Lets take back our server.Follow

I want to be able to see this game for what it is, a game. I mean, I rember atari 2600. My thumb would hurt so much from playing on a ancient controler, but to flip the score bar from all 9's back to 0 on asteroids, was sompthing back in the day.

Id like to think I've played all the games worth playing since the infant years of gameing. Playing games is my hoby, hell till this came out I made $$ playing MTG.

I Play games for 2 reasons: (no not for fun XP )

1: I'm good.
2: most of my friends play

In stead of:
smokeing crack, killing, stealing ur newspaper... etc..

Geting to my point....

With all games Ive played, life included.... what gets clasified as wrong..... smokeing crack, killing, stealing ur newspaper... etc.. CHEETING..... which is really the bottom line of the subject at hand. Yes I'm one of those that would flame u if u had to use a game shark to beat any game. How is that fun, why bother playing at all? So really, I'm not so mad with the gilfarmers/to sell players, as I am at the ones buying the gill. They create the demand, they are the problem. No buyers no $$farmers. I hope this can become the new focus of bolth sides frustration. It may not effect u yet but, I gurante it will. $$Farmers will contine to thrive, unless we figure out a way to counter act them.

Want to know why JP's dont care...

1: This is thier game. They know the tricks that get them the $$ they need. Granted an origonal NA pc player Im sure is'nt too threatned.

2:They work together... NA LS = small.... JP LS = HUGE..... I beg every one of u that leads a LS, find other LS ur LS is friends with, and vote a new name and a curent leader, divide up the cost of a new LS and bam biger LS. It is in all of our best intrest to work as a team. It wont happen over night but a stronger LS can be made. Leaders need to people that can handel being the "@$$ hole" by cuting counter productive people. Flame and ridicule all that u know buy gil. Post in the server forms let your server know, and no one help them. And yes I have shun people that were friends, but they are undermineing the system. Don't you wonder why u cant use a game hack device. On line game... NO CHEETING... WORK TOGETHER... THATS THE REAL POINT OF THE GAME....

As for me, I pay to post here, as do u I hope. Encourage all u know to at least come here, become educated on the game ur playing. We have server forums that we need to make sure we use as much for uniteing the people our servers. And we need to use this main bord for things other than crap. Stop holding your uber $$ tricks or what ever secrets u have.

I rember the good old days when we posted on mesage bords to brag strats and tricks. Now were all fighting tooth and nail and the progress is minimal.

So at the moment for those that actually care, about playing this game, and stoping a pre mature death of a great game.

Its time for solutions. Complaining gets us no where.

And seriously, start another thread to flame this one.

Its time for solutions. Complaining gets us no where.

/em applauds great post jenna, something everybody should take some time off to read... instead of worrying bout being leet and all super uber cool all the time, competing with everyone. take some time off from your nm camping, or farming to help someone out, you never know when you may need them... bad juu juu and that that good stuff :p

Wow, That sucks I had a giant post typed up and I accidentally hit escape. Let's try to get what I had down back here. :o

I myself am a seasoned NA player, I've been playing since November. And what about those people that don't like a giant LS? Hm? I'm one of those people.


Work>Time>Gil. I farm alone, I camp NM's with a friend, or two. Everyone that isn't a Thief spends the same amount of time farming, that is if you farm. Those who camp NM's you rely on luck, hope, and knowing the spawn rate, and sometime skill. :o
There are no real TRICKS to gil making. It's all about time.

And on to another note, Let's take back OUR server? By Our I suppose you mean NA as US, or OUR. And, Going with that assumption it's not OUR sever, It's everyone's server. JP's NA's the server belongs to us all. We all pay for the game and pay to play. So, It's everyones server. So, Try not to be so arrogant as to name a thread lets take back our server.


And if that's not what you meant, I apologize for anything in this post that has/would've offended you.


This post has been brought to you by Zariko, The Elvaan with Attitude.

Lunarians ring a bell?

I myself love my LS. It's small, but not to the point of 4-5 people on at a time. We aren't caught up in this, "I gained a few levels now I'm done with this LS that can't help me." crap. Our level range is 20-65, and we're all people who will give up exp to help another person. (as we've showed with AF coffer keys >.>) Our LS is also "n00b free" We all speak in english, we don't speak, "u r dum, y r u h8 me?!?" I really don't think I can handle someone like that in my LS that's been around since early January.

So, in my opinion, I really wouldn't like a super large LS. ; ;

high end, numerous NA LS include: ArchDominus, IRON, Averyl and Lunarians ( Beautiful Reel used to ber in there, but i think they broke up and I might be missing some in the list )

Its not pointless to try to make massive LS.. But as was stated...Americans value individuallity, and lack of conformisim.

Its that mentallity, that causes the ordeal of attempting to organize, and move 20+ people at the same time, utterly catostrophic.

Problem is, for better or worse, alot of English speakers do build alot of themselves into the game. Managing many multiple mentallities is an extreme chore.

What draws people into Most LS is the laid back enviroment, one that makes them feel a sense of family. But just like any family.. the bigger it is, the harder it is to hold together.


Militiristic recruitment, doesnt draw as many people in, until they wanna get something out of it, and on the down side, causes people to leave once they have what they want.
I mean who really wants to pay money to be bossed around after theyve left their job for the day , where they spend their time getting bossed around.

Luckily , XI, does in some small order, break away from these 2 dynamics, with the ability to freely switch between shells. problem that arrises from this, It can also lead to jealous, and also in turn end in destroying Linkshells. " So and So is pulling double LS duty.. isnt that a conflict of intrest" ect ect ect.

I dont really have a solution beyond this, But at least adressing the pitfalls might in turn give a realistic perspective of what it will take to create such a balance for such an entity to exist.

Lunarians are still together, one of the members of our shell is in that one as well, he's always busy doing HNM's and Dynamis.

First off, ty for the positive info and attitude, really I was expecting to get flamed to hell for this one.


2nd... We need solutions. No room for debate here, if you are a honest player. gil farming of all kinds is puting the ah into over drive. Fire crystals are up to 3k a stack again... on a wendsday... Light c's 11-12k again... I can keep going...

One thing Ive tried since my post is, I found some noobs, made them brass flower pots, had farmed alot of grain seeds and told them to feed either dark or water c's. Helps new players get a income going and hopeing more people will do the same. if we can saturate the ah with crystals it should help to keep prics down. Think is every noob was growing crystals. Then as the $$ is not enough for them they move on, pass the pots on to another noob.

And TYVM Boobookitty. Id like to consider my self to be a proud new member of her LS. She has only been pleasnt and helpfull. She spent her night protecting LS members while they leveled. Im sure a LV 75 whm could find better things to do... Oh, wait.... helping people is a great thing. /cheer boobookitty

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No this is not my, or yours, or anyones server..... But Ill be damned if I sit by and watch gil farmers destroy "our" server. If you dont care, f'n quit now!!!! I dont want to be involved with people with a IDGAS attitude. Why bother wasteing your time here. Save your $12 a month + the $$ you'll spend buying gill, for your refill of stupid pills.

Coming from a lv 30 mithra whm/gimp lv sub, I fail to see how u feel u know anything about this game. I have 2 characters at lv 52, and I still feel like I dont know crap. But I gurantee I can make more $$ in a day than what your lv 30 gear costs. Know what ur talking about Noxx, before you start flameing. I gurantee you will feel the effect of gil farmers some time, we'll be happy to have you when your tune changes.

I dont know about the rest of the winers on "our" server, but I want to be surrounded by winers, not loosers.
I agree too many talk, then walk when they get what they want, this thread is not for them either.
Who wouldnt love is this was platform only and we didnt have to be bothered by those that want to destroy.... But we do... and if u have no intent on helping......

GTF OFF "OUR" SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!

I hear ever quest still has a pulse, go put the final nail in that coffin.

If you fall in the catagory of cheeter, I want nothing to do with you.

Only those that feel the same, and have solutions, need apply here.

If I come of as a jerk, sry I do things the hard way, the way the game designers intended us to do. Plug your game shark in and see how far you get.

P.S. TY all for the /tell hate mail. I see you read it here, but wont post here. Some how /telling me about how retarted I am really proves your point well. If your so right start a thread, list the benefits of cheeting the system, and lets see your rateing after. Btw I have plenty of B-list room left for your kind.

Please positive posts. I dont want to waste time here.

Great post ^^

Although I am a proud hardcore gamer myself, I admit to using Game Genie to beat Little Nemo: The Dream Master back when I was like 11. The last few levels were WAY too hard... Ridiculous...

The only game I actually searched for some kinda cheat was Ghosts and Goblins on SNES or NES, cannot recall which one. Don't recall exactly but the level where you had to jump from ledge to ledge alongside of this castle where bats would randomly fly into you, just WAY too hard.

Of course, it was one of those games that when you got hit, you flew back like 5 ft. and into an abyss, as opposed to some games where you got hit but just took dmg and kept going. I hate you Ghosts and Goblins!!! (or was it Ghouls and Goblins...hmmm...)

i agree 100%

if the lazy *** bums who buy the gil stop purchasing it - and acually go out and Farm/Camp/Fish/Synth like the majority of us all do; It'd kill their bussiness. meaning less inflation - and people wouldn't be gimped at level 1-20. i mean, Bismarck's gotten to the point it's costing a freaking Grand for the BASIC bronze Harness! why would people pay that?!


and as for the Feeding - Get an acuall job, it's not like it's that hard. join the forces (yes, Korea has them to) send your kids into work.

yes, they're a third world country, but still. (at the risk of sounding extremely absorbed into this game)

so i still stick with the

(|Death|) (|You can have this|)

for all the farmers

Edited, Thu Sep 2 18:24:21 2004 by Naeo

Edited, Thu Sep 2 18:25:56 2004 by Naeo

First let me say that I don't buy gil - don't see much point in it really. However, it really annoys me that people think of gil buyers as "lazy". Now, unless you've got someone else paying for this gil, you worked to earn the REAL money required to pay for the gil. How is this being lazy? You're working at whatever job you do to pay for this gil.