The Hijacking of a Linkshell: What to do?Follow

(Crossposted to the main page; the more advice the better)

I started my first and only linkshell about a month and a half ago.

I bought it so that my 'set party', about five people in all, would have a convenient and easy way to talk to one another.
Most of us in this game have used linkshells; when you use a single shell for this long, you can get pretty attached to the people on it. I signed on in the morning to check in with my friends, so find out what I'd missed; I shared in the victories and defeats of my friends as we all reached level 30, took our advanced jobs, and leveled those 40+.

This was my in-game family. I'd do anything for them if I could, and we helped one another in the way the high-level, HNM linkshells rarely would. We were all friends, we had all partied together at some point, and it seemed that nothing could possibly ruin that.

And then, something did; or rather, someone did.

Q____ was a member of this LS, one of those I was slightly less fond of early on, but as time went on he proved very helpful to us. He was the highest level person on the LS, at 50.
He went through two in-game breakups while on my linkshell. I was sympathetic and kind in the face of it, and I held his hand through them along with most of the rest of the LS. I devoted time I could have spent farming, leveling or otherwise furthering myself in comforting Q___'s emotional problems.

And one day I hear that he's started his own LS. He rarely pops into mine, but when he does we're welcoming and eager to hear the news. He made the linkshell in celebration of a third in-game relationship; this time the girl agreed to marry him.

And one by one, he gave my LS members pearls. No big deal, I didn't mind, it was his LS and he had the right to give pearls to whomever he chose.
One day he gave a pearl to a member of my LS as I was standing right beside them, and declined to give one to me. I didn't even know he'd given this other member a pearl until after he had left.

But one day I signed on, and apparently he didn't know I was there. Another LS member, M____, was on with me; Q____ doesn't even KNOW this member. He left the linkshell before she joined, and hadn't been around her much.

"Hey M_____," he says over the LS. "Join us."

He had been coming onto my LS, and recruiting members for his own. Members that we were still getting to know left my linkshell to join his, possibly because he touted it as a 'high-level' linkshell that did BCNMs and the like.
Mine on the other hand is kind of the equivalent of an informal bar or club. No rules, just friends chatting with one another. When we did BCNMs it was spur-of-the-moment, sometimes ended in disaster, but we had fun.

It seems like a silly thing. But it has ruined the game for me.
Now, when I sign on, my linkshell is empty. I get tells from my friends, and they'll pop onto the old LS, "Because we don't want to leave you alone."

Somehow this makes me feel worse ><

In addition the only really loyal member of the LS, and a great friend of mine, recently left the game under bad circumstances. I miss him terribly, and if you see this (you know who you are), come on back man. It's not as bad as it seems, trust me, and everyone can make up and move on. Quitting is below you, man.

But in closing, does anyone have a suggestion of how I might get my old LS back together, short of promising things that are kind of silly ("We'll do BCNMS all the time guys, please come back.")?

And as a ps, anyone have a great LS I can join? :(

Not much to do, really.
My old LS has broken up a couple of times, and not long ago it broke up for the last time. I went to my MH and put on every other pearl I had received to see which one I liked the best, I liked the HotukenKnights best, so I stayed, and threw the rest of them away.
Sometimes there's no other option but to move on, if that guy was an ******* to you even after you were there for him, he's not really worth your friendship, anyway, and even if he did invite you, I wouldn't join if I was you.
Good luck.

What??? The KnightsofRonfaure broke up?

I heard a LOT of good things about them...

/comfort

Man (or Miss) I feel sorry for you, it should not have happened. I hope you find a new and better LS.

I'm really sorry about all that happened but I believe you need to see it from the other point of view also. Being as I know your story all too well, I wasn't surprised to see it pop up here. I could pretend that I don't know who this Q character is and who his new girl is but hey that would be a lie because in reality I'm the new girl.

You make everyone out to be horrible people but you need to understand what happened when you couldn't see them talking. Q asked them to join his new LS and didn't promise anything. He simply wanted his friends to come and meet other people out of that LS. Everyone even stated that they would be going back to your linkshell too because you are a great leader. Q in no way was trying to steal or "Hijack" your linkshell. It wasn't like that at all. And the people who left your linkshell are not bad people who just want a LS to help them with BCNMs because in reality we have yet to do a BCNM all we do is sit around and chat and laugh together like you said your old LS did. Q even said he offered you a linkpearl so you could come and check things out. I understand you when you didn't accept but I know your old members tried to make an effort to balance two LS. In the end they have mainly chosen to stay on this new one but no one made them, and no one promised them things if they came over.

I'm sorry about what has happened to your linkshell and I understand your pain. Perhaps I might look like the enemy at the moment but that is not at all what I wanted. I have only met you once but you really are a great person and no one was trying to hurt you when they did this. Having two LSs occurs a lot and thats all that was going to happen with this new LS is people could stop by but their home would be your LS. You also need to understand that making a new LS has nothing to do with me and Q, it was simply something he had wanted to do. And he in no way doesn't appreciate all that your LS did for him and all that you did for him also. In closing, I just hope that you can further understand things after my post. I hope it helps clear things up for you and as I stated I'm sorry for all that happened.

Edited, Mon Sep 13 18:20:52 2004 by Yekan

I understand yekan i 2 also know that we didnt mean to hurt anyones feelings we were just trying to create a linkshell were people could get to meet other people we have never met. We did not mean to close out your linkshell, besides its not yekans fault that it ended out that way.
I find it very admirable sioux that u didnt use Q_____ name...

I left the KoR LS a few weeks before this whole episode happened, and after watching it unfold, I'm sorry that I did. I still counted the Knights of Ronfuar LS members as my friends, and while I had my reasons for going, I never for a moment wanted to see the LS go through anything like this. The problem here is in Q_________'s intentions, which I don't believe were as innocent as Yekan sees them. There's a difference between offering people linkpearls and recruiting them off of another LS.

Its fine for people to have multiple LS's... hell, we all did on KoR (at least I think most of us had other LS's we went on now and again). The thing is that KoR was meant as a haven against just this sort of crap... the dramas and infighting that come along with larger, less personal groups. Like Sioux said, we're all friends, and while we occasionally got new members, there was a core group that made up the LS's heart. The hearts basically been gutted now, and no matter what Q_________'s intentions were, the result is that the KoR LS has suffered. Which is unfortunate. All of the good things people heard about it were true.

I'll go back to KoR, for one. My reasons for leaving are water under the bridge now, as far as I'm concerned.

[edit] I can't believe I'm saying this... >_>

To whom it may concern... maybe I was too quick to judge. If you want to come back to Bismarck, We'll see where it goes from there. You just need to make me a promise and stick to it, alright man?

Edited, Mon Sep 13 20:49:40 2004 by GailC

Now that leads into more drama. First we have

followed by


Sioux, you are really much better off without that kinda drama. The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and someone is misleading/lying somewhere in the works (I'm not suggesting that anyone here is lying, just saying that SOMEONE in the situation isn't telling the complete truth for there to be such different stories.) When a LS comes to the point of he said/she said stuff...it's time to move on. There are some great LS's out there you can try out, and you'll always have your old one that you can rebuild should you decide.

Best of luck to you, and just say NO to drama!

That's what I meant Noxx, someone is doing some misleading behind the scenes. I believe that each of you three is telling the truth as you see it. Sioux was told (by some person not introduced in this thread)he started the LS to celebrate his new relationship, Yekan was told (by him assumedly) he started the LS because it was something he had wanted to do, you were told he started the LS (assumedly by the people who did the asking) because the rest of the people asked him to.

But then, it just doesn't add up. Why would he need to be asking people to join, if they were the ones that asked him to make the new one? And why would they come back to the old LS to keep Sioux "company" if they were all in on the decision to move everyone, save Sioux, to to the new one?

Bah, I don't wanna know don't tell me LOL. In the end, it just means Sioux better off without them and in a different LS. I'm sure the people were nice, but that's just not a very nice position to put someone in.

My suggestion. Start breaking some pearls of those you don't want to be able to come back to your linkshell. Then start recruiting for your linkshell again.

If people don't want to be someplace don't try to make em stay, not that you were, but don't even ask if they want to stay.

Send a tell to Devilsluck, Sheeba, or Zyrene if you are still linkshell searching, SoonerNation can always use a good person.

Good luck, and remember, it isn't your fault you were abandoned.

Well Sioux its good to know you have nothing against me, I got scared for a minute there. I really didn't want that to happen at all. But as everyone else has stated the drama really isn't worth it. In all a new LS was started mainly from my old LS and Q was nominated leader. As to his recruiting from your LS I don't know much about it just what others have told me (which amounts for the confusion here and conflicting stories). But I do know that you are a great member and no matter what LS you choose you will fit in well there. I also believe that recruiting new members could turn out to be a great idea because your LS has created a great name for itself. Good luck and I'm sorry for all of this that happened.

The problem with this whole situation is that the members of the LS were the reason for the great name. Not to sound pretentious (I suppose it's unavoidable saying this) but membership was very selective. It was a very small, very tight knit, and very fun LS to be in. Recruiting new members was never a big priority: if we found somebody we thought was astonishingly cool (like the Chibikaiser, for instance, or the narcoleptic-yet-mighty Hitokiribatousi), we tossed a pearl their way.

"Recruitment" will be a slow process. It doesn't need to be said, but KoR is still there for those of you who helped make it what it was (and what it still is. Took me a while to really see that, and I think I missed out on a lot of great things by leaving when I did).

Hey Sioux next time i see you ill give a /tell, you can join our ranks it sounds like our is much like yours is called ForgottenDream!!!, happens a lot, I have seen the birth and deaths of many LSs in my time on bismarck.

Things like this happen and you realise who your true friends are.



I understand what you must be going through. You must feel so alone and neglected and I'm sorry everyone left you like that. ; ; It sounds to me like this Q guy needs to find himself or something and get his head in the right place...