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#1 Sep 09 2004 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello Cerberus ^^

Problem
The topic of discussion today invovles a few members that we all share our gameplay with. Regardless if you know these people or not, please be aware that they are around and that they are most likely botting the hell out of Davoi, Castle Oztroja and Beadeaux. Mainly Davoi. These characters are as follows: Meau, Haierbaby, Samsang, and Multiscan They have other minions as well, but those would be the main ones.

Background Knowledge
These players are playing from Hong Kong, China. Our LS had acquired this knowledge because one of the people listed above, Haierbaby, was invited to join our LS just for fun in the beginning. He spoke Chinese and very few english words. Luckily our LS has many Chinese-speaking members. We find out that Haierbaby is played by mutliple players IRL. 1 of the players leveled up and did the experiece point PT's...where another player would go out seeking NM's,farm, etc. Lately, our LS has yet to hear 1 word from Haierbaby.

Thoughts
This is the part that bugs me the most. Meau, Haierbaby, Multiscan, and Samsang are some of the worst players in the game in terms of EXP PT's. Somehow they made it to L60 with no AF whatsoever and Rank1/2. I believe they are still L60 with /anon on all the time camping everywhere you can think of. A lot of times I'll end up in Davoi just farming the Orcs for items or camping the NM's there. At least 1 out of those players will be there farming/camping the NM's. When I watch them closely, they almost seem to be on a routine able to time everything just right, and able to out voke me everytime. They are even quick to pick out a mob out of a crowd. As many of you know, the Archer Knife's drop is from a placeholder NM. I left all mobs alone in the area except for the placeholder to see if he could pick out the mob fast. As soon as the NM spawned, "Haierbaby provokes Hawkeye Bgnadad (sp?)" WTF?! Bah anyway this rant is going on toolong...I'm just tired of seeing this group go by daily camping every NM known to man, and never losing to anyone. I have reason to believe that they work for IGE's central division in HK and run bots to camp the NM's.

Anyways, lol.... If you see them give them a nasty face and tell em Chinqlinq sent ya ^^ Happy Camping
#2 Sep 09 2004 at 1:03 AM Rating: Decent
lol, Haierbaby is quite the individual. I PT'd with him a few times back in the 30's. He couldn't understand anything. lol
#3 Sep 09 2004 at 1:22 AM Rating: Good
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Ughh.... don't get me started on these 4 idiots after the run ins I've had witht them
#4 Sep 09 2004 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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LoL Chinq. I had a run-in with Samsang last night in Davoi. :-/ He tried to train 5 or 6 Orc Gladiators and some others to us while we tried to get my stupid Jujitsu Gi (one day I'll have that stupid gi). It was funny watching him/her trying to warp out with 10 mobs and getting interrupted every time. I told him/her that it was a nice try anyways and went about my camping. I still haven't seen that stupid Poisonhand Gnadgad. :-/

Side Note: Please explain why me and my friend were dumb enough to help that mithra kill a gladiator? /slap LeetFade
#5 Sep 09 2004 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
Chinq!!!

i need a new linkpearl
#6 Sep 09 2004 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
Chinqlinq i knew those bastards lol, sobs Tried to steal my **** i was like hell nah Trained them all and got them all dlvled Mwuhahahaha!(two weeks ago) Mwuhahahahahahhhahahaha!
                                                             i win yay! Zerokool~Peace Out~
#7 Sep 10 2004 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
There was this chinese girl (I forgot the name), who had gotten to level 30 with NO SUB. Can you imagine that?
Everyone was debatting in Kazham some months ago about this matter.
A theif lvl 30/nothing.
#8 Sep 10 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I have reason to believe these people are bots.

Go on the kazham - jeuno airship, and you'll see people that are /anon and names that end in voy.

Everytime I go on that airship, they are there. I tried talking to them, but no response ;\
#9 Sep 10 2004 at 11:49 PM Rating: Decent
there are alot of people, who are either bots or forigners being paid to play the game. there are the "lucky" bots(luckygirl, luckyboy, ect) in gusgen, mineing seemingly 24 hours a day. iv heard there are "star" bots/people who farm or camp NM, 24/7.
and iv had my own run-ins with rude chinese people farming. i was killing liz in valkrum for skins, linking the 3 to 5 that spawn together to auto target then for 1 hit kill WS. this guy named darkwar cam and started trying to make huge trains, which didnt work so well as i was running around killing liz pretty fast. so i just leave him be, thn he runs up to me in the tunnel, while im fighting 5 lizards. checks me, seeing im clearly over lv37, and areoga's my liz. i killed th one i was fighting, and got 2 of the remaining 4 before he did.
i told him he shouldnt have done that, and then he makes another 20-25 liz train, which i killed more then half of. then he /tell me F my mother, several times in chinese before he left as he couldnt outfarm me.

these people are everywhere, on every server. and weather they are bots, or just multiple people being paid to play on the same character, they are not players playing the game. sadly, i think paying forgieners to play is the new "solution" to SE booting the gil sellers bots.
#10 Sep 11 2004 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
Sarsari, the chinese girl was named Cngirl, and it wasnt Thief she leveled to 30 with no sub, but warrior. I had the misfortune of be invited by her when I was was leveling my WHM in jungle. Except at that point, she had the deceny of having unlocked her sub job quest. Woo hoo a level 30/1 War/Thf - so much fun.

The Lucky people (Luckboy, Luckgirl, who I hate the most of the four, Luckstar and Luckmoon) seemed to be controlled by one person and three of them were partying in Gustav Tunnel with my friend and almost got him killed 3 times before he disbanded because of lack of responses from his questions, lack of teamwork (you can tell when someone is playing 3 characters at once when the warrior isnt voking, the whm is just spamming Cure 2's on a completely healed person, etc.) and just slow exp gain. They now flood Bastok's already flooded /shout channels with tells about Luckboy's zinc ore for sale, or Luckgirl's (Level 40 whm at this point) "Teleport-Dem? Teleport-Holla? Do you need it? Call me!". She can't even be bothered to get Teleport-Mea (let alone Teleport-Altepa and Teleport-Yhoat) , yet she has a nice shiny Holy Breastplate on as she's doing Tele-taxi almost 24/7.

There is also a Hero line of mostly Tarutaru characters (Heromage, Herothief, etc.) who are either run by the same person or are bot-played. Just watching them level in dunes and their methods of moving through there was enough to show they were being botted. They also appeared to have a farming WHM that would raise them if any of them died, then resume farming.

Meau I also saw in Korroloka tunnel once when I was camping the Morion Worm. She was moving erratically and did a bad job of reacting to the Morion Worm's death and spawn locations.

I am almost certain most of these characters are being leveled intensely to sell to other people - at which point they will have built a terrible reputation, no one will want to party with them. I know I won't want to get a party invite from many of these people after my run-in's with them. :-/
#11 Sep 11 2004 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a theory behind the "underleveled SJ's, underanked, and under dressed" Chinese players. Many of them who play, play the English edition. I've found that many of them can't read much English either lol. If you think about it, how do they get through the game without being able to clearly read the quests and missions? I recently met a player, Chinesebaby, whom I had a decent English conversation with, since I can't speak Chinese very well. She/he absolutely loves he game, doesn't play for money for the most part, and isn't being paid to play. Although he/she is having a hard time playing the game because he/she doesn't know what's going on for the most part. So that's just one of my theories, but forsure CN, Luck, Haierbaby's Crew, and Cool are definitely the one's being paid to farm. I don't have much other info on anything else though. I want to get them banned from our server, please help me with any clue's/additions any of you may knotice! Thank you ^^ see you in game~
#12 Sep 11 2004 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
I think there is also a "Game" group, "Gamegirl" "Gameboy" ect... i saw Gamegirl endlessly walking in to a wall in King's Tomb one day for like 25 min?!?! I could be mistaken, but you never know.
#13 Sep 11 2004 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
what about those high lvl's in that group called coolmonk, coolgirl, coolmage etc., are they bots?
#14 Sep 11 2004 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Those Luck ppl are hated in my LS. They've taken over the mines, and they steal the mining points.... I think I've partied with some of the others that were mentioned. At least it explains their terrible playing!

As for running into a wall for 25mins.... I've been guilty of that (fallen asleep while running across various places). ~.~
#15 Sep 11 2004 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Luckboy, Luckgirl, Luckmoon, and Luckstar, are Chinese gil sellers, imo.
#16 Sep 11 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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While were on topic with chinese, putting gil sellers aside. Does it seem to most of you, that chinese players are more into talking to use rather then jp's are? I had one try and talk to me a few days ago, broken english mind you, but she/he attempted to strike a conversation.. dont know if you all noticed this or not.
#17 Sep 11 2004 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
Luckgirl used to be in my linkshell when I first joined. Soon after most of use dropped that one and made a new one. What I remember of Luckgirl was that she never said anything except when she had died and wanted one of us to come raise her (which was at least twice each night).

I truly hate luckboy and luckgirl solely because they undercut AH prices on ores and when everone else sells for that price they undercut again. I gave up on mining because of them and evertime I see them I give them a {/slap} and I suggest you do too.
#18 Sep 11 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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There are 2 botters that name ends with -girl, Luckgirl and Lovegirl, I seen them farm in passhow before, the usual fasion of a DRG gil seller - Raptor Armor, level 50 Lance (I think), and the annoying as heck Flee they use when they see you go after a mob
#19 Sep 11 2004 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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These lucks are run by more then one person, this I do know. I have had conversations with luckstar.(well broke convos. but whatever). He told me that he is paid to farm the mine and that is why they never seem to have mining equipment. I tried to talk to him the next day and he claims that he doesn't know who I am.

Also a few others I know that are either bots or gil farmers:

bena
benb

Also a few that I know of that steal mining spots but don't have any proof that they are bots or gil farmers

mrcool
theend

I have been mining that place for a few weeks now. And i know a GM has been called on luckstar but nothing has happenned, though I do not know why the GM was called.
#20 Sep 11 2004 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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HIHI Chinq!!

Okay Hero clan, Herolionking, heroelder, you get the picture. Also hotder is always with hero elder. all rank1 the shottiest gear and all around lvl 50'sh. The mainly camp emporor, log in gelsba, and mine in the grotto. Deffinatly chinese gil sellers. Which all the "regular" grotto miners have built up an extensive amount of information on them

The luck clan as they are now called all mine in Gusgen.. go figure.

Dunno about the others that you named but knowing you I "totally" believe you.

I really think SE should look more into the bottinga nd gil selling. It's getting way out of hand on our server and the GM's just shrug us off. I knwo teh hero clan did get a 48 hour suspension but comon it's so easy to see they are gil sellers.

It is totally annoying and the GM's just disregarding us makes it even worse.

ah well.. see ya around chinq
#21 Sep 12 2004 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
OOF.. benB.. Mr Cool. .I know that gang well.. they're always farming Crawlers nest, for a while we use to call them the seseme street gang. Lol.. I remember, one time their whm died, and they came to our party begging for a raise. But it was strange, they were talking in this alien language, but we knew they needed help cause they would SOS every now and then. We basically said no, I think they ended up paying 5K to a willing whm...

As for Luckgirl.. someone just recently gave her a pearl from my LS.. She's from Hong Kong, don't really know her that well though. I just remember seeing her and Luckboy dead once in Qufim, and figured, damn, these guys aren't that 'lucky'.
#22 Sep 13 2004 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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This makes me completely sick to my stomach... I've known about the theory for quite sometime... but the fact that it is going this far is ridiculous.

SE does not "need" to do something about this... they HAVE to do something about this before it goes any further.

Just to give you all a little idea about how much SE is making a month on this game... The numbers are estimated since i don't know exactly how many people are on each server.

@12.95/month x 20k users(per server) x 30 servers = 7.77 million

A MONTH PEOPLE!!!!

they can afford to kick 10-100 people for making the game less enjoyable for the rest of us!
#23 Sep 14 2004 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I've actually ran into Samsang in Zi'Tah camping goobbues for tree cuttings. I farmed there while he was there and never had any problems. He even told me when there were 2 near him and asked me to come kill it. I know that Multiscan is a straight up ****, tho. I used Sneak Attack and right before I hit the goobbue he Chi Blasted it.(><) Haierbaby usually farms Archer's Knives from what I've seen. Never seen Meau. That's my 2 cents. Later~
#24 Sep 14 2004 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I've actually ran into Samsang in Zi'Tah camping goobbues for tree cuttings. I farmed there while he was there and never had any problems. He even told me when there were 2 near him and asked me to come kill it. I know that Multiscan is a straight up ****, tho. I used Sneak Attack and right before I hit the goobbue he Chi Blasted it.(><) Haierbaby usually farms Archer's Knives from what I've seen. Never seen Meau. That's my 2 cents. Later~
#25 Sep 14 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
I saw what I believe to be a fishing bot almost killed by a caught monster last night!

I was in gustaburg levelling my NIN, and had worked my way to the cliff. I saw a taru catch a monster, and..;. not do anything. I walked closer to see what was going on, and the person that was fishing beside said Taru said in broken english "NO attack" and some slight variations. I gave him a /nod to show that I understood.

The taru ended casting about 4 more times, being attacked the entire time, getting down to about 1/4 life before it even started fighting back, and only then for pitiful 1-2 damage per hit. I ended up walking away before seeing the conclusion, but it seems that SE has taken a step against fish bots at least by having the monsters caught aggro on the person tha caught them.

/hurray !
#26 Sep 14 2004 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I have my own lil' bot story. I spent 17hrs in Castle Oztroja trying to get trying to get the Kote's for a ls member. At several times there were no less then 3 ls members there to help. But... there were also a party of 6 JP/CN players hunting also. Now, they were fighting the NM on both sides of the castle. We finally got really fed up after about 12 hours and just sat there pounding on your "provoke" key. All to no avail. When the mob spawned, it would already be claimed. I was very pissed. I mean what the hell.. you cant even get items that you need unless you buy it from these gil sellers at the AH. It was the only time I have concidered quiting the game.

Some of our ls members have been discussing this, as it happens with a lot of NM's, and I would like to get your opinions.

What if this NEEDED items, like the armor and spells were made "rare ex" drops. Then the gil sellers could only drop them... Additionally, if it is a needed item.. the person that needs it would be high enough level to get it (usally with help) and be able to advance their job without having to farm the gil to buy the item.. or developing a bot themselves to out do the sellers.

Let me know what you think.
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