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That is waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beond excessive. You will want to never load that as an avatar. Ever.

It looks solid to me, but I keep getting distracted and forgetting what I want to point out...

It would be nice if there was some form of disclaimer about questions, such as
Please make sure to search the forum before asking your question, since often the same question has been asked within the past few days and is still on the first or second page. Also, if a forum has stickies, please make sure to read them.

also, with the adding a I agree and have read this to the sign up thing, some forums, I've noticed, add a timer to their sign up. would it be possible for there to be like a small thing that says You've only been on this page 5 seconds, can you really read that fast?



do the ones that should be removed include ****? Its just an annoying filter that is overly obvious

No, no, hell no.

Mostly because yes, I really can read that fast.

Do share.

On a more serious note, I went through the rules again and it really does look solid. Nice work.

You need SOME kind of rule as to WHY you can rate a post, and if one is found to be abusing the Rate-System, they lose their Rate-Privledges for a month.

There are people who rate stuff down on the sole reason they don't like who posted it, even if the post itself is perfectly fine. I could, if I wanted to, go through my post history and name COUNTLESS times that I posted Truthful Factual information worded non-biased, and not a single thing offensive and it was Karma-bombed.

That kinda crap needs to be dealt with. Some people can't even post what they think, because it will get Karma-bombed, even though it is *true*.

I think we should just get rid of the rating system entirely, but it doesn't seem like Allakhazam is willing to do that, even though the Rating System gets abused daily, and most of the posters I've seen or talked to regard the system as a total joke. If it is a total joke, then why even have it?

But at the very least, could we please have rules and guidelines as to _why_ one is permitted to rate a post? Rating down perfectly good truthful well-written information just because one doesn't like the poster is just stupid and it needs to stop.

Ok, so I should actually be ok to continue business as usual. Idiots can be smacked down, people who make innocent mistakes can't. I can live with this.



Also, I agree with what Jinte said in regards to Zariamnk's points.

Again, the karma system rules was a section where there was some debte on what should and should not be included. We chose to focus less on content of posts that prompted rateing, and more on quantity and history of rateings. You are NOT being karma camped. There are about 40 people at various times in recent history that for whatever reason chose to rate you down. You should however probably stop karma camping flixeffect.

Hmm. I would probably rewrite that to:
Allakhazam has various running gags and memes that you probably should find offensive even if you don't understand them. Please start complaining and rating down this "offensive" post.

but that's just me.

1 down, 13 to go.

Then maybe I can post in =10 again.

Edited, May 1st 2008 10:01am by FlixEffect

What possible purpose would serve Kao to not tell you the truth about whether or not someone was camping you?

There's always an exception to a rule, can this be one?

I did a quick scan of the rulebook, and have a few thoughts regarding Karma, Ratebots, and Sockpuppets.

We've gone round-and-round about the whole Karma system before. You and other admins know my position about dropping it entirely and I have no intention on elaborating farther on this thread. I would, however, like to see an option for posters to see the names of people who rate them up/down. I ask for this knowing the potential for abuse that can arise from such an option--retaliatory PM harassment, rate wars, etc.

I would like to think, however, this addition would allow posters to help admins ferret out karma campers (and I won't hold myself unaccountable for going after those who, in my opinion, spout rubbish or repeatedly put people down to boost their own inflated egos) who can't seem to agree to disagree with anyone who doesn't have the same opinion as them or who don't subscribe to the talking points of a different forum.

On ratebots, I'm no techno-wizard so I cannot tell which posters are using scripts or just colluding with each other to inflate each other's ratings and attempt to kill off outsiders (i.e. those who haven't drunken the proverbial Kool-Aid). It might be useful to keep some IP records not only of those who are notorious for using forms of ratebots, but of those who seemingly work in concert to attack other posters/inflate each other's ratings.

As far as sockpuppets go, nothing short of banning a user's IP address will solve this problem. In the case of some broadband users, even that can be a wild goose chase since, depending on the cable company/ISP, IP addresses can be dynamic.

Edited, May 1st 2008 1:25pm by AriesSeventyThree

Blastphemy.