Horrible Dark Beware! DinngleberryFollow

As a friendly warning, Dinngleberry, is known for "Sexual Harrasment" and MPK'ing or Multi-Player-Killing Parties.

The Story is this. We reported him to a GM. Took me forever but finally was able to speak to a Senior GM. Always ask to speak to a Senior GM, and follow up on your complaints.

The party consisted of RDM, RDM, PLD, THF, RNG, and the crappy Drk.

Thf's partner is obviously the DRK. Drk Refused at one point to SATA.

No offense to decently Equipped drks, and you can rate me down, but those drks out there need better gear!, I am not talking about some Gear like 500k Either. Wouldn't hurt for them to hit sometimes. MY Rng Equipment at 50 is over 900k. All together, including things I switch in and what not. Anyways, So he died. His fault. Not even the THF that time. he does, Berserk, Last Resort, Soul Eater. Lovely eh? And Expects not to get hate. Well the bats Do, their TP skill, "Jet Stream" He died. Next time, we ask him to stand behind the mob, tank dies, he dies I 2H.

Then he sexually harassmed me.

Besides the fact he doesn't know how to set up for a SATA, he died this time, because he did the same thing again? Is it teh PLDs fault? Nope. I don't blame the pld. Anyways so we booted him and got Arconis. I speak very highly of Arconis. A very good War. If you have a choice choose him. He knows what he's doing.

He couldn't get a d-2 So he goes grabs a fallen mage, and dies.... right there infront of us. lol. Of course we can't fight a fallen mage so we all soon die. Except the thf. LOL Eklypse Survived heh.

Please be warry. He's a horrible Drk, especially a Taru Drk. if you choose him in your PT despite what I have said. Then your asking for low Exp, and also horrible actions.

Sincerly,
Marlyne

Cerberus. A friendly reminder.

erm... with a name like that, I'd be staying away anyways. I remember once I ran across "Jerk". As I'm standing there watching him die... I think: "Should I cure this guy? or is he really a Jerk?" Well, out of natural instincts, I did the right thing and saved his life. However, the guy is not much of a Jerk at all. However, this **** indeed does sound like a Dinngleberry.

/em stays away.

/em goes off on a tangent or two.

Considering how many guys play female characters in this game (some for the sole purpose of getting "attention"), it makes me wonder just what's "harrasment" and what isn't.

Case in point: I know several guys that play as females for this very reason (at least 1 admitted to being gay), and they've developed their entire character on this. To them, if it was discovered that they weren't really girls, it'd "blow their credibility." And at least one of them "flirts" in such a way as to make a nun blush. So, what's harrasment, and what isn't?

More food for thought: why would you make these kinds of comments when there's a good chance you're making them to someone of the exact same sex as you? And if you knew they were, would you still continue to do so? If you must do this, isn't it enough to restain yourself to people you really know?

Finally, if you had a younger brother or sister playing this game (say, around 10 or so), would you want THEM to be on the receiving end of these kind of comments? I highly doubt it (if you do, you need help). If you want that kind of game, go play Leisure Suit Larry or something equally pathetic to get your jollies.

lol, now that you mention it, i do know a couple of guy friends who play the mithra for just that reason. as another fellow observer put it, if the mithra is all lady-like, 90% chance it's a lady at the helm. if the mithra is flirty, however, 90% chance it's a male at the helm.

jokes aside, this IS a good observation LHW. ;)

I was the other RDM in that Party. I would have to say that dingleberry would go "afk" without letting us know fairly frequently, then about 5 times in he tells us that he was getting frequent phone calls... shouldn't he then not go xp PT'ing then? all he was doing was hurting both us, and himself. as for the SATA thing. well, i don't know. But what he said via emote was exactly as stated in the above posts. His attitude was RUDE and obnoxious. Do your job man, don't whine when you think someone else isn't doing theirs. because the more you whine, the less you spend actually doing your job.

i'm sorry if i've offended you marleen. because it feels by this reply that it's more an attempt to prove a point than it is to qualify what i stated.

i believe i may have messed up on my delivery, so i'll try again, this time in a neutral way:

1) equipment is, as you've stated, his business. it isn't anyone else's business to dictate what equipment to buy. true, there are some standard bias indicative of an excellent job, but that does not mean that EVERYONE must conform to them.

2) job specifically, you've invited a DRK that is supposed to deal damage, by the means that seemed to cause the most aggro. i do not think that as a fellow group member, knowing the limited capability of this member, to impose a SATA onto an ill-equipped DRK where it would draw him unnecessary hate, is a reponsible move. you want damage dealt? why not just ask for a simple SA + Viper Bite like all the other thieves i've known? no additional hate imposed on an already hateful job (pardon the pun), and substantial damage every 1 min. when he finally deals the damage and dies for it, you'd rather blemish his name in an online forum than accept that he finally did his job. laughing that he timed it wrong cos the PLD 'doesn't have voke' and comparing his survivability to that of your well-equipped RNG is perfectly irresponsible as any member.

3) from what i read, he did not 'get killed on his own'. rather, he 'got killed' doing what he is supposed to do. i call that falling in the line of duty. stop absolving yourself of the responsibility of keeping him alive. instead of criticizing Dinggle for his uselessness, take action.

4) i reiterate that i do not in any way intend this to defend Dinggle for his sexual harrassment acts, nor his obnoxious behavior. if i were in your shoes, i'd have kicked him and found a replacement ASAP if i felt that his actions were jeopardizing the entire party. you left him in, and by that you should accept that he is another member that you are responsible for. if you're saying that there are no replacements, i'd like to state that the game doesn't require that you move in 6-man parties. i would have moved in a 5-man party and taken on a lower-level mob for easy XP. (i also want to add that calling the GM was a good call. Dinggle went too far with the obsceneties.)

5) (and this is a personal opinion) please desist from venting about some bad player or another bad player in the server forum. why all the hate? just cos he's a bad player now doesn't mean he'll be a bad player forever. or if he bothers you that much, don't party with him anymore. why make it public? imagine if someone in game posted bad things about you in this forum and suddenly all your friends in game avoid you like the plague. would you like that? no. then you'll verbal-bash the ***-hole who 'slandered' you right? now why be the ***-hole first? you've already done the necessary legal action. i don't think SE will let it rest with 5 members of your party lodging complaints. just let it rest.

6) (another personal opinion) from your RNG analogy, i can tell you know a lot more about hate control than some people i've seen in this game. (BLM spammers *grumble* ><) in fact, i appreciate (as a PLD) that you made it easy on the PLD. but just because you know it doesn't mean you're right in expecting others to know it. so they can't play at your level, then just find people who can.

7) my mom (lol, i dunno why i listen to her sometimes... she nags so much...) has always told me (in her own sagely way) that it takes all sorts of people to make this world. a colleague once told me (after a painful meeting with some really demanding clients) that "those typical upstarts who think they know so much make those who actually are good shine so much more."

8) marleen, all this discourse aside, i hope to party with you some day. just try not to get my poor PLD killed anymore, k? it's almost about to delevel. /cry

lol ok. i feel the warning is a little too much, almost like a spiteful attempt at punishing him. but after all this discourse, i take it that the dmg is done to his reputation anyway. i guess the warning is more for the non-veteren players, or the players who are too nice. i kick if i see that a player is never going to fit in, so i don't have that worry. probably a difference in playing style.

btw, i've heard enough about dinggle in game, so i know all that you're talking about. and yes, i know about his irresponsible, and even illegal, actions that have caused his ill-reputation. but all-in-all, i don't believe in telling people he is a bad player to justify why i warn people against him. my reason would be something like this:

"dinggle did not perform well as a drk in our party, and after several sexually dubious emotes, and a death later, we had him reported to the GM. not only did he leave unpleasantly, he started to train fallen evacuees to us in garlaige citadel while the post-dinggle party was engaged with a siege bat/wingrat.

i do not think it wise for anyone to party with him, but if you do, please be forewarned that he has an odious reputation for being afk without prior notification, as well as going d/c due to bad connections."

yes, he went d/c on me once or twice, but as a rdm then, he was quite competent. i hope this warning to other players is more appropriate. less job/player-bashing, and still ensures people understand.

i'd appreciate if you don't kill my pld. >< the poor job has been hit by one mob too many.

hmmm i think your missing some logic??? I dont see very many blms spamming nukes. I dont expect to live after hate pulled on a benediction and drks shouldn't plan to live after Beserk, Last Resort, Soul Eater?? I would feel sorry for tanks and healers that have to put up with people that only wanna do "UBER" damage and that could care less of maintaining a healthy hate barrier..


/vomit
are u tryin to talk down to this person or what?

... i think i've been misquoted. in Marleen's PT, it feels like they wanted the drk FOR the damage. otherwise, they won't be complaining about him missing half the time, nor about his inefficient gear. and A way--not the only one, but a tried and tested means--to deal that damage (which, btw, with the efficient PLD shouldn't have been a problem, it was purely unlucky that he got the jetstream.) IS to use that same combination of berserk, soul eater and last resort.

let's say that it WAS suicide though, cos that really isn't my argument. my argument is that the drk IS in the PT, and he died. uncouth or not, the members should have been more worried about the fact that he died (if they intended to keep him as a member) instead of keeping him AND complaining that it's his own fault.

one reason why japanese parties usually (again not all, but a vast majority that i've been in) go far is cos they believe in the old saying one-for-all-and-all-for-one. they stick with it entirely, and no matter how bad someone is as a player, they make do. they adapt, they rarely complain, and they advise. it becomes productive, even efficient. you don't see another member blaming another member for the deaths, even if everyone knows it IS his fault for a mistimed attack, or some common human mistake. they didn't have to cause crazy player animosity just to be 'blame-free'. this is just a personal observation. so if you don't believe so, or haven't experienced so, i beg your pardon.

on another note, i apologize for the use of 'dearie'. you are right, it is derogatory, and ill-intended. however, i did not mean it in that way, more as a term of affectionate familiarity or endearment. i'm sorry if i offended anyone.