SE Takes further action against RMTFollow

In case you didn't know.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/information/060209.html

300 Billion in gil removed from the combined servers. Looks like another strategic strike against RMT. Good game.

/em slaps SE on the buttocks.

Im glad that SE finally did something directly to RMT other than nerf something else. Its about time and long overdue. Aside from hitting the RMTers directly that do the gil selling I really wish they would also nail more gil buyers. Honestly I believe there is A LOT more gil buying going on than people would admit. Another disturbing fact is while I am exping in places I see people mindlessly let gil sellers into thier exp party. Funny thing is some of these people later show up and complain about gil sellers. How hypocritical is that. Blist the ******* and never even communicate with them much.

I have no sympathy for gil sellers or RMTers of any kind or pple that let them into thier partys to help them exp.

Well see thats part of the problem but when I /tell another member of thier party they have (as in the other night) 3 gil sellers in thier party they say "oh well" and keep right on exping. Yes I have a problem with that. Juefer is a fairly well known gs although I know not even all that are on these forums will know him. Oh well I shouldnt be too disapointed I did have the satisfaction of seeing 3 very pathetic pulls and watch them take a dirt nap.

This is true, and do you know how I know how big the problem is? Check out the posts in allahkazaam under the news story about this. The overwhelming consensus among them is that the temporarily lower prices this will cause at the AH will somehow help them. This shows that farming and earning your own gil is dead for the majority of players. They don't even realize that they have to sell stuff to make gil. The lower prices mean you will just make less from selling your stuff too. If it took farming 4 stacks of crystals to buy one stack of your food before the prices dropped then guess what... On average you will still be farming about 4 stacks of those same crystals for your food, the only thing different is you will have smaller numbers to input into the AH for sell and bid price.

The positive thing about this is that NMs will be less monopolized for a while and that cheaters are removed from the game. "Relative" prices will not be affected.

I heard a level 75 player who does not craft or make gil in anyway but has very expensive gear say "I feel like one of those spam vokers" at a nm camp the other day. I think what he was trying to say was that it was his 1st NM camp. Welcome to the world of legitamate play everyone.

Honestly... I do not think you will have much chance to PT with people in RMT LS. But Javolin, I think better you just relax and play the game for fun... and not too picky on exact details. I used to do this... and that caused me really work up in the game and ruins my fun. If you do not like a certain PT members, you have the right to decline to join, but I think your language is a little harsh here.

Honestly, RMT groups will not exist if there are no gil buyers. And sometimes you will find RMT groups are not as evil as they like... Callista, Ethernon and me once run into a group in Sea Serpent Grotto... They may sell gil, but they are actually quite friendlier. Heh I even once send a tell to Cato asking if she willing to sell me something. I got a pretty pleasant response too (she said no, but a quite reasonable reason and she talks very sensibly). A lot of groups that are branded as "Axis of Evil" are not as bad as you think.

I am not defending RMT LSs or Cato LS. I have my own grudge against them, but they are certainly less bad than what people think. A lot of bad names are actually caused by the spreading of rumours and words, and a lot of times they do not deserve what people think.

Just sometimes open the eyes more and listen and find out what is right and wrong yourself. Do not let your LS members or friends tell who so-so bad. Try find the answer yourself. You may still hate that person, but by finding out why you really hate them tell a lot about that person you hate and also yourself.

Add: RMT LSs and Cato are like us... just another person. Anyone should be treated with some diginity even if you hate them.

Edited, Thu Feb 9 17:06:14 2006 by scchan

Did a little price check for some stuff I wanted to see today:

Tavnazian Tacos: From 90k to 70k

Haubergeon: 13-14 mil to 10-11 mil.

Hauberk: 12-13mil to 9-10 mil.

Slowly but surely the prices are going down but someone in my LS reported a pt of gilsellers, forgot to check where as I was Pld and was too busy tanking to check where. Also, although there is no gil for Cerberus right now, I guarantee you that IGE will try and raise more gilsellers.

Like I told my LS: "As long as there is a demand for gil the supply will find a way to renew itself."

Let's hope the prices continue to go down and we can get some decent priced stuff before hand.

If the first quote (from SE) is true, and I hope it is, it sounds to me like its not just their supply getting cut but very soon their whole account as well. If they knew who the gillselling website's mules were, then they might be just checking all the logs to see who was receiving the gil from those mules and planning to ban them. If you buy/bought gil, now might be a good time to save yourself some embarrasment and just quit before you get banned.

Ill give ST another chance when PSU comes out. The one good thing about PSO and cheating was that you could avoid cheaters. If you were hunting a Hildetorr for a Heaven's Punisher you could either lock the room to the public or even play solo and you wouldn't have to ever see a cheater. All the areas in PSO were "instanced". In ffxi there is only one place to go to hunt any specifiic NM, so if you wanted say... a ridill from Fafnir you have to hunt against cheaters, you have no choice.

So, really I think although the cheating was more rampant in PSO it harms the legitamate players more in ffxi. Someone duping a Lavis Cannon can just be ignored and anyone can stil have a chance to get it, but someone botting Speed Belt every day for 2 years is excluding others from a part of the game that they have a right to take a chance at.

Edit: And RMT in ffxi harms the legitamate players more than than duping in PSO hurt legitamate players, because trade (AH, Bazaars, etc.) is neccesary for playing ffxi, but not in PSO. In fact, in many circles on PSO trading of any kind was considered cheating due to the fact that duping/hacking was a well known problem. Among my group of friends on that game we would only trade items that we had just seen drop, and therefore could verify the origen of.

Edited, Fri Feb 10 10:32:21 2006 by NOiSEA

disregard me i found out lmao