George Sand
A designer knows he has achieved perfection,
not when there is nothing left to add,
but when there is nothing left to take away.
- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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