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#1 Sep 15 2004 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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"READ THE 1ST PARAGRAPH THOROUGLY BEFORE PROCEEDING TO THE REST OF THE POST".


Please don't take this, the wrong way, this post is not intended to tell you how to play the game, is more towards an opinion of what is expected of Warriors in a party and what subjobs are best, depending on situation (Tanking or Damage Dealing), Weapons that work best and why, since I've been getting into some parties that make me want to leave on the spot.

-Warriors best subs are :

Tanks lvl 1-30 :

a)Mnk No question about it, if you are tanking, nice increase in hp and boost ability, definitely a plus.

b) Paladin, there's a significant gap in hp compared to subbing Mnk, and the Mp you get is not worth it.

c) Nin, could use it as both Tank or DD sub.
for Utsusemi, but personally not my style. (it might become quite expensive)

d) Sam, very nice addition indeed, but is mostly good for later lvls as per skills and job abilities.

Damage Dealing lvl 1-30

I'm not gonna post much on this since usually we are not invited to parties for DD, but to tank, but there are a few considerations as to what you might use. take into account that the order in which they are posted was influenced on how they came to mind, the choice is yours.

a) Thf, very good damage stats.

b) Drk, nice dmg input as well.

c) Nin, could use it as both Tank or DD sub.

d) Sam, same as Nin above.

e) Rng, good for dmg, but is specially sub for farming.

Now for some of the advanced jobs usually most players at lvl 30 are getting their advanced job quests or are lvlng them and there come the issue of what you will do with your warrior.

Never to sub these jobs:

a) Whm, if you asked me why, I'll gladly answer if you are new to the game or you are not a warrior, or either you are a Ghetto Paladin.

b) Rdm, I can't understand that choice.

c) Blm, .....................does Drk mean anything to you.

d) Brd, I still haven't seen this combo, and I hope not to see it.

e) Smn, same reasons as above.

f) Bst, I don't have anything to add to this class. this is usually a solo class.

Leave these subs for when you feel like soloing or farming, PLEASE DON'T BRING THEM TO YOUR PARTY.

Also very important, is to have whichever job you decided to sub lvlvd equitatively to your main (1/2 of your main), it will increases your change to get into parties.

-Warrior Weapons

There is a vast array of weapons to choose to go along with the warrior class ( you named it chances are that a warr might equip it, with the exception of Katanas, Great Katanas, Shuriken etc).

But where a warrior truly exceeds is in the use of Great Axe followed by an Axe/Shield combo, anything else lower our perfomance drastically; it's ok to lvl as many weapons as there might be might be available in-game, but that's as far as it goes, do not make a sword/shield combo your main, (that's for Paladins or a Great Sword for that matter "JUST CAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT IT LOOKS COOL", I used to think like that by I saw the error of my way so I changed).

I'm not even gonna address the use of scythe, if you really wanna help your party, go ahead and get yourself an Axe/shield combo or a Great Axe as your main way of dealing Damage, the rest is consequential.

But, just like I stated in the beggining, this is just my opinion of what a warrior should be and be able to to with what is given to us.

Peace to everyone that appreciate the fact that I took the time to do this post based on information collected while playing the game and advice from the Warrior Forum here, and a little piece of advice to those that are gonna flame me : either do something better than I did or hold your opinions until you do so.

Here is one of my profiles, currently lvlng Paladin

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?51146

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?19489 WARRIOR PROFILE

I also carry around all the time a Huge Moth Axe (GA), Tiger Stole and Swordbelt plus 2 Vit Rings.


Edited, Wed Sep 15 16:34:46 2004 by RVASQ
#2 Sep 15 2004 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
Let ppl do what they want if u dont like there combo dont invite them or leave the pt. you really didnt need to make a thread about this u know?
#3 Sep 15 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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If some people will take the time to read, analize and formulate opinions, this will be a better world.

Read the 1st paragraph, after you read it then analyze it and when you done with that, then express you opinion.

#4 Sep 15 2004 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
Ill tell u one thing!!

ive used my ghetto warrior/whm combo.

I really know most people frown upon this combo, but i have saved party members many times with the extra 90MP. especially since im not tanking most the time this is not a bad choice.
now i suppose someone is gonna tell me how wrong i am on the next thread, lol /eat a big one!

like the guy said before, let people explore different combos, there are different uses for each pair.

"I feel more comfortable with my ghetto war than using war/mnk"
but that may be just me :)
#5 Sep 15 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Aye thats some good advice. I did some stupid things as a warrior when i played, and when i start again i will have so much more knowledge from guides like these. People should at least stick to them for a while and see how things work out, probably well. Now that i think of it, these forums should be required reading for a lot of people (including me).
#6 Sep 15 2004 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so here's my question...

I have a War and a DRK that I play with.

I want to try to lvl my WHM. Ive lelved it to lvl 8 now... with my DRK as a sub. (Come on.. that club is not a good weapon to use.. plus I get MP with my drk subbed)

Since I dont have the option of lvling through with another mage (because I dont have another mage lvled) whats wrong with lvling with my drk for a while. and no, Im not talking I want to take my WHM high up... I just mean for a few levels here and there as a break from playing.

Should I play around with a whm and a gimped rdm sub, or go all out and sub with one of my higher levels (preferrably DRK so I dont look like a total poe)

Just curious... Im scared to put a flag up with the funky sub, but but then again, Ive seen people PURPOSELY sub war with their WHM. "Oh I know I didnt see that WHM voke"
I just want a backup job with buffs for soloing.






#7 Sep 15 2004 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Sub: MNK, NIN or THF
Not to Sub: Everything else, they will gimp you.

Sub 1-30: MNK
Sub 30+: NIN, MNK, THF

Weapon: Dual Axes, Great Axe, Axe + Shield
Not to Weapon(^^): Everything else

Made the post better and smaller.
#8 Sep 15 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I EDITED TO ADD A LINE TO THE 1ST PARAGRAPH, WELL IT STATES THE FOLLOWING " READ THE 1ST PARAGRAPH THOROUGLY BEFORE PROCEEDING TO THE REST OF THE POST".

and for the lack of brain cells that some posters have displayed so far it reads basically like this :

"Please don't take this, the wrong way, this post is not intended to tell you how to play the game"
#9 Sep 15 2004 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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What would you say is best to start out with, i mean in the early levels? Axe and shield or Great Axe? Or keep them both leveled? I know later on both will be handy for Skillchains but in the meantime. I used to use... sword and shield (Iknow...) it did like nay damage on ITs!
#10 Sep 15 2004 at 3:15 PM Rating: Good
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My question is where does a pld and a under 30 one at that, get off trying to advise a WAR how to do their job?
#11 Sep 15 2004 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, Sabotender, nice of you to drop by, I appreciate your input, but like you probably saw, this post is intended to explain an idea of what is expected from a Warrior pre lvl 30, since those lvls are the formation to what your character will be later on and how not to miss on the basics, for example you are a warr lvl 45 and your Axe skill is 47 along with your Great Axe skill at 23.

Again, this post is not intended to tell you how to play, and what to sub or not to sub, or what wepaons to use; is just to fill in the basics, since they will be needed at higher lvls.

And you don't wanna be booted from a party, because they invited you to party to tank, and when you arrived they find out that you're carrying a Sword/Shield Combo and your sub is a Rdm, Blm or Whm besides being underleveled.

And to you Mclean, read the 1st paragraph.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 16:25:35 2004 by RVASQ
#12 Sep 15 2004 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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The thing is you have no basis to back up what you are saying. You are a pld, why would someone want to take your advice?

And I read your entire post.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 16:28:36 2004 by Macky
#13 Sep 15 2004 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Mclean, I added my warrior profile, will that give me any basis now?
#14 Sep 15 2004 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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There is one thing I'd like to say to Warriors.

Please, always keep a ranged weapon on you, to use for pulling. Pretty please.

I was in a PT with a WAR before the update that refused to bring a ranged weapon because he wanted to use his Bomb Core, and the only other melee in the party was a DRG (before their ranged weapons) and a PLD.

Please, if you can, support your party more than being concerned about the extra few points of STR from a Bomb Core.
#15 Sep 15 2004 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Jerhyn, an unexcusable oversight on my part, thank you for pointing that out, Kudos to you.
#16 Sep 15 2004 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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As a BLM I like it if the WAR has a choice of weapon handy so we can have some decent skillchains (especially with two WARs, not many good SCs with axe and great axe together).

#17 Sep 15 2004 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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DRK as a sub job is utterly pointless. Drk should never be subbed,
because the benefits of DD'ing are greater as a DRK main. In my opinion the best sub to quickly solo a warrior from 1-20 is WAR/RNG
, you get a awesome boost to agi and decent str and dex increases.
Plus, u get sharpshot, so just equip a good bow with up to date arrows and u can do massive solo damage. That is, up until 24, then u probably want to go to a true party environment sub choice. Overall, the 2 best sub choices for war are NIN if you taking hits and MNK if you are dishing hits. THF is an excellent choice post 30 only if you use a 2 handed weapon, because of sneak attack and the DEX bonuses of a THF, But if you a warrior who uses 1 handed weaps, stick to MNK sub.

Also, forgot to mention, SAM is an excellent sub choice at later lvs due to the massive Tp gains and archery skills. Good for an advanced party scheme.

Edited, Wed Sep 15 21:20:55 2004 by Cassiatia

Edited, Wed Sep 15 21:23:06 2004 by Cassiatia
#18 Sep 16 2004 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Paladin and Dark Knight should NEVER be subbed with Warrior, very useless, I went as a WAR/PLD, and it sucked

BTW: Shouldn't this be in the Jobs Forum, since I really doubt it is just Cerberus with the WAR/??? stuff
#19 Sep 16 2004 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
Let people play as they want. After a while of getting no party invites, maybe they will figure it out.
It is cool to post SUBJOBS that you woould think that is the best. Some do appreciate and heed the advice.

The forums are for people to get/give information. Share stories and topics that others can relate too.

WHEN HAS THIS ALL CHANGED? IT USE TO NOT BE THIS WAY.

Where is the respect?
#20 Sep 16 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
Let people play as they want. After a while of getting no party invites, maybe they will figure it out.
It is cool to post SUBJOBS that you woould think that is the best. Some do appreciate and heed the advice.

The forums are for people to get/give information. Share stories and topics that others can relate too.

WHEN HAS THIS ALL CHANGED? IT USE TO NOT BE THIS WAY.

Where is the respect?
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