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#1 Aug 20 2004 at 4:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Just wondering if anyone else is getting uber-fast with their /blist add somerandomnewb. I know I am, and it makes me sad to have to do it.

For those of you living under a rock, I mean new trend of people starting up casinos in town using the in-game /random as a way of betting. (Or something like that...I don't pay attention anymore.) I personally find it annoying and blist every one of them as soon as their shout pops up on my screen.
#2 Aug 20 2004 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah.. Casino shout spammers were the first people on my blacklist, starting just a couple days ago. Most of the people running the casino's have these gaudy macro's up to 8 lines long. It's nice they let you filter just the idiots out.

I've also started to blacklist the people that shout teleport service advertisements. Not all of them, just the ones that use their macro every 15-20 seconds or add lines about 'In-Flight Movies' and things of that nature. I know they're just trying to make money, but really i don't want to have to read all that crap to find a shout I actually care about.
#3 Aug 20 2004 at 6:08 AM Rating: Default
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What's worse than Casino spam is when someone wins big, and the House can't pay up.

Hiptaru was in San D'oria a few days ago. Hit the jackpot, only to find the guy couldn't cough up the dough. The zone was filled with shout commands demanding payment or insulting the Casino owner and a whole lot of /slap. And Hiptaru wasn't the only one! They had a whole team gangin' up on the guy... I almost felt bad for him : (

But meh, I guess it IS his own fault.
#4 Aug 20 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
It was the guy's fault for not having the money to pay up, and yeah he needed to know NOT to do that. But good lord, there are MANY other ways of doing it that don't involve spamming ME! Ah well, it just landed hiptaru and the rest of the spammers on my /blist and good riddance.

Oh and I'm pretty certain someone gave the guy the 10k to pay Hiptaru just to shut him up.
#5 Aug 20 2004 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Is there actually anything that can be done about this? I've heard it argued that it's against the TOS. I need to poke around that agreement and see if it's there... I need something to do at work.
#6 Aug 20 2004 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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please do, it's driving me nuts :/

If I blacklist one casino guy, another one pops up...I'm much too lazy to blacklist all those people.

And...just wondering...why the hell did so many crop up just this week? It wasn't this bad two weeks ago.
#7 Aug 20 2004 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
When a new trend starts, expect the sheep to flock. That's all I can say...
#8 Aug 20 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Is there any way to turn off the "DICE ROLL!" messages?
#9 Aug 20 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Default
Meh, Hiptaru should have enough gil now >< Yesterday I played one casino game with some random guy in port and won 15K. Then later at night right before I log, and friend and I see Hiptaru's shout and decide to go give it a shot. I go up to him feeling a little brave and bet 20k... Dice rolls and I won again^^ . Then my friend goes and bets 5k and loses ><. I gotta tell you after wining twice in this game I was feeling pretty good and decide to play Hiptaru's game again. This time I bet 30k... dices rolls and I lose, argh. At this point I feel like I broke even and wanna play again to leave with something extra... So I play that evil taru's game again, wtf was I thinking.. I should have just left then, but I didn't. I place a bet this time of 40k and guess what happened? Ohhh noooz I lost ><. Determined to get my gil back I play yet again like the fool I am. I dunno what exactly was going through my head at this point, maybe it was late, maybe I'm just stupid, i figured I couldn't lose 3 times in a row?? But wanted my gil back. The bet this time 100k O.o; Dices rolls ................. 33 WTF aaarrggghhh! Never, I mean never again am I gonna gamble ; ; that was suppose to be my Water4 gil. Hehe oh and hi I'm new to these forums^^, I'm normally over at ffxionline forums but I saw this topic and just had to reply.

Edited, Fri Aug 20 15:41:24 2004 by LonewolfyBismarck
#10 Aug 20 2004 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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/cry

Please do the math... odds are in their favor, in the long run, so ANYONE who goes, even the people who just go to get lucky once, are supporting a leech, someone who's getting gil for nothing.

Hiptaru was the first I /blisted for casino spam, he's done it in every city, and it *HURTS* to see people supporting him. All I can say is that he'll never see me in a party, and maybe that will matter at some point.
#11 Aug 20 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I use 2 computers when I'm playing, one for a fisherman (not a bot!) and one for Tweed, the fisherman is in Bastok leveling atm and it has got to be the worst place EVER that I have ever been in the game. The casinos pop up ever night and I blist them all, and they keep coming!

And the wrost error message ever:
/blist add <insertcasinomofo>
Cannot perform this command while fishing.

Arg.

-Tweed
#12 Aug 20 2004 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe it's just me, but seeing casino spam really isn't that bad for me. It's annoying, yes. But just don't let it bother you. It's all mental, see... if everyone says its really bad then spam is just gonna **** you off even more.

By the way Tweedius, your icon is my LiveJournal icon : ) Not that anything changes now... just wanted to mention that ><
#13 Aug 21 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I must say... Casinos are spreading! It was always just something you randomly saw before....but now there are two or three people in every zone by Jeuno shouting ...it is getting out of control!!!

I even had someone ask me to place bets in Qufim the other day and couldn't understand why I said no!

If you look at the odds these people are setting up....most of them are a total rip off anyway!!! They are just out there to make money by shouting so don't fall for it!!! It is a total scam! And yes there are ways to break their little system just keep doubling your bet until you win....but then they have limits on what you can bet so if you have really bad luck...you are out a ton of gil and if they see how you are betting they will probably just say something like "casino closed now"!!! If nobody plays maybe they will go away........
#14 Aug 21 2004 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm getting sick of these too, i've seen them in sandy and bastok >< i havent blisted anyone yet though because i rarely b-list people anyway.

but when i see the 7+ line macro i just wish i could whack them on the head with my new hammer and tell them to go away. I really hope this trend will die down fast.
#15 Aug 21 2004 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
>_> i'm sorry to break the news people....
but the chain of leeching sucm bags (otherwise known as casino makers) have made the once beatiful town of windy there home....

:(

we need to do something and we need to do it now..if we let it get bigger and bigger and bigger till its goign to be

"come to ***'mic'nuggets valkum chain of his overly used casinos!!!!!"

"1-998 you give me your gil,, 0 and 999 and i'll split it even!!!"

"i'm at the outpost!!!!hurry before i get anymore annoying!!!!"

there has to be something we can do..isn't there?

if any one has any ideas my link would be happy ot help
plz tell Misskitty..thx

GOD HELP US ALL
#16 Aug 21 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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heres an idea
NO ONE GO TO THE CASINOS
if you are reading this, and are tired of casino spam,
just tell everyone you know not to go to the casinos
then the casino people will get no business
and they will go away
^^
#17 Aug 21 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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No, even if you tell all your friends, and your friends tell all their friends, and they tell their dogs, cats, and moms, people will still bet.

Why? Because people are dumb.

The best thing to do is figure out if it's against TOS and GM them all.
#18 Aug 21 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone seriously set up a casino tonight at Hoo Mjuu's spawn point. I wish i was kidding. /sigh This has got to stop.
#19 Aug 21 2004 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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They do it on the airships too now, and at outposts. I'm seriously considering leaving my shout filter on permanantly (I'm so sure I spelled that wrong ><) now thanks to these people.
#20 Aug 21 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I am pretty sure this has been covered before but I'll restate what I have already seen posted.

It is not against the TOS to run a Casino in the game. It is not against the TOS to bet gil within the game. It is against the TOS to place bets outside the game in refrence to game results.

For example it's against the TOS to make a bet of say..$20 that you can fish more moat carp in an hour than your friend.

It is however not against the TOS to bet your friend 20gil that you can fish more moat carp in an hour.

The only way you may be able to do something by complaining about the spam. However I think the GM would be more inclined to tell you to use the in game tools you are given to remove it..i.e. blist the person.
#21 Aug 21 2004 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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You guys wana hear something really funny... I did not notice there were casinos... lol... dead serious! until i read this post I would not have ever noticed. I did notice people doing /random alot when I go to the cities, but luckily i just ignored it, walked to my house, walked to the AH, then left for the dunes to level sam... I actually had to go tonite to Bastok to see what all this casino complaining was about... when i get there all i see is people doing /random... so i sit there for about 10 mins trying to see what everyone was complaining about... then i realized something... i cut my shout filter on last month and never cut it back on... long story short... annoying shouts dont bother those that cant hear them...

Dwyrin: 30 Warrior, 15 Redmage, 12 Samurai, 10 Ninja, 10 Bard

Also... off topic... If you have a leather belt +1 or a uchigatana +1 please let me know... im interested in buying both items...thank you!
#22 Aug 22 2004 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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the casino deal is getting out of hand indeed
just out of curioity, am I the only one who has gotten a random /tell asking to participate in the Casino? it's happened a few times...I say "No thank you" they persist...and after a few more /tells you get curious if the best response would be "Just f*** off...please?" -_-
ahh well, they're giving away free boomerangs for a limited time only!! (no I'm not participating in it, but I'm not kidding...it's like it's their new sales pitch or something)
So far I've seen them pollute:
Sandy
Bastok
Jeuno
Pashhow (!!)
and yeah that's it I think...let me know if you've got any other areas...I'm curious how bad this is getting =/
#23 Aug 22 2004 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah i ran into one at the Bomingo Round in windy. (It was my fault to begin with i just want to make sure no one else falls in this pit of a scam like i did because it seems like it will pay off but in reality it doesn't.) I bet 500 gil and I won then i bet 1k and won so i started with 3k (which isn't much compared to others) and got 4.5k (which still isn't much) then i wa slike ok i want 5k so i bet 1k and lost did it again lost kept doing it til i had 20gil remaining. The guys was like Don't waste my time with small bets. At first he said max bet is 2k then i won like 4 times in a row and then he changed it to 1k max bet.Then when i got down to 20 gil he was like i need to make it minimum bet 500 gil i was like wtf? And yes I have a gambling addiction yes i do. i will be the firs tone to admit it. But I learned my lesson I ended up with about little over 1k after the whole ordeal. But yeah I agree that these should be banned but as long as people like me give in and play they will be there. So from this point on i will never gamble in Vanadiel again. And I hope others just like me will do the same to stop people from running this scam business. I was also shocked to learn tha tpeople actually sponsor these casinos. Oh and about Hiptaru, I was camping Lizzy and he was running his casino at the Fumaroles so what me and a couple others did was ok he was doing a little auction so we were messing with him and he got uber annoyed like i told him I would give him boots for this prize and he assumed it was leaping boots and I told him I never said which boots. I just liked messing with him that is what he gets for trying to scam people.

Edited, Sun Aug 22 03:08:42 2004 by Magvius

Edited, Sun Aug 22 03:11:01 2004 by Magvius

Edited, Sun Aug 22 03:11:41 2004 by Magvius
#24 Aug 22 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
gambling is legal....i had a chat with a Gm last night and he told me so.

i was really disapointed, i was hoping a whole army of Gms would just come and kick there butts to hell....

:( i guess just Blist everyone of them....

last night in windy some one was running something and alot of
people where shouting about it...one of the casinos winners was shouting that he just won 1k from that satan spawn

and alot of people where saying "i just won 10k from farming silk threads!!!"

and the owner said " look at all the peole winning at my ccasino, the odds are with you people!!!"

1) if i just lost 5k for being stupid and buying the scam i wouldn't be shouting about it!

2) if the odds are with us isn't that like giving away your money? i don't think i would be standing around giving money away if i was mean enough to shout and annoy people.

these casino owners are sly and clever , but one thing there not is smart....i find the easiest way to trick them into telling the whole city about there scam is to ask them " how much money did you make today?" its the easyiest! if they don't respond keep asking and if they still don't expose them for that!

trap them in their own worlds..turn it around and expose them!

it may be legal and alot of people are stupid but if some casino owner says i made 500K today i just ask where did you get that money from
"um..people losing"
"so i guess that alot of people where losing if your max bet is 5k"
"...."
"thats like 1,000 people lost at your casino"
"....."
" so just sit there all day and wait for people to lose?"
"......"

Knowledge and witt is your freind people!!!!
USE IT!!
#25 Aug 22 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there a way to maybe band together and vote these casinos out of the cities? And say u can't do it in the vicinity of any city but they can do it outsid eof cities? Just wondering.
#26 Aug 22 2004 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm sorry to break the news people....
but the chain of leeching sucm bags (otherwise known as casino makers) have made the once beatiful town of windy there home....



Oh rubbish! They are providing a service to their patrons - entertainment! If they are leeching scumbags, then so is SE!
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