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#1 Sep 22 2004 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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today i ran into the jerry bots. i was farming happily and 2 of them started coming into may area. now of course i was pissed off. nothing i could really do. i did go ahead and let a GM know...nothing happened though.

whats really pissing me off is with names like
jerryh
jerrym
jerrys
jerryt
jerryx
jerryz


and also the apples...
redapplea
redapplebb
redapplecc
redappledd
redappleee


with names like those its obvious what they are. i see them all over the place. and they get in my damn way constantly. its not like fishing bots. those stay off to the side, don't steal your kills, at most they bring down the prices of fishing and such.
but these bots that run around and kill things are getting in the way of people, stealling kills, and definitely keeping the balance of gil between people all screwed up.

why square hasn't address it i don't know, and why they're not more aggresive towards it is upsetting me. its breaks the policies, and its just making it easy for noobs to buy gil of line. which is another rant all together but i'll cut it off here with the damn bots pissing me off.
#2 Sep 22 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
I definitely agree! Hands down! We all hate farming bots!

I've seen people with their names end in the alphabetic order. First I thought they were just a family who created accounts with the same name and group together to exp. I mean, at first that idea was actually cool, but after I saw what they were doing it really drove me crazy. My friend spent $150.00 to buy 1 million gil on Bismarck and he started ranting on how hard get got the money in the game and he wouldn't lend me 5k. Then one of the guy in the Linkshell simply said "Wait, didn't you buy those gil?" O_o;

I mean, what's the fun to it if you don't work your butt off to get what you want. That's the spirit of the MMORPG. I feel so proud when I was able to obtain a 25k equipment on my own. (Even though I know it will only get worse and more expensive) Please, don't kill the true spirit and belief in Final Fantasy. I really don't want to see this game go down the drench because of "Free Farmer Flood".

Just for the record, I am not against online gil farmers, I know it's their job and people tend to get lazy somehow. But I definitely don't approve them, and if we can reduce it as much as possible, the game experience will definitely improve.

Bear with me Comerade! :)

Edited, Wed Sep 22 23:29:00 2004 by Lockheart

Edited, Thu Sep 23 00:39:01 2004 by Lockheart
#3 Sep 22 2004 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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It's not illegal in China. Most of the gilfarmers are Chinese. Thus, SE cannot do anything about it.
#4 Sep 22 2004 at 11:43 PM Rating: Good
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Interesting...so here's my question then. Is there anything they will ever be able to do about it? I mean, can't they have some sort of international rules now that SE has expanded this game to Europe, Japan, and the US? I honestly think SE doesn't give a damn cause we still pay our monthly bill whether the gilfarmers are on or not.

-Zero
#5 Sep 23 2004 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
Plus! More Gil Farmers the better, SE doesn't make money off AH or Taxes in Jeuno. But Gil Farmers pay to play on the server, so why the heck not? What do they have to lose?

Let's say 5 people quit because of this situation, but the next thing you know, 20 more people register and start playing. They don't care, it's a big company, it's a cooperation conspiracy!
#6 Sep 23 2004 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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It stinks because of the competition. It's bad enough that you when you have to compete with legitimate players over the same resources. But when you have to compete with a gil farmer it really sucks. They arn't using that money to get themselves cool new equipment, they are just selling it to people who are to lazy to do the work for themselves.

It really ticks me off when I have my mining points stolen by a gil farmer, they have no consideration or manners as it is not in thier interest to share. They are only interested in the bottom line and so don't care about being nice or anything they just take take take. At least with most other miners they are considerate enough not to steal my points as I do not steal theirs. Plus real players are worried about thier reputation..well if they aren't a asshat they are. However these gil farmers really don't care..they just **** people off all the time..it's ok for them as long as they make thier gil quota for the day.

As far as feeling some form of sympathy for these people who are being forced to play I do have some. But for the Bosses of these people I have none...they cater to the most undesirable traits of players...that being lazyness and impatience.

Edited, Thu Sep 23 05:03:17 2004 by starko
#7 Sep 23 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I am trying to get something going that hopefully will stop these gilfarmers once and for all. We will have a number of teams each day preventing them from getting to the nm by us killing it first. I know it will take a while to organize this but if we do they WILL not be able to stop us. If SE can't do anything about it we will take it in our hands then. Whatever happens will not be on us but on the gilfarmers themselves. It is a crazy idea but it could work.

Edited, Thu Sep 23 11:32:18 2004 by Magvius
#8 Sep 23 2004 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
LOL, notice how conflict arises in the game just like in RL. I will join you in the gil farmer stopping once I am a high enough level to take on a NM.
#9 Sep 23 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
These Jerry freaks get TICKED when someone messes with them.

I see them. and Redmagic all the time in there farming oozes (In Beaudeux.) and such..and a BST /tell's me saying how he saw them everywhere. I said yeah it's a problem and then he got upset, and started to charm oozes pull them away, his friends would kill them. or he'd use ooze vs ooze.

Next thing I see he's in a fight (VS an ooze) and like 3/4 Jerry's just pop up with a huge train of any quadav you can think of. Even the Rank 5 one that drops the shell. all over to him while he was fighting. they trained all that to them with a pet and then released it, and the things just stood there..the jerries ran obviously and it was jus that BST vs X number of quads he got slaughtered easily.
#10 Sep 23 2004 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I could go into detail about the tactics used by these guys in various areas that I have witnessed first hand, but I'm sure it would just be a rehash of the same stuff we've been seeing.

Calling a GM is good, but rarely results in any action taken since these guys are not technically breaking any rules. If they train mobs in on you, then you should call a GM immediately and site a violation of the harassment clause in the User Agreement and demand that action be taken against the guilty party. Screenshots are probably a must and repeated violations will probably have to occur to make any accusations stick. The measure that I took was to go to this (https://secure.playonline.com/supportus/index.html) URL and submit a comment/suggestion expressing my distaste of the gilfarmers and that it would eventually drive people away from the game. One submission will never even get noticed, but if lots of people went and did this, perhaps it would, one day, get some attention.

Beyond that, the only thing to do is get parties or alliances to go camp the same mobs they do and steal them. Since we don't play in shifts like they do (24/7), this is virtually impossible. We can only hope to slow them down this way, it probably won't stop them. If any gil-breaker partys form up, post it somewhere so I can come too. Nothing makes me happier than claiming a mob out from under them (except maybe getting the drop from it).

edit: alla doesn't seem to handle https in the link tag. I'll just stick the url in for copy/paste.



Edited, Thu Sep 23 13:26:29 2004 by Idwa
#11 Sep 23 2004 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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personally i think the smartest thing to do is a money making sense would be to simply have GMs look for gilfarmers and suspend the accounts. that would make these jerk offs buy new copies of the games. which means square gets even more money from them buying an new copy and then they start paying monthly fees again.

the minor advantage we have is we lose them for a day or two everytime square does a scan for them.

still its pissing me off square doesn't address the situation. illegal or not in china, doesn't mean square can't suspend or ban an account that a chinese person owns. when they install it they aggree to the terms that square has for using square's servers.
#12 Sep 24 2004 at 2:59 AM Rating: Decent
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i saw the redapple bots or atleast 3 of them in lower jeuno today (3:30ish AM EST) but anyhow, they were talking to "Zooejlwsa" or atleast doing emotions that you'd see in a conversation. and he was occationally laughing out loud.

now the zoo's are another group of gilfarms...as most know. only reason i'm pointing out what i saw was who ever owns zoo's speaks english, and also i'm willing to assume they could be controlled by the same person.
#13 Sep 24 2004 at 3:15 AM Rating: Decent
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So here I sit at this very moment in the Argus room with Jerrym, Jerrys, and Rexyy (and nobody else). I've been here for 6.5 hours with no spawn, but that isn't the point. It seems that they all use a standard provoke macro (/targetnpc ; /ja "Provoke" <t>), and I figured they just spammed it. Instead, what I saw earlier was a bat spawn, Jerrys provoked it and it proceeded to beat him up. He wasn't attacking it back, but continued to Provoke every 15s on the money. He wasn't at the keyboard. He is level 50ish, so the bat was having a hard time dealing any damage to him but it is slowly taking his HP. I thought to myself, "He is blatantly violating the the 'cheats' clause of the User Agreement". So in hopes of getting one of them banned, I called a GM (I'm such a tattle-tail). Anyway, he responded very quickly and I told him the situation. He gave me the standard "I will look into it immediately--" bit. Jerrys's HP had finally reached about 1/4 (this took a pretty long time) and the GM assured me that he would see about it. Right about then Jerrys came back to his keyboard and took care of the bats. 4.5 hours later, he's still here doing the same thing. Oh well, maybe next time.
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