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#1 Jun 02 2005 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
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Went on 3 BCNM runs with Cetranne, Phyre, Hirokotzu, Spiridon, myself and Hellcry. 2/3 were successful runs. Cetranne quartered the items. I guess it was discussed earlier. Wasn't discussed by me though. Thought she was going to sell the items in the AH and then disperse the gil among us. Anywayz, she jacked us of our gil. The two major drops were Utsusemi: Ni and Erase. She sold them both for Way under AH price. She said she sent the gil. Then she said she sent the gil to Hirokotzu to split the gil. I asked him, and he said no. So I talked to her again. Then she said to check my delivery box. I did, and still nothing. From there on out, she never returned any of my tells. Now, from what Spiridon and Hirokotzu say, is that she flat out admited that she "stole" the gil from us. Haven't been able to talk with Hellcry, as I haven't seen him on. And when I talked with Phyre, he was leveling a different job, and couldn't check his delivery box immediately. He did say that he checked it late that night when we did do the BCNM but nothing was in there. Oh yeah.... and right after our two major scrolls sold, Cetranne bought a Warp 2 scroll from the AH.

I have screen shots of the two scrolls being sold, and of the scroll that she bought. Also screen shots of the conversation I had with the GM.

Bottom line:

DON'T TRUST CETRANNE AND DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH HER! SHE'S A LYING THEIF THAT DOESN'T GIVE A DARN WHAT SHE DOES TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE!

And I thought gil sellers were bad! Someone stealing your share worth of 2 million gil, that you and others worked for (me putting up and orb, along with Phyre and Spiridon), is just WRONG in MY Book, And Others!

If you'd like me to send you the screen shots for proof, I gladly will! Just send me a message on here or in game. I have no problems with that!

Edited, Sat Jun 18 11:46:56 2005 by Railus
#2 Jun 02 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
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/sigh I havent been on recently Kait or i'm sure i would of heard about this over the LS..I really hope things work out but i doubt they will..ive heard some bad things about Cetranne guess they were true..
#3 Jun 02 2005 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
I can't stress enough, never do a BCNM with a pick up party. And if you do either make sure you can get your cut in advance of agree that whoevers orb it is gets the loot (although this could be the cause of arguments if some runs fail and/or erase/ni only drops on 1 run)

#4 Jun 02 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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#5 Jun 02 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
well so far there has been about 5 threads about cetranne and like i have said in the others befor this y not report this cetranne to a GM. I know they do stuff about it because i knew someone once(name not neededd) he was jking about then he said to me "i am bit starped on gil shall i steal of this BCNM abit" i said dont bother but he still did it

He got away with it for bout a week then he got put in game jail and account blocked. I know it dooesnt get ur guys gill and time wasted back but it is sweet sweet revenge
#6 Jun 02 2005 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
I'm really to hear about this happening to you guys too, that was the whole reason why I posted that other thread 'Cetranne = Scammer & Liar' I didn't want it to happen to anyone else. Hopefully, word will get around so others won't have to go through this.
#7 Jun 02 2005 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I guess i can add more proof that Cetranne has stolen the gil from multiple bcnm runs. Cetranne also did it on a run that included my bro Armondo. Anyway Cetranne is lvling a blm right now lvl 40. I check AH and Cetranne has purchase every scroll of AM a couple that have the price tag of 300-350k each. Also, Armondo was /telling Cetranne trying to get the gil, and he/she admitted to stealing the gil (upwards of 4 million) and having purchased gear for blm up through 60.

Let's not let Cetranne get to level 50!!!!
#8 Jun 02 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
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She got booted out of my LS a few weeks ago, for cursing at people, and calling people gillsellers and alot of other stuff...
#9REDACTED, Posted: Jun 02 2005 at 10:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMFG! U GUYS ARE RIDICOULS! ANYWAY, THIS YOUR GIRL CETRANNE A.K.A. YODIEKO, AND I'M HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF. THERE IS TWO SIDES TO EVERYSTORY...FIRST OF ALL, I DIDNT KEEP THE MONEY! I TOOK MY SPLIT AND HAVE IT TO HIROKOTZU! HE TOOK THE GIL SWORE ME UP AND DOWN HE AS GONNA SPLIT IT. THE ONLY REASON I GAVE IT TO HIM IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVE I WASNT GONNA KEEP IT FOR MYSELF! U GOTTA BELIEVE ME! ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF SINCE KNOW ONE WILL. AND ME A GILSELLER? CHILD PLEASE! I AINT GOT TIME FOR THAT JUNK, FAKE MONEY FOR REAL MONEY? BOY STOP! ANYWAY, GOTTA GO BALLISTA MATCH, HOLLA!
#10 Jun 02 2005 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
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OMFG! U GUYS ARE RIDICOULS! ANYWAY, THIS YOUR GIRL CETRANNE A.K.A. YODIEKO, AND I'M HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF. THERE IS TWO SIDES TO EVERYSTORY...FIRST OF ALL, I DIDNT KEEP THE MONEY! I TOOK MY SPLIT AND HAVE IT TO HIROKOTZU! HE TOOK THE GIL SWORE ME UP AND DOWN HE AS GONNA SPLIT IT. THE ONLY REASON I GAVE IT TO HIM IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVE I WASNT GONNA KEEP IT FOR MYSELF! U GOTTA BELIEVE ME! ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF SINCE KNOW ONE WILL. AND ME A GILSELLER? CHILD PLEASE! I AINT GOT TIME FOR THAT JUNK, FAKE MONEY FOR REAL MONEY? BOY STOP! ANYWAY, GOTTA GO BALLISTA MATCH, HOLLA!
I dunno about you guys, but that right there convinces me she scammed you guys. And isn't it a coincidence that each time this incident pops up, she always has the same story to give? That she gave it to the same person, each time, and that they are withholding it. Either she's found a convenient scapegoat to try to place, or the two of them may have planned it like that.... just a thought, don't want to badmouth Hirokotzu, I do not know him personally, and he may have nothing to do with it. Just an observation. Anyway... Trust Cetranne, Never. Ostracize her if possible, [Yes, please].
#11 Jun 02 2005 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
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OMFG! U GUYS ARE RIDICOULS! ANYWAY, THIS YOUR GIRL CETRANNE A.K.A. YODIEKO, AND I'M HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF. THERE IS TWO SIDES TO EVERYSTORY...FIRST OF ALL, I DIDNT KEEP THE MONEY! I TOOK MY SPLIT AND HAVE IT TO HIROKOTZU! HE TOOK THE GIL SWORE ME UP AND DOWN HE AS GONNA SPLIT IT. THE ONLY REASON I GAVE IT TO HIM IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVE I WASNT GONNA KEEP IT FOR MYSELF! U GOTTA BELIEVE ME! ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF SINCE KNOW ONE WILL. AND ME A GILSELLER? CHILD PLEASE! I AINT GOT TIME FOR THAT JUNK, FAKE MONEY FOR REAL MONEY? BOY STOP! ANYWAY, GOTTA GO BALLISTA MATCH, HOLLA!

I'm really sorry, but that's the worst excuse I heard, first off, why did you only give gil to Hirokotzu? Shouldn't you have sent it to everyone who did the BCNM? And why are people outside of that BCNM PT flaming you for, and how did you afford the gil for those ancient magic scrolls?
I'm in the same LS as Kaitlynn and she's a kind person who wouldn't make up this kind of crap, and after reading posts about you, I'd say that you dug your grave this time.

Edited, Fri Jun 3 00:20:02 2005 by Corrderio
#12 Jun 02 2005 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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OMFG! U GUYS ARE RIDICOULS! ANYWAY, THIS YOUR GIRL CETRANNE A.K.A. YODIEKO, AND I'M HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF. THERE IS TWO SIDES TO EVERYSTORY...FIRST OF ALL, I DIDNT KEEP THE MONEY! I TOOK MY SPLIT AND HAVE IT TO HIROKOTZU! HE TOOK THE GIL SWORE ME UP AND DOWN HE AS GONNA SPLIT IT. THE ONLY REASON I GAVE IT TO HIM IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVE I WASNT GONNA KEEP IT FOR MYSELF! U GOTTA BELIEVE ME! ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF SINCE KNOW ONE WILL. AND ME A GILSELLER? CHILD PLEASE! I AINT GOT TIME FOR THAT JUNK, FAKE MONEY FOR REAL MONEY? BOY STOP! ANYWAY, GOTTA GO BALLISTA MATCH, HOLLA!



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The fact that you may have split the gil this time, doesnt excuse all the other bcnm's you've scammed.

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U GOTTA BELIEVE ME


This comming from the person who came here as a sock puppet asking about how she was seen, and then when people started to joke on the thread started cussing at them, and when i said you actually WERE cetranne, u said i begged you for gil(except you sent me the /tell {Gil} {Can i have it?}) and then you said on here, that i MPK'd you with my lvl 7 bst.

And try to pay attention next time you go to english class please, when things look like that they become long, and hard to read.
#13 Jun 02 2005 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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The funny thing is at first i believed her story for about 5 minutes, and then I realized what she was doing.... The night before when i was in bcnm with her... we talked about how annoying Hiro was and that i couldnt stand him, she had her scapegoat, the reason he worked so well was because "he demanded to have some gil before he would do the bcnm with her again" so she "gave it all to him" this when she would not trust anyone but herself with an item to sell and if you notice she undercut the items so they would sell fast not so as to have everyones interests at heart. The fact that she told me I was an idiot for believe she would split the gil and then invited me again to do BCNM, after saying she had all her equip to lvl 65... I mean come on she goes from no warp II to all equip up to lvl 65... thats bs... anyway I know its probably do i believe her or Armondo... well you dont have to ask me... ask anyone i've never scammed anyone in at least one hundred bcnms... so ask them.
#14 Jun 02 2005 at 11:44 PM Rating: Good
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Had a friend look at AH, she's been busy getting BLM spells
Flare: Few days ago
Tornado: Yesterday
Quake: Yesterday
Flood: Few days ago

Mind explaining where you got the gil for these at?
#15 Jun 02 2005 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
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She also bragged to me that she had all the HQ staves i havent checked AH yet but if anyone does please let me know or post here.
#16 Jun 03 2005 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
I just happened to read what Cetranne said. I can tell u for a fact she's a lying POS. She flat our admitted to me that she kept it for herself. She even said to me "Did you honestly think I was going to split 4 mil" and the story about Kiro stealing it is BS. She was tellin me when I asked her where the gil was she said kaitlynn was begging her for it so she gave it to her. So Cetranne why don't you grow the **** up and act ur age. Hell even smitz has the guts to admit he stole that kraken club.
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Edit: Cet u might as well face it your rep and your word don't mean crap anymore. No one will ever trust you again. I'd honestly think about a server change if I was you.

Edited, Fri Jun 3 02:48:02 2005 by darkdj
#17 Jun 03 2005 at 1:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with Spiridon... she has no problems admitting to people who she stole from, but she has a problem with us spreading the word and "destroying" her reputation when in fact she did this to herself... at least smitz was smart enough to finish all the Genkai before doing anything this drastic, sure he has no end game, but if we're lucky Cetranne wont pass lvl 50.
#18 Jun 03 2005 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
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Yet again she's lying, she hasn't bought any HQ staves unless she got them out of a bazarr
#19 Jun 03 2005 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Let's see.... here's what I've gathered so far.... All in PST time:



5/31/2005 9:41:34 AM Bought Warp II -250,000 From: Crom
* Must have been from previous night's BCNM run. *

5/31/2005 7:43:32 PM Sold Erase 600,000 To: Niho

5/31/2005 7:43:51 PM Sold Utsusemi: Ni 890,000 To: Niho

5/31/2005 7:54:30 PM Bought Thunder II -34,000 From: Yusasa

5/31/2005 7:55:00 PM Bought Stonega II -200,000 From: Fruity

5/31/2005 7:55:30 PM Bought Flare -250,000 From: Hironeko

5/31/2005 7:55:43 PM Bought Flood -200,000 From: Pezz

5/31/2005 8:30:39 PM Sold Utsusemi: Ni 850,000 To: Harmon

5/31/2005 9:16:43 PM Sold Balance Buckler 4,000 To: Kiemu

6/1/2005 10:03:52 AM Sold Erase 550,000 To: Edem

6/1/2005 10:??:?? AM? Bought Mage's Robe -99,000 From: Chinami

6/1/2005 10:10:34 AM Bought Elegant Shield -18,000 From: Rasse

6/1/2005 10:26:25 AM Bought Aeroga II -25,000 From: Anko

6/1/2005 10:26:46 AM Bought Waterga II -60,000 From: Mitupika

6/1/2005 10:27:01 AM Bought Tornado -350,000 From: Potbelly

6/1/2005 10:28:01 AM Bought Quake -340,000 From: Charu

6/2/2005 11:55:59 AM Bought Custom Pants -180,000 From: Sleepingmother

Total amount Sold 2,894,000
Total amount Bought -1,688,000
Amount Unaccounted for 1,206,000

* This amount sold/bought in above calculation does NOT include the Warp II Scroll she had bought in the AM of 5/31/2005.


So please, Cetranne, if I have left anything out... Let me know!

Oh.... and by the way....

I have screen shots of all the above transactions from the Auction House in Jeuno.

I will be looking into posting them up on a website VERY SOON!
#20 Jun 03 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
You super-geeks are amazing...you bust your *** trying to scam you. You guys are just like america: YOU DEMAND SO MUCH! I didnt steal the f***** money. And everyone who has NOTHING to with it f*** o** allright? Anyone, ppl who are tracing me buying stuff you really dont have much to do. I wish you'd all just burn in hell....really. Anyway, i'm going to level my BLM...

God, i'm so famous ppl posting about me and chasing me around FFXI....god, i'm flattered.
#21 Jun 03 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I can not account for the time that her first Utsusemi: Ni scroll sold for, but I can tell you that she picked up an Erase, Ni, and Phalanx on the 30th of May (during a BCNM group with my Bard), where the Phalanx and Ni sold relatively quickly for 150k and 900k respectively. This accounts for 1.05 million of the 1.2 missing gil. I can however assure you that these were sold prior to when she bought Warp II, as that is the first item I checked, because I distinctly remember her saying before the BCNM run on the 30th, that she did not have Warp II (as I was asking if I would have a D2 available for me at the end) and that was her reasoning for going on this run, so that she could afford the spell. Also note that she not only cost those in her parties gil, but also many others, as she slashed the cost of Erase by almost 200k and the cost of Ni by 150k, while these may not be direct hits on others, they still show her ruthlessness in getting these items sold and out of the AH system as quickly as possible.
#22 Jun 03 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't people realize that this ruins their reputation on the server. Cetranne will have problems with endgame stuff, and I know I will have nothing to do with her.

O, and BTW America likes to seek Justice.....I hope you'll be seeing some of that soon =)

/blist add Cetranne, Smitz, all thieves, etc
#23 Jun 03 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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You super-geeks are amazing...you bust your *** trying to scam you. You guys are just like america: YOU DEMAND SO MUCH! I didnt steal the f***** money. And everyone who has NOTHING to with it f*** o** allright? Anyone, ppl who are tracing me buying stuff you really dont have much to do. I wish you'd all just burn in hell....really. Anyway, i'm going to level my BLM...

God, i'm so famous ppl posting about me and chasing me around FFXI....god, i'm flattered.



Super geeks? i highly doubt i'm a super geek seeing as i'm failing all but one class right now, but go ahead and say random **** about us. But do remember....We remember.

If we can help it, you WILL NOT get any help with your genkai items, any of them.

If we can help it, you WILL NOT get help with any af.

If we can help it we'll even try to make sure you dont get a party anymore.

The people on these boards hold more power then you think, they can be great influences, helpers, and mentors.

Or they can go the opposite way and try to make your life as hard as possible.

One thing i very much would like to post about in my quote is:

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You guys are just like america: YOU DEMAND SO MUCH!


I'm not american, i'm north of them all.

But, should we compare you, You're like Iraq under Saddam Housain.

-You cheat.
-You lie.
-You're an utter discrace to the people you represent(this case being blms)
-And, you refuse after every1 checking that theres still no evidence to go on and you still dont know what they're talking about.

-Oh, and you cursed america too.

#24 Jun 03 2005 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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#25 Jun 03 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
Just to let you know Cetranne. I'm not mad at you anymore about the gil not in the slightest. Because someone made a very good statement to me. They said unlike you I will still be able to make millions off BCNM. But you will never make anything off them again. So you can go ahead and keep that gil do with it what you will. But later in the game when you are scrounging for gil to buy a million gil item I will still be able to go do the things that can make you alot of gil.
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Edited, Fri Jun 3 15:39:30 2005 by darkdj
#26 Jun 03 2005 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
I just wanted to ask the members that went on the BCNM runs with her if any of them called a GM. I would really like to hear what they would say.
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